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1. Make Babbich DC and Brady OC

 

2. Re sign Hyde - one last ride.  If you want to increase odds of a SB having him back IF HEALTHY is a must.  His play did not drop off much.  Plus, we’re going to be drafting his replacement early.  Have the rookie ready to start in 2025.  
 

3. Re sign Daquan, Dodson, Dane - these are guys of our UFAs I’d want back.  I’m sure you can maybe upgrade cheaper - that’s not my job in this OP.  This is a blueprint lol.  

 

4. Target rotational DTs and DEs in UFA.  I won’t bother with names bc many guys including the WRs we want will be franchised - Higgins, Pittman.  Again, blueprint.  
 

 

Draft priorities:

WR - Draft 2

Safety - Draft 2

DL/DE - tie. 

CB

OL

RB 

 

 

2024 Roster

 

Defense:

 

Safety - Hyde, Poyer, Rapp, Rookie, Rookie

CB - Benford, Douglas, White, Jackson, Elam, Taron

LB - Milano, Bernard, Dorian, Dodson, Spector

DT - Oliver, Jones, Rookie, UFA

DE - Rousseau, Von, Rookie, UFA 

 

Offense:

 

QB - Allen, backup 

RB - Cook, Ty, Rookie, UFA 

WR - Rookie, Diggs, Shakir, UFA, Rookie, Shorter, Harty

TE - Kincaid, Knox 

OT - Dawkins, Brown

OG - Torrence, McGovern

C - Morse, Bates 

 

K - Bass

P - Martin

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2 minutes ago, Chicharito said:

Unfortunately I do not see white coming back.


 

I agreed - until I heard Beane’s presser. 
 

Just my gut.  
 

Now if they need the money - yea he’s probably getting cut.  But money for who?  

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6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:


 

I agreed - until I heard Beane’s presser. 
 

Just my gut.  
 

Now if they need the money - yea he’s probably getting cut.  But money for who?  


They are $50mil in the hole … gotta cut a couple 

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I’m going to predict that both Morse and Bates don’t return…. they can no longer be paying Bates $4m a year to sit on the bench …

 

They could trade him for a 4th or 5th I think … he is a starter in this league …I wouldn’t even hate keeping him and seeing what he has at C and moving on from Morse …

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:


 

I agreed - until I heard Beane’s presser. 
 

Just my gut.  
 

Now if they need the money - yea he’s probably getting cut.  But money for who?  

51 million in the hole and he wasn't 100% from the ACL when he ruptured the Achilles.  They need to release him. 

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Just now, BringBackFergy said:

Where the hell is Damar Hamlin!!??

Oh no you didn’t!!


 

Will not be back.  
 

Someone will sign him.  My guess is Pittsburgh.  

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My gut is Davis back.

My heart wishes von miller is suspended to be cut.

My brain says we flop the draft but get enough to win a playoff game in 2024.

My body says I ate too much pizza. 

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1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

I’m going to predict that both Morse and Bates don’t return…. they can no longer be paying Bates $4m a year to sit on the bench …

 

They could trade him for a 4th or 5th I think … he is a starter in this league …I wouldn’t even hate keeping him and seeing what he has at C and moving on from Morse …


All I’ve been reading every off season are predictions that Morse will be cut for the past 3 years but he hasn’t been.

 

Its not happening he’s one of the most important pieces to our OL and we would have a glaring hole at C

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2 minutes ago, DJB said:


All I’ve been reading every off season are predictions that Morse will be cut for the past 3 years but he hasn’t been.

 

Its not happening he’s one of the most important pieces to our OL and we would have a glaring hole at C


 

Agree and I feel this way about White to. 
 

Same Hyde. 
 

First with White, what if he is 80 percent Tre?  Isn’t that a CB 2 and an elite one?  I’ll just trust the Bills to make the right call here.  
 

But if we need the money, I’m fine cutting him.  I just don’t want to accept that he’s automatically done.   

 

As for Hyde, if he’s healthy and willing to come back, what is the guarantee we get better than him?  

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Without some major restructuring of contracts here is the BIlls' basic problem cap-wise.

 

The main offensive players under contract (14) (1QB, 1RB, 3WR, 2 TE, 7OL)- Allen, Cook, Diggs, Shakir, Shorter, Kincaid, Knox, Brown, Dawkins, Morse, Torrence, Bates, and Van Denmark, cost $141,184,141.

 

The main defensive players under contract (13) (3DE, 1DT, 4LB, 4CB, 1S) - Rousseau, Miller, Jonathan, Bernard, Milano, Spector, Williams, Johnson, Elam, Douglas, Benford, and Poyer, cost $87,937,695

 

Add 3 specialists Bass, Martin and Ferguson for $7,682,500 plus void dead cap of $11,635,084 and the Bills are at $248,439,420 in cap for 30 players.  This doesn't include 5 players under contract likely to be cut costing $33,139,404.  If cut, these 5 (White, Harty, Hines, Gilliam, and Neal), would save $20,027,901 off the $33+ million, but would bring the Bills cap total for 30 players plus dead cap to $261,550,923.

 

To put things in simple terms, the Bills are over the projected cap even with the 5 cuts approx $20 mill, and still need to add 24 players to the roster.  

 

So for those expecting big $ trades or FA signings, I think you are barking up the wrong tree.  The Bills are going to have to cut an additional $40 Million from the cap, besides the 5 cuts, to sign their draft picks and complete the roster with players making near-minimum contracts.  What a mess.  

 

I'm not saying Beane can't get it done. Obviously, he has to, but I'm no longer even expecting any like a McGovern level signing.

 

Looking at our FAs who people want back, here is what they made last season: Jones (8,563,333), Floyd (2,628,750), Dodson (2,010,000), Jackson (2,010,000), Epenesa (1,870,000), Rapp (1,770,000), Edwards (1,770,000), Ty Johnson (1,080,000) and Morris ($870,000).  We can't afford Jones, and Floyd and Epenesa won't come back anywhere close to their numbers.  Rapp and Edwards will also likely command bigger $. 

 

It's going to be a long hard, but interesting off-season to see what rabbits Beane can pull out of his hat to complete this roster.   

 

 

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44 minutes ago, DJB said:


All I’ve been reading every off season are predictions that Morse will be cut for the past 3 years but he hasn’t been.

 

Its not happening he’s one of the most important pieces to our OL and we would have a glaring hole at C


It’s going to happen one year and 2024 is more likely then the previous years

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18 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


It’s going to happen one year and 2024 is more likely then the previous years

It depends on whether Morse wants to return and whether management feels that Bates can fill the role for less.  

 

I suspect the solution here is Morse extends another year enabling the Bills to structure the contract to cut his cap hit by $3 mill or more in 2024.  

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3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

It depends on whether Morse wants to return and whether management feels that Bates can fill the role for less.  

 

I suspect the solution here is Morse extends another year enabling the Bills to structure the contract to cut his cap hit by $3 mill or more in 2024.  


It’s possible he extends ..but I don’t see it …

 

Makes you wonder why they kept Bates at $4m a year matching the Bears offer if they never thought he couldn’t  take over from Morse one day,,,

 

Like I said though … they aren’t keeping both in 2024 

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2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

I’m going to predict that both Morse and Bates don’t return…. they can no longer be paying Bates $4m a year to sit on the bench …

 

They could trade him for a 4th or 5th I think … he is a starter in this league …I wouldn’t even hate keeping him and seeing what he has at C and moving on from Morse …

 

But if Morse is cut, which could happen based on the cap savings, then the Bills would benefit from keeping Bates as an affordable and known replacement. He'd become a cheap starter.

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45 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 

Add 3 specialists Bass, Martin and Ferguson for $7,682,500 plus void dead cap of $11,635,084 and the Bills are at $248,439,420 in cap for 30 players.  This doesn't include 5 players under contract likely to be cut costing $33,139,404.  If cut, these 5 (White, Harty, Hines, Gilliam, and Neal), would save $20,027,901 off the $33+ million, but would bring the Bills cap total for 30 players plus dead cap to $261,550,923.

 

To put things in simple terms, the Bills are over the projected cap even with the 5 cuts approx $20 mill, and still need to add 24 players to the roster.  

 

 

Can you share who has determined "these 5 players under contract likely to be cut?" There are definitely others who could also fit the "Bill" this offseason, so I'm just wondering where this certainty comes from. 

 

Also, I do agree with 4 of your "likely" cuts. I don't immediately agree with Gilliam, however. Not that his presence on the roster is vital, but he is a versatile offensive depth dude who has teams value as well. That being said, I suppose tough times with the cap should start with replacing this exact type of player with younger, cheaper players. Gotta find smart rookie UFAs who can fill these fringe roles. 

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4 hours ago, Chicharito said:

Unfortunately I do not see white coming back.

I for hope there is a way for White to be a part of the team. Traing camp should speak volumes about whether he can come back or will be finished. His contract is a problem however.

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