Bruffalo Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I know people are gonna joke here, but I don't want a DC in the division who knows Allen that well and can tell McDaniels about what he expects McDermott to do. 12 1 16 1 1 Quote
Whkfc Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Can they roll over anymore than they already do when the pressure is on? 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Yeah he TOTALLY left Buffalo of his own free will. 1 9 Quote
Steptide Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I think fraiser takes alot of unnecessary flack. I know he was super frustrating at times, but the outcome this year was no different without him 9 5 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted January 29 Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I know people are gonna joke here, but I don't want a DC in the division who knows Allen that well and can tell McDaniels about what he expects McDermott to do. Has anyone been able to stop Josh other than himself? When Josh has a bad game, it's rarely, if ever, because of the opponent's DC. 1 4 4 Quote
Back2Buff Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Steptide said: I think fraiser takes alot of unnecessary flack. I know he was super frustrating at times, but the outcome this year was no different without him I dont think we make the playoffs if Frazier is the DC. The D was more aggressive this year which lead to turnovers that won us games, when the offense left the D for dead. 3 1 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Didn’t Fangio run a 3-4 whereas Frazier’s defense is more of a 4-3? Quote
Einstein Posted January 29 Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: The D was more aggressive this year which lead to turnovers Just fyi. We averaged 30 turnovers forced under Frazier in 2021 and 27 in 2022. We had 30 turnovers this season. 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted January 29 Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Has anyone been able to stop Josh other than himself? When Josh has a bad game, it's rarely, if ever, because of the opponent's DC. The Giants game. The Jets more so than anyone else, but you do have a point. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 29 Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Didn’t Fangio run a 3-4 whereas Frazier’s defense is more of a 4-3? Yes. Leslie is a good coach though. He'd be a good hire for Miami. And their personnel is pretty transferrable for the most part. 2 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yes. Leslie is a good coach though. He'd be a good hire for Miami. And their personnel is pretty transferrable for the most part. Wonder how that will help a guy like Chubb who shined in the OLB role. Quote
eball Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Frazier’s a good man and solid DC. That doesn’t mean we should be “concerned” if he goes to Miami. And by the way…as accurately stated by many of us, Leslie’s “year off” was the softest firing ever. 1 Quote
Process Posted January 29 Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah he TOTALLY left Buffalo of his own free will. I don't see how this disproves that theory? Who knows what happened. 1 Quote
Logic Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I get that the funny and popular thing to do amongst many Bills fans is to poke fun at Leslie Frazier or act as if he isn't/wasn't a good DC. While he certainly wasn't perfect and his basic defenses and lack of disguise sometimes frustrated me, let's look at the facts: Buffalo Bills ranking in points per game allowed by year under Leslie Frazier: 2019: 2nd 2020: 14th 2021: 1st 2022: 4th Now, the Bills defense did finish 4th in points per game allowed this year, indicating that Frazier shouldn't garner all the praise for the defensive success with this roster. On the flip side, the blame that gets thrown Frazier's way for the defense turning to paper tigers once the playoffs hit, well...guess what? That happened again this year (and yes, obviously the injuries played a part). Bottom line: Leslie Frazier is one of the best and most respected teachers, leaders, and defensive minds in the NFL for a reason. I won't lose any sleep if he becomes the Dolphins' defensive coordinator, but I certainly won't be chuckling or praying for it to happen, either. 8 5 2 Quote
Steptide Posted January 29 Posted January 29 16 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I dont think we make the playoffs if Frazier is the DC. The D was more aggressive this year which lead to turnovers that won us games, when the offense left the D for dead. Ya I definitely think McDermott got the most out of this defense possible, and most likely McDermott is probably a better DC than Fraizer Quote
Eastport bills Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Sounds like a move that weakens Miami after having Fangio, who was hamstrung by injuries. Frazier a good coach but he was too bend don’t break for my taste and never brought extra pressure, wanting extra DBs. If you have a dominant front that’s fine, but good QBs carve you up with time to operate. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 29 Posted January 29 They also interviewed Babs. WE SEE WHAT YOUR DOING MCDANIELS! 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 29 Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, Process said: I don't see how this disproves that theory? Who knows what happened. The theory was that Frazier was done being a DC and would only accept a HC job. The whole taking a year off thing was just code for fired-without-having-the-label-of-fired IMO. Aka, McDermott has such respect for Frazier that he allowed him to leave gracefully. 1 Quote
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