NewEra Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Only if the Lions oline, their RBs, St. Brown, and LaPorta come with him. Johnson might be a good HC. He might be a great offensive mind and play caller. I like him. I’d pump the brakes tho considering what he had to work with. Everything came together at the right time for them. Only if...... we have Josh Allen. He has Jared Goff. Good QB. Not Josh Allen I think there are times where you take a chance. Based on what I’ve seen from a play along perspective, I think this is a time to roll the dice I’m not expecting it to happen obv, but Johnson is the only guy this offseason that I’d roll the dice on over mcD 1 Quote
Behindenemylines Posted January 29 Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Low Positive said: I noticed more pre-snap motion with every week that Joe Brady had with the Bills offense. I hope to see a lot more of it with a full offseason in charge. Agree. Brady was a bit hamstringed having to utilize the existing playbook. 1 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 29 Posted January 29 40 minutes ago, philholbroo said: I hope he asks to get a wr from LSU! He is … but it’s Terrace Marshall whom he is going to ask Beane to trade for Quote
davefan66 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I am fine with him getting the job. What is needed is a better WR room. Any OC would have difficulty with our current WR’s. Get a true number 2 that will allow Diggs to play his game. Get a 4th that can actually play. Lastly, design plays that get the receivers open. Josh spends too much time running around until someone gets themselves open. I hope a full off-season allows him to make the tweaks that are needed. 2 2 Quote
Doc Brown Posted January 29 Posted January 29 5 hours ago, billieve420 said: Brady didn’t have the personnel to be explosive this season so will be interesting to see how the receiver room looks like next year. However, if he can at least give us the threat of a running game while fixing the passing offense they should be in decent shape on that side of the ball. What he showed me is their are multiple ways we can beat you and he did a better job of exploiting the opponents weaknesses compared to Dorsey. Pound the rock like we did against Dallas and Pittsburgh. Air it out against the Fins (pass rush issues) and Eagles (secondary issues). Using Josh as a rushing threat against the Chiefs who struggle against scrambling QB's. I'm fine with this hire and optimistic he can make Josh Allen the best version of himself next season. 2 1 Quote
UKBillFan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 We'll see what happens. Whilst an improvement on Dorsey, I think there were too many wrinkles on the offense under Brady, especially in the passing game. On the positive side, Josh seemed more relaxed. Do I wish we'd gone for someone with more experience and offered Brady the QB coach role once again or to take on an OC role elsewhere? At this moment in time, yes. Quote
Wayne Cubed Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I'm interested in seeing what Brady's playbook actually looks like. He wasn't running his playbook in those 9 games, that's something you install in the preseason and in season you aren't changing that. There's just no time to do that. What he did do a better job than Dorsey, was gameplaning/playcalling. As was mentioned upthread, he did have the advantage of having Josh run, which Dorsey didn't. The Bills can't run Josh as much as they did with Brady in the 9 games, all season. So what does Brady's offense look like? What did he pitch to McD he would run? Can playcall receivers open? Quote
Since1981 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) What’s more impressive? Dorsey OC CLE given the general perception of bills O after Dorsey. The W/L compare is exceedingly top of mind 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: On the positive side, Josh seemed more relaxed. There was def some kind of tension thing going on. “Low positive”, Diggs. It could well be that Brady didn’t change the playbook (couldn’t). But how the ingredients were used. Josh, Dion, seemed more at ease or something Chemistry matters. BTW, even talking to fans, Brady feels more comfortable. need to get W1, W2 that can stretch like Brown did for Allen Edited January 29 by Since1981 1 Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 29 Posted January 29 14 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: The guy didn't adjust in the second half in multiple games, just because Allen started scrambling doesn't mean he was a good coordinator McBeane has been riding the coat-tails of Josh Allen . All there blunders are masked behind the greatness of JA17 . Bills will never win with Mcd he never does his part when it matters most. 2 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: McBeane has been riding the coat-tails of Josh Allen . All there blunders are masked behind the greatness of JA17 . Bills will never win with Mcd he never does his part when it matters most. Thats the reward of hitting on a QB. You get to ride on the QB’s back for a decade. People act like they inherited Josh Allen. They went and got him. And also Josh Allen wasn’t a can’t miss prospect. McDermott and Beane surrounded Allen with the structure and culture to develop. 2 1 Quote
CSBill Posted January 29 Posted January 29 The one who will be the most annoyed is Stephon Diggs. .... Is he still on the milk cartons? 1 Quote
eball Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Brady was thrown into a very difficult situation mid-season, having to use Dorsey’s playbook and figure out how to make things work. He did an amazing job under those circumstances and showed an ability to find what’s working and stick with it. The game plan against KC was fantastic, and but for a couple of execution errors (and one less LB injury) I think the Bills would be playing in two weeks. Does anyone believe that what we saw is all he has to offer? He now has an opportunity to put his own stamp on the scheme and I am excited to see what results. 3 2 Quote
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 3 hours ago, davefan66 said: I am fine with him getting the job. What is needed is a better WR room. Any OC would have difficulty with our current WR’s. Get a true number 2 that will allow Diggs to play his game. Get a 4th that can actually play. Lastly, design plays that get the receivers open. Josh spends too much time running around until someone gets themselves open. I hope a full off-season allows him to make the tweaks that are needed. Yes create plays please that throw our top Wr’s open. Look at the play design on the Vikings. No matter what JJ gets the ball and the defense knows it and can’t stop it. Great play design to throw him open all the time Quote
Shortchaz Posted January 29 Posted January 29 The afc rep in the superbowl has zero wide receivers. Quote
Danger Mouse Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) I felt our offence was going to score on 8 out 10 drives after Brady took over. He wasn't super complicated, but with Josh you don't need to be. He's not the world's best OC but, again, I don't think he needs to be. I like the hire because I like his feel for a game. He gets us down the field. Daboll would do that and then struggle a bit in the red zone - lots of trick plays to compensate for no run game, whereas Dorsey barely got us down the field at all unless Josh found it easy. Or so it felt. It feels that if you've limited talent, you need a superstar OC for sure. But if you've got the talent- and for the most part, we do - you need someone who can call the games well based on what you're up against. It's a boring hire. But I'm down with it. I woudln't mind a bit more boring, effective predictabilty on offence next year. Plus, Josh has got that magic if it's required. Edited January 29 by Bill Grundy Quote
Green Lightning Posted January 29 Posted January 29 13 hours ago, nedboy7 said: You didn’t understand my point. Many factors why the offense numbers were worse but the wins were more under Brady. You don’t go to the SB after that win. Obviously. You don't think we could have beat the Ravens? Quote
Boatdrinks Posted January 29 Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: The afc rep in the superbowl has zero wide receivers. Yes , and it could very well have been the Bills. One 3 play sequence with a couple minutes remaining ensured it didn’t happen. Quote
VaMilBill Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, Behindenemylines said: Agree. Brady was a bit hamstringed having to utilize the existing playbook. I’m afraid this is gonna be the excuse used when the season starts off rough and our offense isn’t producing next year. That and it’s a new system, give it time. Hopefully I’m wrong. But the one thing we don’t have on our side is time with josh Allen only gettin older. Edited January 29 by VaMilBill Quote
nucci Posted January 29 Posted January 29 19 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: The afc rep in the superbowl has zero wide receivers. Kelce, Rice and Valdes-Scantling seem to be doing ok 1 Quote
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