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  On 2/1/2024 at 8:42 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

 

 

If, as @DCOrange for example does, you think Thomas is closer to the top 3 than the next batch (I don't personally I think he is in that second tier but some do) then there is a route to get to 13/14/15 for him. 

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Giving up this years and next years 2nd might get it done … I think that’s a lot to hope the 4th best guy works out better than the 6th best … I would rather increase the odds by keeping the picks and taking 2 more WRs 

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  On 2/1/2024 at 4:07 PM, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Watching Legettes tape I don’t see a 4.3 guy, more like 4.5. In an ideal world we get size speed and separation, and that is Brian Thomas. Troy Franklin would be a nice fit as well. 

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I think Leggette's 40 could disappoint those thinking he's running in the 4.3s. My guess is low to mid-4.4s at best. His field/ play speed is probably very fast and frankly I would think that's more important than his 40 time but he is a long strider who needs a few steps to max out. 

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  On 2/1/2024 at 8:17 PM, Ga boy said:

Ok, do whatever it takes.  This and next years first, plus any player not named Allen or Milano.  I don’t want 4-5th best WR.  Speed, size, separation and don’t forget doggishness with get us a Lombardi.  We can’t stay at 28.

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Dude, love the passion but, I don’t think it really matters. 
 

To do what you’re saying, The Bills would HAVE to offer Allen or Milano….maybe Oliver(doubt it though)commands a higher trade value. Beyond that, the Bills ain’t getting chit for anyone else. 

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  On 2/1/2024 at 4:22 PM, GASabresIUFan said:

Actually it’s not.  The Bills also need starters at safety, Edge and DT.   Last year they picked up two starters, Kincaid and Torrence in the first two rounds drafting in a similar slot.  This year they will have to do the same given our cap problems.  
 

Add the depth in the WR class and the Bills actually may be better off trading down a few slots in the 1st to recover a 3rd pick to replace the one traded for Douglas.  
 

With 4 top 100 picks, the Bills should be able to add starters at WR and Safety with their first two picks, and then two defensive linemen in the 3rd.

 

Also given our cap issues, get cheap depth through the draft is also imperative.  With 2 5ths and 3 6ths, Beane should be able to add depth at WR, RB, S and maybe even a developmental QB.  
 

Don’t forget the Nucua was a 5th rd pick last year and Purdy was the last pick in the draft.  Beane has an excellent history later in the draft.

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I'd take a squad full of Shaq Lawsons and Taylor Rapps at DE & S if it meant we stacked the WR cupboard instead. Would have held KC to the same point total but put up 50 on the other side so who care

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  On 2/1/2024 at 8:42 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

The big problem with a trade up for one of the top 3 receivers is there is no landing spot. If as expected the top 3 all take Quarterbacks the next 3 all have needs at receiver. I think 3 QBs plus 3 WRs is the likely top 6. So there is no route to get one of those guys. 

 

If, as @DCOrange for example does, you think Thomas is closer to the top 3 than the next batch (I don't personally I think he is in that second tier but some do) then there is a route to get to 13/14/15 for him. 

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And if god forbid New England goes Harrison instead of QB (which is what I think they should do), then it's even tougher to imagine Nabers/Odunze slipping far enough for us to have a real chance. Probably have to pray guys like Bowers or the OTs go ahead of the WRs.

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  On 2/1/2024 at 9:49 PM, DCOrange said:

And if god forbid New England goes Harrison instead of QB (which is what I think they should do), then it's even tougher to imagine Nabers/Odunze slipping far enough for us to have a real chance. Probably have to pray guys like Bowers or the OTs go ahead of the WRs.

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Yea to trade up for the top 3 I think you'd have to have to have one left on the board at #8. Cos the Falcons are the first team I can genuinely imagine wanting to move back.

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  On 2/1/2024 at 5:35 PM, mannc said:

Since when did Miami become a "WR needy team"?  I can't think of a team less likely to draft a WR in round 1.

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He was mocked to Miami by Jeremiah or Bucky Brooks forget which one 

  On 2/1/2024 at 11:13 AM, Pete said:

Im guessing Beane signs 2 WR before draft.  Kendrick Bourne is a name to keep an eye on.  He seperates, is a deep threat, and will be a moderately price WR with upside

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I thought Bourne got in trouble? Was that someone else? 

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  On 2/1/2024 at 9:49 PM, DCOrange said:

And if god forbid New England goes Harrison instead of QB (which is what I think they should do), then it's even tougher to imagine Nabers/Odunze slipping far enough for us to have a real chance. Probably have to pray guys like Bowers or the OTs go ahead of the WRs.

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I think Pats go QB (JD) and Tee Higgins in FA. But I do agree MHJ is hard to pass on.

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  On 1/27/2024 at 6:42 PM, Brand J said:

Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft.

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THANK YOU.  I harp on this all the time around here.  It is straight up "WRONG" to trade up, unless you are going way up to get the franchise QB of your dreams...then I'd give up half the team to move up and get that guy...

 

I love how people post those "thumbs down" and what not under your post...as though they know better. LOL.

 

Have all the Bills fans already forgotten Sammy Watkins and the 2014 draft?

 

Gave up a LOT of assets to move up to 4, to take a bust of a WR who was much worse than what we could have gotten  further down, including some stiff named Beckham, Jr.

 

Aaron Donald was also available for us at our original spot of 9 before the move up!

 

LOL.  Obviously, the "scouting" process leaves quite a lot to be desired.

 

The fundamental flaw with moving "UP" is it assumes the guy you take at that higher spot is somehow a higher value player.

 

The rankings are absolute; most of them are WRONG.

 

So you are moving up on a guess as to who you think should being top value.


Much smarter to always TRADE DOWN and get more picks.

 

Those guys might be just as good or better anyway.

 

More kicks at the can is a superior strategy when you don't really have an ability to accurately grade talent.

 

 

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  On 2/1/2024 at 10:36 PM, Nextmanup said:

 

 

I love how people post those "thumbs down" and what not under your post...as though they know better. LOL.

 

 

 

 

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Thumbs down or red crosses but no counter argument … it’s just “you are wrong”…. I mean … we are still 10 weeks out from the draft …combine and free agency to come …lot of things will change

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  On 2/1/2024 at 10:32 PM, starrymessenger said:

I think Pats go QB (JD) and Tee Higgins in FA. But I do agree MHJ is hard to pass on.

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Not sure about Higgins but I do expect them to take whichever is left over between Maye and Daniels at #3. I personally have Daniels as a 4th round prospect and have JJ as my #3 QB with a 2nd round grade, so that's really why I'd go Harrison in their shoes (on top of the fact that Harrison is an elite WR prospect).

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  On 2/1/2024 at 10:53 PM, DCOrange said:

Not sure about Higgins but I do expect them to take whichever is left over between Maye and Daniels at #3. I personally have Daniels as a 4th round prospect and have JJ as my #3 QB with a 2nd round grade, so that's really why I'd go Harrison in their shoes (on top of the fact that Harrison is an elite WR prospect).

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That's why we want them to take Daniels. 

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