So we're moving on from Harbaugh right?

[MikePJ76]

Harbaugh watched a video of his star running back beating up his gf in an elevator and did nothing about it.  He shouldn't be in the league.

 

Both Harbaugh's are awful.  I hope the chargers fail miserably.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

The Steelers are in a different league when it comes to head coaches. They simply don't fire them.

 

Since 1969

 

Chuck Knoll - 1969 - 1991

Bill Cowher   - 1992 - 2006

Mike Tomlin - 2007 - present

 

Only 3 head coaches in the last 55 years. 

 

yet in 44 of those years, 2 SB's (3 years apart with essentially the same roster, 2 HC's).

 

Since Tomlin took over a SB roster, and other than a few years when AB and Bell were together, the Steelers Offenses suck.  At some point, that puts you in a rut, as they have been in for years.   That team needs a fresh start. 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

yet in 44 of those years, 2 SB's (3 years apart with essentially the same roster, 2 HC's).

 

Since Tomlin took over a SB roster, and other than a few years when AB and Bell were together, the Steelers Offenses suck.  At some point, that puts you in a rut, as they have been in for years.   That team needs a fresh start. 

 

Over the 55 years. 8 Super Bowl appearances with 6 championships. Steelers fans have no right to complain. I would love it if the Bills could have half of that.

[Mr. WEO]

7 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Over the 55 years. 8 Super Bowl appearances with 6 championships. Steelers fans have no right to complain. I would love it if the Bills could have half of that.

 

true but the topic was how long the Steelers keep their coaches.  4 of those 6 SB wins were 45+ years ago. None in 16 years.  

 

They are stuck in second gear for many years now because of this philosophy of not changing HC because of "no losing seasons"

[Einstein]

40 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

The Bills lost to the chiefs who lost to the bengals who lost to the rams.  It's so silly that people think the Bills were guaranteed the super bowl there.

 

I have ZERO doubt in my mind that the Bills go to the Super Bowl if they win in the 13 seconds game.

 

That was a much more flawed Bengals team than the one we lost to the next year and it took a comedy of errors on the Chiefs to lose that AFCCG to them. Chiefs were up by 3 scores at one point (if I remember correctly). If they just kick the field goal before halftime (instead of going for the endzone), they likely win.

 

That and the Bills were on absolute fire that postseason.

 

 

 

[Billsatlastin2018]

12 hours ago, section122 said:

Or does a super bowl 11 years ago followed by a single afc title game appearance this year carry that much water? 

Ask me, AFTER McClapper hoists the Lombardi!

 

We’ll all be waiting… forever.

12 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Would Sean McDermott have purposely had his player take a penalty at the end of the game when it was first and five, in order to re set the downs and allow his two time outs left to be used to it's fullest extent?

 

The answer is no 

 

Harbaugh is the best coach in the NFL currently 

After watching since 1963, cannot EVER recall a player doing that. Thought it was beyond brilliant. A little too strong perhaps, but still brilliant.

 

McClapper woulda waited for the First Down and THEN called his useless TOs!

[Bob Jones]

12 hours ago, bobobonators said:

Dan Campbell should go too. His game and clock mismanagement cost the Lions two wins off the top of my head. 
 

In fact, any HC that does not make the SB within 5yrs should be fired. You play to win the game. 

Are you Herm Edwards using a burner account? 🤔😂

[Jauronimo]

13 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Allen >>>>> Jackson

 

End of thread.

"How is Allen better than 2x League MVP Lamar Jackson?" he asked sarcastically.

Edited January 29 by Jauronimo

[Freddie's Dead]

It's hard to say since I don't watch every Ravens game like I do every Bills game.  I don't know if Harbaugh cost his team an AFCCG appearance by giving up 45 yards on two plays to allow a tieing FG in 13 seconds.  I don't know if Harbaugh blew a TO challenging a 9 yard pass completion on first down in a 4th quarter where the TO was worth way more than the 9 yards.  I don't know if Harbaugh had 12 men on the field when the opposing kicker missed the GW FG, only to win the game on the rekick after the penalty.

 

There are a million stories in the Naked Sideline.  This has been just a few of them.

[DCofNC]

4 hours ago, section122 said:

 

The Bills lost to the chiefs who lost to the bengals who lost to the rams.  It's so silly that people think the Bills were guaranteed the super bowl there.

 

 

 

Thank you! Reid is one of the greatest coaches of all time and mahomes is one of the greatest qbs of all time but only when other teams lose to them.  

 

 

Quite the opposite.  I actually don't think Harbaugh should be fired.  I also don't think McD should be fired. 

 

The entire point of this post is the double standard the fire mcd crowd have for other coaches.

 

People want to pretend winning 1 sb no matter how long ago would be okay but I don't think that's true.  Harbaugh has a long streak of not being nearly as succesful as McD.

How do you view Harbaugh as being not as successful as McD?  He has literally made it further than McD ever has, just this year, without having Josh Allen.  He has to cater an entire team around Jackson’s limitations.  I don’t agree with Baltimore’s talent evaluation, but he has failed in the playoffs the same as McD, but he’s also proven he CAN win the big one, which McD never has.

[Thrivefourfive]

Problem with Harbaugh is he’s tied to the one dimensional Jackson — the easiest super star in sports to defend.

[section122]

Just head this stat on gmfb that I wanted to share and remembered this topic:

 

The Ravens just suffered their 8th loss when leading in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter since the start of 2022. Imagine if the Bills lost to the 1-6 Browns with Jameis Winston as their qb yesterday! 

 

This thread was originally made tongue in cheek to the McD haters and I thought this was a good time to circle back.  Just some food for thought as many people think he is a great coach (he is) and McD deserves to be fired (he doesn't).

[FireChans]

12 minutes ago, section122 said:

Just head this stat on gmfb that I wanted to share and remembered this topic:

 

The Ravens just suffered their 8th loss when leading in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter since the start of 2022. Imagine if the Bills lost to the 1-6 Browns with Jameis Winston as their qb yesterday! 

 

This thread was originally made tongue in cheek to the McD haters and I thought this was a good time to circle back.  Just some food for thought as many people think he is a great coach (he is) and McD deserves to be fired (he doesn't).

I have consistently argued that McD is in the tier of Harbaugh/Tomlin, very good coaches but not elite.

 

Somehow those franchises stick with those guys because they won Super Bowls when Obama was President. I think both would be gone if that wasn’t the case, but franchises are silly.

[Sojourner]

15 minutes ago, section122 said:

Just head this stat on gmfb that I wanted to share and remembered this topic:

 

The Ravens just suffered their 8th loss when leading in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter since the start of 2022. Imagine if the Bills lost to the 1-6 Browns with Jameis Winston as their qb yesterday! 

 

This thread was originally made tongue in cheek to the McD haters and I thought this was a good time to circle back.  Just some food for thought as many people think he is a great coach (he is) and McD deserves to be fired (he doesn't).

There would be an absolute meltdown. Rightly so. 
 

However, Winston and the Browns played just as good as Baltimore. 
 

Fitting that the day started and ended with a turnover on downs for the Ravens. 
 

The first one was awful. A direct snap to Henry in wildcat when you have a yard is criminal. Just practice him under center and execute of game day. 6’3”, 250lbs. Come on lol

[DC Greg]

On 1/28/2024 at 10:16 PM, HappyDays said:

Allen >>>>> Jackson

 

End of thread.

This. Allen is a top 2 QB. Look, McD is a good to very good defensive coordinator for the most part. He has consistently schemed up a good defensive plan that works most of the time, except in the most critical, high pressure situations like end of game and especially in the playoffs. We could do worse for a head coach for sure, but it’s his tendency to crumble in the biggest moments that does it for me. I hope this year turns out different come playoff time of course, but there is a laundry list history of in game coaching failures that we have to look back on when games are close at the end vs good teams. This team should have at least been to a Super Bowl already with JA as QB or at the very least made another AFC championship game. I really hope they can overcome it this year and get over the hump.