Dr. Who Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: On the Falcons: Pitts - top 10 pick, 53 catches, 667 yds and 3 tds 1 td in his "great" 1000 yard year Smith - 3rd pick, 50 catches, 582 yds and 3 tds He may never live up to expectations, but just as bad weather conditions can level the playing field, an inadequate QB can end up limiting the potential of an elite talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I would even potentially move up 6 to 8 spots to secure Thomas. I think he's the perfect match for Allen's style. Yeah we may need to jump the Bengals depending on what they do with Boyd or Higgins. That’s as far as I envision Beane moving up realistically 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: After the 3rd or 4th time you prove @4merper4mer points incorrect in a given thread you realize there's no convincing him and he's probably just trolling. He keeps changing his standards just like you but congrats on the Yankees awesome 2023 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I said that he had the second highest yardage total of any rookie TE ever. Where’s the lie? You said can’t miss guys don’t miss. I proved you wrong. You then said modern scouting has become infallible. I proved you wrong. You then shifted to top 10 scouting being infallible. I proved you wrong. You then changed the definition of “miss”. But you’re right, we should trade half our team and draft picks for two years because Harrison can’t miss. Edited February 11 by 4merper4mer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 21 minutes ago, DJB said: Yeah we may need to jump the Bengals depending on what they do with Boyd or Higgins. That’s as far as I envision Beane moving up realistically Yeah the moving into the top 10 talk is cool when you're playing Madden.... But in reality that talk is whack as crack 😂😆😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 42 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: You said can’t miss guys don’t miss. I proved you wrong. You then said modern scouting has become infallible. I proved you wrong. You then shifted to top 10 scouting being infallible. I proved you wrong. You then changed the definition of “miss”. But you’re right, we should trade half our team and draft picks for two years because Harrison can’t miss. Lol, what? You didn’t prove anything other than you asked the wrong questions. You asked questions and got factual answers dispelling the narrative you were trying to push through. You then declared victory 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Lol, what? You didn’t prove anything other than you asked the wrong questions. You asked questions and got factual answers dispelling the narrative you were trying to push through. You then declared victory 😂😂 Did you not say the draftniks are now impervious? Let’s loop back after we’re done watching Trubisky win another Super Bowl for the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said: On the Falcons: Pitts - top 10 pick, 53 catches, 667 yds and 3 tds 1 td in his "great" 1000 yard year Smith - 3rd pick, 50 catches, 582 yds and 3 tds I live in Atlanta. If they get a real QB you should see an explosion of production from Pitts and London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Did you not say the draftniks are now impervious? Let’s loop back after we’re done watching Trubisky win another Super Bowl for the Bears. I believe that there is virtually ZERO risk in can’t miss guys. MHJ is that. Jalen Reagor isn’t his comp 😂😂. You know that. Ja’Mar Chase is probably the closest. Calvin, Fitz, Julio and AJ Green are the only others that I can think of thought of like him. 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Did you not say the draftniks are now impervious? Let’s loop back after we’re done watching Trubisky win another Super Bowl for the Bears. Who said he was can’t miss? He was a flawed prospect with good tools. The same as Josh, Mahomes and Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 57 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I live in Atlanta. If they get a real QB you should see an explosion of production from Pitts and London. I live in Buffalo. We shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I believe that there is virtually ZERO risk in can’t miss guys. MHJ is that. Jalen Reagor isn’t his comp 😂😂. You know that. Ja’Mar Chase is probably the closest. Calvin, Fitz, Julio and AJ Green are the only others that I can think of thought of like him. Who said he was can’t miss? He was a flawed prospect with good tools. The same as Josh, Mahomes and Darnold. I never made a comp of Harrison to Raegor. The point was that Raegor, Ruggs and Jeudy were all taken before Justin Jefferson meaning the experts get it wrong sometimes. If you’re putting a guy in the HOF before his career starts, you may turn out correct. Or maybe not. Emphatically stating that nothing else can happen is something that has been proven wrong over and over again in sports, financial markets, weather forecasting and world history. But you be you I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I never made a comp of Harrison to Raegor. The point was that Raegor, Ruggs and Jeudy were all taken before Justin Jefferson meaning the experts get it wrong sometimes. If you’re putting a guy in the HOF before his career starts, you may turn out correct. Or maybe not. Emphatically stating that nothing else can happen is something that has been proven wrong over and over again in sports, financial markets, weather forecasting and world history. But you be you I guess. I’m not putting him right in the HOF. I believe that his floor is Amari Cooper. That’s what makes him such an incredible prospect. His ceiling is one of the best ever. His floor is a top 8(ish) WR. That’s why he’s different. Again, they aren’t going to be able to go get him. I would support it though if they did. I think that would put them over the top. There are other moves that could work out as well obviously. Edited February 12 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m not putting him right in the HOF. I believe that his floor is Amari Cooper. That’s what makes him such an incredible prospect. His ceiling is one of the best ever. His floor is a top 8(ish) WR. That’s why he’s different. Again, they aren’t going to be able to go get him. I would support it though if they did. I think that would t them over the top. There are other moves that could work out as well obviously. Well if you have Amari Cooper in the top 8 ish that is……interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 16 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Well if you have Amari Cooper in the top 8 ish that is……interesting. He had 1,250 yards. He averages about 1,000 yards and 6 TDs with spotty QB play. Maybe he’s top 12 but you get the point. At his floor, Cooper is better than more than 1/2 of the team’s top WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, DJB said: Yeah we may need to jump the Bengals depending on what they do with Boyd or Higgins. That’s as far as I envision Beane moving up realistically I can’t see the Bengals taking WR in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: What do the following players have in common? Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Raegor? Sammy Watkins… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/10/2024 at 12:12 PM, GASabresIUFan said: I don’t think he’ll be back next season. Too much cap benefit to moving on especially if they retain Hines after a contract restructure. I do believe Beane will draft a 2nd WR in the 5th (we have 2 5th rd picks), but if they like Shorter and release Harty maybe they sign a cheap vet instead. harty was easy whipping bou this year, but flat out give me him over freakin Hines all day..... especially if they get input from Brady that he thinks he can scheme him. dude was completely invisible with Dorksey, we saw a pulse from him after the change. not saying hes guaranteed dynamic, but would give him 2nd chance if brady gives approval nod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: harty was easy whipping bou this year, but flat out give me him over freakin Hines all day..... especially if they get input from Brady that he thinks he can scheme him. dude was completely invisible with Dorksey, we saw a pulse from him after the change. not saying hes guaranteed dynamic, but would give him 2nd chance if brady gives approval nod did you forget that Hines had 2 KR TD's in the same game? He has more pure speed (or had) than Harty who is more of a quickness in small spaces type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/11/2024 at 2:36 AM, BillsFanForever19 said: This is a good point and further points to the ridiculousness of going WR in 2 or all 3 of the first picks - like many are doing here. My focus has been on securing a starting WR in Round 1 and addressing the starting and rotational holes we have elsewhere this season. But it goes deeper than just this year. As you pointed out, past this season - we only have Connor McGovern and O'Cyrus Torrence under contract. While i'd expect an extension for Dion Dawkins, we'll need a new Center and while Spencer Brown was better last season, I'm not sure I'm ready to sign him up for an extension immediately. And behind Dawkins and Brown, we just have Ryan Van Demark, Tommy Doyle (who was on IR all last season and will be a FA himself next year). So long story short, on top of starting holes at DE, DT (and all rotating DT's as Oliver is the only one under contract), S (possibly two if we also move on from Poyer) - we also need to think about the O-Line for this season and especially next. We cannot afford to double down on WR in the first two Rounds and probably not even in Round 3. If we go WR Round 1 as expected, Round 4 should be the earliest we think of a double dip. And there's photos of Josh and his dad decked out in Patriots jerseys at a Pats game. That all goes out the window when it becomes your job. Would just like to clarify for my own sanity, they were Brady*** jerseys. Seemingly the same thing except Josh is a QB born in '96. Very forgivable, and i might be concerned about a QB his age growing up NOT idolizing the man. He has atoned for these sins, VIVA LA JOSH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Find a way: 1 of Nabers / Oduze OR 1 of Thomas Jr / Franklin / Mitchell & 1 of Legette / Worthy / Wilson / Baker / Walker / Burton / Polk / Rice Edited February 12 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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