HappyDays Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I wouldn't re-sign him next offseason unless he gives us a big hometown discount. Nothing to do with Spencer Brown the player, we just don't have the luxury of giving big contracts out to non-premium positions like RT while paying a franchise QB contract. Keep drafting RTs in rounds 2-7 and always have a pipeline of young talent there. I worry Beane will feel the need to extend him to highlight him as a draft success. 3 Quote
Doc Posted January 28 Posted January 28 28 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah but a lot of rebuilding teams could use a plug and play starter for a couple seasons. Panthers or Commanders, for instance. I'd explore it but I would bet Morse would retire if he were about to be traded. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 28 Posted January 28 For the 1st time in a long time, we can say going into this offseason, we have a really good OL. Torrance will get better. I want to see some more quality depth added and start looking at a replacement for after the 2024 season at Center. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Einstein said: There is very little doubt in my mind that they extend him at some point. As you pointed out, there is simply very little in the way of quality tackles available. I have my doubts that they extend him. This is a good offensive tackle draft class. I can see them drafting one and going back to the drawing board with a 2nd year 3rd-4th round pick battling Richard Gouraige for the RT job in 2025. I've probably always been more appreciative of Brown's progress than most and would love for him to eventually reach his athletic ceiling and become an Andrew Whitworth type and play a long career with Buffalo.......but I question his durability and more importantly the Bills have cap issues and you simply do not need an excellent RT to win a championship, IMO. Quote
Mynamemike Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Success said: Another guy who just needed some time. Seems to be a theme w/ a lot of the Bills' younger players. We sure love drafting big physical freaks and when they are coached right and allowed to develop it’s great. Hopefully Groot takes a big leap next year too. 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I wouldn't re-sign him next offseason unless he gives us a big hometown discount. Nothing to do with Spencer Brown the player, we just don't have the luxury of giving big contracts out to non-premium positions like RT while paying a franchise QB contract. Keep drafting RTs in rounds 2-7 and always have a pipeline of young talent there. I worry Beane will feel the need to extend him to highlight him as a draft success. I am not sure about Brown but I fully agree with the idea behind it. Beane has shown some ability to let guys go, but he need to be a little bit more ruthless at times imo. Let Davis and AJ go, let Brown go if need be. Quote
3rdand12 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Doc said: So that takes care of the right side of the OL. Now the question is what to do with Morse? get a bigger body in there, and just as smart. ASAP no offense to Morse 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: For the 1st time in a long time, we can say going into this offseason, we have a really good OL. Torrance will get better. I want to see some more quality depth added and start looking at a replacement for after the 2024 season at Center. Takes all five. Brown getting his game on , and next to Torrance ? Yea Buddy ! 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I told you guys Brown was gonna be good! I’m wrong a lot so I will take this slight victory! Much improved this year. 1 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 hours ago, SCBills said: This year has done a lot to validate Beane as a top tier drafting GM. He has misses, but even the best do. As we move forward, he may need to focus a bit more on immediate contributors, because we can’t really afford to have Top 100 draft picks taking multiple years to become above average contributors. A two year wait for a fixture at RT for the foreseeable future is certainly worth it. Just need to mix those developmental picks in with some more immediate impact guys moving forward. Some (a lot?) of that wait with Brown was due to his back injury that prevented him from training in 2022 offseason and missed most of 2022 camp. Really a lost season even though he played. 1 Quote
freddyjj Posted January 28 Posted January 28 9 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: 3 hours ago, Doc said: So that takes care of the right side of the OL. Now the question is what to do with Morse? get a bigger body in there, and just as smart. ASAP no offense to Morse From last preseason it appears OBD sees Ryan Bates or Alec Anderson as their next OC. In his post season locker room interview, Morse expressed an interest in playing one more year. Quote
Roundybout Posted January 28 Posted January 28 He played every game this season, why are we worried about his durability? The back injury was a freak thing last year. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) Let’s see him do it again.. but if he does… im not going to have a problem paying him…. You got to invest in the OL… Im ok with paying 3 of the 5 guys on the OL provided the other 2 are on rookie deals ,.,, find a C in the draft that can start in 2025 … Also … Dawkins and McGovern are not overpaid … Edited January 28 by Aussie Joe Quote
Doc Posted January 28 Posted January 28 8 minutes ago, freddyjj said: From last preseason it appears OBD sees Ryan Bates or Alec Anderson as their next OC. In his post season locker room interview, Morse expressed an interest in playing one more year. Yeah I can see Bates or Anderson taking over. The cap savings from cutting Morse is too tempting. 1 Quote
finn Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Success said: Another guy who just needed some time. Seems to be a theme w/ a lot of the Bills' younger players. Bernard, Oliver, and Dane Jackson, for sure. Hopefully Elam and Dorian Williams, too. The glaring exception is Gabe Davis. Quote
BigAl2526 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Success said: Another guy who just needed some time. Seems to be a theme w/ a lot of the Bills' younger players. The Bills drafted Brown in the second round. If you're not drafting in the first round, you're going to be getting something less than a complete prospect. In the case of Brown, the Bills drafted for traits. They got a tall, athletic tackle who has very long arms. He lacked the polish from playing in a big time college program. They might have been able to draft a player with better experience in place of Brown, but they probably would have had to sacrifice something - size or athleticism, if not both. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Not surprised in the least. His problem has been a recurring issue with his back, but when healthy, he can dominate. And he’s got that mean streak you love to see in an offensive lineman. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: The Bills drafted Brown in the second round. If you're not drafting in the first round, you're going to be getting something less than a complete prospect. In the case of Brown, the Bills drafted for traits. They got a tall, athletic tackle who has very long arms. He lacked the polish from playing in a big time college program. They might have been able to draft a player with better experience in place of Brown, but they probably would have had to sacrifice something - size or athleticism, if not both. They drafted him at pick 90 or so… at the end of the third 2 2 Quote
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