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8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Will FSU’s Johnny Wilson be a WR or TE in the NFL?  Intriguing option to lineup outside in redzone and go jump ball 

I just don't buy him. We already have big redzone targets in Kincaid and Knox. Someone is going to take Wilson too early gambling he might turn into the next Plexico Burress, and I think they lose that bet.

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54 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Will FSU’s Johnny Wilson be a WR or TE in the NFL?  Intriguing option to lineup outside in redzone and go jump ball 

I’d love to snag Wilson….in rd 5

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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Will FSU’s Johnny Wilson be a WR or TE in the NFL?  Intriguing option to lineup outside in redzone and go jump ball 


Big guy for sure but he has incredibly suspect hands. He will not separate in the NFL and I just see him struggling if everything is going to be contested with his average hands. 

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2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Tank Dell was injured during critical part of the season. I'd like a more physical WR that can contribute the entire season. One that can take the NFL punishment

He got rolled up from behind.

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4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:


I think Diggs is 99 percent here in 2024…not even worth considering otherwise as they are handcuffed to him …

 

I was referring to you wanting two WR in the top 3 picks … seems a bit of a waste with them wanting to play more 12 and with Shakir and I think they get a cheap guy in FA as well…

 

Take another guy Day 3 sure …

 

Mostly agree with this, provided they get an  "alpha," "1b," "X," "potential #1 WR" type prospect (Thomas, Mitchell, Franklin, Coleman types) in 1st.

 

Wonder when this 2nd wave of WRs (listed above) start to come off the board? Or could it just be a steady cadence of 7 or even 8 1st round WRs -- a WR selected every 4th or 5th pick? Could even bleed into the next perceived tier of prospects.

 

We can reasonably assume someone out of the 3rd wave of Roman Wilson, Ladd McConkey, Xavier Legette, Ja'Lynn Polk, and others, will turn out to be super productive early on in their career. 

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3 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I just don't buy him. We already have big redzone targets in Kincaid and Knox. Someone is going to take Wilson too early gambling he might turn into the next Plexico Burress, and I think they lose that bet.

 

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’d love to snag Wilson….in rd 5

 

47 minutes ago, 947 said:

Johnny Wilson looks like the next Kelvin Benjamin.

 

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:


Big guy for sure but he has incredibly suspect hands. He will not separate in the NFL and I just see him struggling if everything is going to be contested with his average hands. 

 

Steve Smith was not kind to Devontez Walker. But he absolutely DESTROYED Johnny Wilson!

 

Smith: 6'7" 237 lbs - he is not a good multitasker. That boy can't chew gum and tie his shoes at the same time. You hear this about a lot of people; "he's a freak".... I mean, maybe at night But it ain't on the Football field! I'm just telling ya.

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4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Tank Dell was injured during critical part of the season. I'd like a more physical WR that can contribute the entire season. One that can take the NFL punishment

 

He broke his leg. You can break your leg whether you are 5'9 or 6'5. 

1 hour ago, 947 said:

Johnny Wilson looks like the next Kelvin Benjamin.

 

He looks borderline undraftable to me.

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4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

 

 

 

Steve Smith was not kind to Devontez Walker. But he absolutely DESTROYED Johnny Wilson!

 

Smith: 6'7" 237 lbs - he is not a good multitasker. That boy can't chew gum and tie his shoes at the same time. You hear this about a lot of people; "he's a freak".... I mean, maybe at night But it ain't on the Football field! I'm just telling ya.

I gotta watch Steve Smith’s rankings. Beane loves that guy.

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10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I gotta watch Steve Smith’s rankings. Beane loves that guy.

 

That was from a quick rundown he did on a number of guys. But yeah, he wasn't kind to Walker and he was brutal to Johnny Wilson:

 

 

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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That was from a quick rundown he did on a number of guys. But yeah, he wasn't kind to Walker and he was brutal to Johnny Wilson:

 

 

 

I actually found the bit at the end of the video the most interesting about fits and the role of the X vs the Z in the NFL and college. He did have some interesting takes on the receivers though. Called both Texas kids body catchers. 

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I actually found the bit at the end of the video the most interesting about fits and the role of the X vs the Z in the NFL and college. He did have some interesting takes on the receivers though. Called both Texas kids body catchers. 

I haven't watched his Adonai Mitchell deep dive, but I think someone here said he took that back in regards to Mitchell, which makes sense.

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20 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I haven't watched his Adonai Mitchell deep dive, but I think someone here said he took that back in regards to Mitchell, which makes sense.

 

Yea that would make sense because I confess that wasn't something that jumped out at me on Mitchell. 

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30 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I haven't watched his Adonai Mitchell deep dive, but I think someone here said he took that back in regards to Mitchell, which makes sense.

Yeah he did.  1 drop in his last 2 seasons of college ball iirc

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10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah he did.  1 drop in his last 2 seasons of college ball iirc

This is true, but he barely played 2 seasons ago (17 targets that year). He played a lot more in 2021 when he had 6 drops on 52 targets. I do think in general he has good hands though and he showed the ability to extend away from his body, reaching behind, etc. to pluck the ball out of the air. If your main priority is limiting drops, he's one of the best options in the class (I may lean towards Ricky Pearsall for best hands in the class). I don't really think Mitchell is someone I would take if I'm looking for someone that will win 50/50 balls though (though he certainly has the height and length to potentially become good at it).

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52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I actually found the bit at the end of the video the most interesting about fits and the role of the X vs the Z in the NFL and college. He did have some interesting takes on the receivers though. Called both Texas kids body catchers. 

Gabe Davis was actually our X. But I don’t think the X is what it used to be. Back in Smith’s day the X was the clear WR1. Now it can be X, Z, slot, or even Y as the WR1.

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Gabe Davis was actually our X. But I don’t think the X is what it used to be. Back in Smith’s day the X was the clear WR1. Now it can be X, Z, slot, or even Y as the WR1.

 

The Bills actually mixed up a lot whether Stef was the X or Gabe was the X. They both played the X and both played the Z. They were used relatively interchangeably. I think it did start to slant towards Gabe between Joe taking over and Gabe getting hurt.

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

The Bills actually mixed up a lot whether Stef was the X or Gabe was the X. They both played the X and both played the Z. They were used relatively interchangeably. I think it did start to slant towards Gabe between Joe taking over and Gabe getting hurt.

I’m sure they were interchangeable and moved around but Davis definitely played the role of X mostly from what I saw. 
 

But it’s not like the X WR of old. 


 

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