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  • I'm not confident about Brian Thomas Jr., AD Mitchell, Xavier Worthy and Keon Coleman. 
  • Burton is a very good receiver but I doubt he's on our board. 
  • I like Troy Franklin
  • Wilson and McConkey and Legette are really interesting 

 

Tangential, @GunnerBill do you have a preferred WR-separation metric (burns?) and ranking of receivers based on that criteria?

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1 hour ago, Sestak4ever said:

I think McConkey can be the “go to” money guy, in the same way Beasley and Edelman were. However I think McConkey will be a better YAC dude.

 

McConkey plays nothing like Beasley or Edelman.  He is more Diggs than those smaller slot WR guys.

1 hour ago, starrymessenger said:

Allen's long ball accuracy is indeed spotty. He can do better. Get him the right receiver(s) and imo his accuracy will improve. You have to make productive use of that arm. 

Of course bombs are fun but they are in any event low completion playcalls. The credible threat to take the top off at any time can however do a lot for your O underneath.

 

Don't agree with this.  There has been countless times where the WR was wide opened and Allen just straight up missed the guy.  What else do you want the WR to do.  I go back to the Miami game.  Allen completely misses Diggs wide opened deep, and on a deep ball Diggs does catch in London, it was terrible placement.

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I really think it’s going to be McConkey in the first. Defense with our 2nd and our third pick being another wideout after moving up in the 3rd. 

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16 minutes ago, Bill51390 said:

I really think it’s going to be McConkey in the first. Defense with our 2nd and our third pick being another wideout after moving up in the 3rd. 

 

maybe he'll be great.....but we already have Shakir and Kincaid.   I want a big guy with elite speed whose presence scares players 

 

Correct me if wrong, weren't Ladd's #'s really poor against press man?  We already have a team of zone beaters.  We need guys who can win vs man 

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16 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

 

Apologies if this has been posted.

 

They are surprisingly high on Franklin.

 

Burton is rated as a first round talent "but an off field lunatic"

 

Can't wait to see who they take.

 

Outside of the top 4 wouldn't mind a small trade back into the 2nd to grab WR there. Would love to come away with Brian Thomas Jr. but long shot at this point.

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I’m hearing that Ladd is too redundant to Shakir, Samuel, and Kincaid, but I’m not sure you can have too many receivers who can create separation in the slot. That’s the type of receiver who Allen loves throwing to and takes advantage of Allen’s huge arm with low risk.  Only a rare-arm strength QBs can make a living off of throwing to receivers who they see open.  

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7 hours ago, biggerdaddynj said:

Probation and a morals clause $$z

Got rid of a future HOF WR1 past his healthy so why not dump more money that we were not supposed to have for a future HOF edge rusher.  A guy can deal.  😈

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32 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

I’m hearing that Ladd is too redundant to Shakir, Samuel, and Kincaid, but I’m not sure you can have too many receivers who can create separation in the slot. That’s the type of receiver who Allen loves throwing to and takes advantage of Allen’s huge arm with low risk.  Only a rare-arm strength QBs can make a living off of throwing to receivers who they see open.  

McConkey lined up on the outside for 70% of his snaps with UGA. I'd love the pick, but they'd still have to add a big X. Someone like Mitchell or Legette.

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3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

maybe he'll be great.....but we already have Shakir and Kincaid.   I want a big guy with elite speed whose presence scares players 

 

Correct me if wrong, weren't Ladd's #'s really poor against press man?  We already have a team of zone beaters.  We need guys who can win vs man 

Agree 👍 

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3 hours ago, Bill51390 said:

I really think it’s going to be McConkey in the first. Defense with our 2nd and our third pick being another wideout after moving up in the 3rd. 

I fully agree with this. I'd love McConkey, Defense, Brenden Rice.

 

I think McConkey is the WR most likely to provide big contributions from Day 1.

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1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

McConkey lined up on the outside for 70% of his snaps with UGA. I'd love the pick, but they'd still have to add a big X. Someone like Mitchell or Legette.

 

Which to me is the crux of the issue of McConkey to me. He's someone who's going to go somewhere between where we're picking and 40. He's not my first or second choice for who we'll have a shot at in Round 1 and he's not someone who will be available for our 2nd pick - without giving up prime '25 assets to go from 60 to the area he'll be taken in.

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1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Which to me is the crux of the issue of McConkey to me. He's someone who's going to go somewhere between where we're picking and 40. He's not my first or second choice for who we'll have a shot at in Round 1 and he's not someone who will be available for our 2nd pick - without giving up prime '25 assets to go from 60 to the area he'll be taken in.

That's right. I think one of the seconds next year might be in play if they attempt this route. They might go big and try and get one of the top 3. I think Thomas will likely be expensive now, too. If they don't, this is my preferred strategy. And I just like McConkey better than most. I think he's a contributor right out of the box, and a perfect match with Kincaid. 

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14 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

That's right. I think one of the seconds next year might be in play if they attempt this route. They might go big and try and get one of the top 3. I think Thomas will likely be expensive now, too. If they don't, this is my preferred strategy. And I just like McConkey better than most. I think he's a contributor right out of the box, and a perfect match with Kincaid. 

 

If they are to trade one of our 2nd's next year, I would hope it would be for someone like Brian Thomas Jr. Though I wouldn't be opposed to a big trade up for the Top 3 - I just think the cost would be far too great for someone like Beane to do for a position other than QB. Thomas to me represents the likely Top Trade up option. One of the top 4 WR's are the only ones I'd be willing to give up prime '25 Draft Capital for.

 

I don't know that I'm personally interested in giving up 60 plus a '25 2nd for a 2nd WR like McConkey or Franklin. Especially the pick we got for Diggs. And I don't know that our 2nd plus a '25 2nd is even enough to get to where he's going to be selected. 

 

I'd rather keep both 2nd Rounders next year and select someone like Wilson, Polk, Pearsall, McMillan, Burton, or Baker at 60 as the Double Dip. That's just me though.

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3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

maybe he'll be great.....but we already have Shakir and Kincaid.   I want a big guy with elite speed whose presence scares players 

 

Correct me if wrong, weren't Ladd's #'s really poor against press man?  We already have a team of zone beaters.  We need guys who can win vs man 


 

 

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I think now that we need a WR who can legit compete from Day 1, our draft strategy may change a bit.

 

I see AD Mitchell, Franklin, Legette, & even Brian Thomas Jr as somewhat raw (to varying degrees) & in need of development- the type of guys who won't really come alive the last 6-8 games of their rookie year. I think McConkey is pro-ready now & could put up a Puka-like rookie season in our offense.

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16 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

That guy on Joe Marinos show convinced me, take Legette. 

Yep unless I trade the farm for the top 3, in draft McConkey at 28 and trade up on the 2nd to take legette

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2 hours ago, 947 said:

I think now that we need a WR who can legit compete from Day 1, our draft strategy may change a bit.

 

I see AD Mitchell, Franklin, Legette, & even Brian Thomas Jr as somewhat raw (to varying degrees) & in need of development- the type of guys who won't really come alive the last 6-8 games of their rookie year. I think McConkey is pro-ready now & could put up a Puka-like rookie season in our offense.

 

I think Burton is a WR1 ready to contribute....and I hate that I firmly believe he's going to the Chiefs.

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