Browns hire Dorsey as OC

[Buffalo_Stampede]

32 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

I think we could have found a better oc than Both

We finally have complementary football.

 

Edited February 6, 2024 by Buffalo_Stampede

[hondo in seattle]

Daboll was recently effusive in his praise of Dorsey:

 

"First, he’s a great person, a great teammate...  He’s very smart. He’s a good leader. He’s very good with scheme and X’s and O’s...  He has a good understanding of just football in general...  He’s well-versed in a variety of systems, and obviously the spread and RPO worlds are two components he has a really good mind for...  Ken is just a really good teacher.  He’s well-prepared. He did a great job with the quarterbacks when I was with him. He leaves no stone unturned... He’s competitive and he was just really detailed with that position, so when he was with me, I leaned on him a lot. He has good ideas. Good with scheme, good with fundamentals, a really good football coach.”

 

So what went wrong?  The offense looked stale, predictable, and one-dimensional after the three big blowouts.  

 

[DrBob806]

49 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Literally the name of their stadium. It’s a sad city and a sad stadium. 

It's actually a great city/region, great fans. 

[JerseyBills]

7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Bills have slumped before and turned it around. In fact I predicted it. Obviously I didn’t predict Dorsey would be fired but I thought they’d get out of the funk and that Josh would run again when it’s crunch time.

 

They obviously called the game differently. Brady called the game like we had zero WR talent and couldn’t run an NFL passing offense. Dorsey called it like we had an elite all pro QB and elite passing weapons.

 

I prefer Dorsey’s approach. We’ll see what happens.

This is an interesting quote. I do some truth to this  

I def prefer Brady, he just opened the offense up,  and even their final drive of the year went 16 plays, nearly 7 min and should've been capped off with a TD

 

🤣🤣

[Buffalo_Stampede]

20 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

This is an interesting quote. I do some truth to this  

I def prefer Brady, he just opened the offense up,  and even their final drive of the year went 16 plays, nearly 7 min and should've been capped off with a TD

 

🤣🤣

Brady simplified the offense, not opened it up. Made it more basic. It was affective. 

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Brady simplified the offense, not opened it up. Made it more basic. It was affective. 

I guess what I meant is it was more unpredictable.  He unleashed Shakir, Joshs legs and the run game, especially Ty Johnson. 

[gobills1212]

1 hour ago, DrBob806 said:

It's actually a great city/region, great fans. 

Off topic, but i hate going to other teams boards and see them make fun of a city theyve never been to or know very little (if anything) about. Id assume most ppl here have been to CLE, and while different,  it's also very similar. So much so, i cant imagine why someone from here woukd talk trash about there.

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

This is an interesting quote. I do some truth to this  

I def prefer Brady, he just opened the offense up,  and even their final drive of the year went 16 plays, nearly 7 min and should've been capped off with a TD

 

🤣🤣

Ah yes and the Bills offense was a well oiled machine midway through the season.

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

We won more, but the offense averaged about the same amount of points per game.

 

27.1 with Brady and 26.2 with Brady.

 

 

Definitely a better mix of run/pass though. Though I think we ran a bit too much at times with Brady.

True but the easiest defense Brady faced was the Eagles I believe.  Putting up 32 on the Jets, 31 on the Cowboys, 31 on the Steelers, and even 24 on the Chiefs was impressive. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

True but the easiest defense Brady faced was the Eagles I believe.  Putting up 32 on the Jets, 31 on the Cowboys, 31 on the Steelers, and even 24 on the Chiefs was impressive. 

This is definitely a great point. 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Brady simplified the offense, not opened it up. Made it more basic. It was affective. 

 

I don't think he made it more basic. It was very basic, sometimes painfully so, under Dorsey. Brady ran more, and people often associate that with basic, but there was a wider range of runs called by Brady than by Dorsey, and they used motion, formation and leverage much more creatively under Brady than under Dorsey. Dorsey's offense was struggling at the end of his reign because his players couldn't execute and he just kept calling the offense the same and expecting them to execute better. Brady accepted his guys were going to need some help and found some ways to put defenders in a bind to manufacture some space and opportunities. 

[DrBob806]

8 hours ago, gobills1212 said:

Off topic, but i hate going to other teams boards and see them make fun of a city theyve never been to or know very little (if anything) about. Id assume most ppl here have been to CLE, and while different,  it's also very similar. So much so, i cant imagine why someone from here woukd talk trash about there.

Yep. 

 

The only opposing city/stadium I visited (out of 8 road games) that I wasn't crazy about was St Louis, but their fans were awesome. 

 

I loved the Gateway Arch & the St Louis Cardinals HOF. But we stayed downtown & we weren't thrilled. Probably should have stayed elsewhere but it was convenient.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

10 hours ago, DrBob806 said:

It's actually a great city/region, great fans. 

 

Nope... not here. In this area many are Steelers fans and Browns fans simply don't represent on gamedays, even when they are winning! It's pathetic to be sure and ironically I was talking to a rare gameday representing Browns fan and told them I wanted us to lose to the Broncos so Dorsey would be fired and now he's THEIR OC... sorry, but I don't feel pity for them. Show up on gamedays and have some pride, for Gods sake!!!

[Beck Water]

On 1/28/2024 at 7:34 PM, Toyo321 said:

I am surprised the Browns did this frankly.....There were other better options still out there.

 

I wonder if the Browns choices were limited by

1) needing someone willing to work with Stefanski as primary play caller

2) willingness to work with DeShaun Watson

 

In the TBN article about Dorsey's interview as Browns OC, Dorsey was quoted with an interesting comment:

Quote

“When you look back and say, ‘Were we on the right track? Were we doing the things I felt like, at the end of the day, as the leader of the offense and play-caller were giving us the best chance to win?’ – in a lot of cases, there were a lot of ‘Yeses,’ and sometimes, in certain situations, I would maybe do something a little different,” Dorsey said.

 

As the leader of the offense.

Hmmmm.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I see Josh Allen as the" leader of the offense" and the OC as the designer and play caller.

[BarleyNY]

25 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I wonder if the Browns choices were limited by

1) needing someone willing to work with Stefanski as primary play caller

2) willingness to work with DeShaun Watson

 

In the TBN article about Dorsey's interview as Browns OC, Dorsey was quoted with an interesting comment:

 

As the leader of the offense.

Hmmmm.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I see Josh Allen as the" leader of the offense" and the OC as the designer and play caller.

 

1. The Browns first choice for OC was Kellen Moore who took the Philly job. I can’t imagine they expected him to take the job without having play calling duties. Stefanski is expected to retain them, but they have only said that it’s something they’re working through with Dorsey. 

 

2. I doubt any OC would really care about any past off field stuff with Watson. The top concern for most is the opportunity, which means the talent of their QB and offense. An OC could certainly do a lot worse - especially considering what a turnaround for Watson would mean for an OC’s career. 

 

3. You don’t want Brady to consider himself a leader of the offense? I sure do. It’s not like there can be only one leader.  

[Mister Defense]

13 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We ran the ball down teams throats. Literally something fans and local media feared our offense doing. All I heard during Daboll’s and Dorsey’s time as OC was McDermott wants to run the football more than pass it.

 

Well that is the Joe Brady offense so far. It definitely worked. The passing game was more horizontal and short. If this is what fans want then it’s a surprise to me. It’s the exact opposite of what they’ve been saying.

 

 

 

Not the fans I know! Most of us have been screaming from the rooftops, and some are on here doing so, that they needed a good/great running game as without one Josh was likely never taking this team to a championship.  It was proven this year, after Brady, just as it was two years ago, after a similar rough start to the season. It was the commitment to the running game that sparked the team--and they then just won and won and won.

 

I would guess that only a tiny percentage of fans believed that they should not run the ball more, like they mean it, and make it a much more vital part of the offense.

 

I cannot imagine why they would think the other way, though some did, do.  I think they believe 'we have a great quarterback, so let's just throw and throw and throw', not understanding that a good/great running game makes Allen, and the team as a whole, much more effective, dangerous.

 

This year, we will see an even bigger commitment to the running game, including in the off season.

 

 

 

 

[DrBob806]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Nope... not here. In this area many are Steelers fans and Browns fans simply don't represent on gamedays, even when they are winning! It's pathetic to be sure and ironically I was talking to a rare gameday representing Browns fan and told them I wanted us to lose to the Broncos so Dorsey would be fired and now he's THEIR OC... sorry, but I don't feel pity for them. Show up on gamedays and have some pride, for Gods sake!!!

It's been sold out since '99 fyi, even if it doesn't make sense with all the losing.

 

Having a team move for no reason will do that to a fan base 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

16 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Not the fans I know! Most of us have been screaming from the rooftops, and some are on here doing so, that they needed a good/great running game as without one Josh was likely never taking this team to a championship.  It was proven this year, after Brady, just as it was two years ago, after a similar rough start to the season. It was the commitment to the running game that sparked the team--and they then just won and won and won.

 

I would guess that only a tiny percentage of fans believed that they should not run the ball more, like they mean it, and make it a much more vital part of the offense.

 

I cannot imagine why they would think the other way, though some did, do.  I think they believe 'we have a great quarterback, so let's just throw and throw and throw', not understanding that a good/great running game makes Allen, and the team as a whole, much more effective, dangerous.

 

This year, we will see an even bigger commitment to the running game, including in the off season.

 

 

 

 

Stop. This board and local media absolutely killed McDermott anytime he said complementary football.

Edited February 6, 2024 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Beck Water]

11 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

 

🤣🤣

 

Good Lord, What Did I Just Listen to?

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

11 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

This is an interesting quote. I do some truth to this  

I def prefer Brady, he just opened the offense up,  and even their final drive of the year went 16 plays, nearly 7 min and should've been capped off with a TD

 

🤣🤣

Can't listen, can someone sum up? For the accusations of being a predator, or the way that he's wet the bed/ditched teammates over the past 18 months?