BillsFanForever19 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Is anyone thinking that Worthy might go MUCH earlier than projected? He's got the speed and buzz that has rocketed other WRs way up in the 1st round. A team like the Raiders (if Al Davis was still around I'd say bank on it) or the Cowboys could take a swing at him. There could be other teams lurking in the teens and twenties. He strikes me as a guy who gets picked surprisingly early. (forgive me if it's been considered already in this marathon thread) There was some discussion directly following the Combine that maybe that was a reality. I remember Ian Rappaport saying on the telecast that he had talked to a "respected executive" who told him that they thought he may have just made himself WR4 in the Draft. But as time has gone on, people have looked at his tape, and discussed him further with execs and people in the know - he seems to have kind of settled in to that WR6-8 area. Scuttlebutt lately that I've been hearing is that Mitchell is up there with Thomas alone in the 2nd Tier, that it's possible Mitchell may leapfrog him, and that neither Thomas or Mitchell will be available for us. All it takes is one team though. I could easily see a scenario where someone gets obsessed with his speed and overdrafts him. But I think occurrences of falling in love with elite speed and overdrafting for that in John Ross or Henry Ruggs and the results that came from them may work against him in that. Edited March 29 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
Yantha Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Too many pages to read here! What's the impression of Luke McCaffrey? Underrated? Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Yantha said: Too many pages to read here! What's the impression of Luke McCaffrey? Underrated? He's an intriguing 4th or 5th Round Prospect. Obviously good genes, posted good numbers at the Combine. But he's a converted QB and has only played WR last year and this year and at an AAC level School in Rice. So he's obviously very raw. I like him and am interested, if he was still on the board at the end of the 4th or beginning of the 5th. Genes and athletic ability make him worth a gamble there. Edited March 29 by BillsFanForever19 5 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: He had a really bad senior bowl I won’t argue that but he had a really good combine more than just athletic testing. I also feel that if you’re a big Legette fan then you should be a big Tez Walker fan. Basically the same size, Walker had better testing, and both win a lot of contested balls in tight coverage. I actually think that Walker made Maye look better than he is Quote
DJB Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I want nothing to do with Tez Walker. He absolutely crumbled at the senior bowl and we need guys that step up when it matters most in the playoffs and not fold like a cheap tent. Hes a huge pass for me with those very questionable hands Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 29 Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: He had a really bad senior bowl I won’t argue that but he had a really good combine more than just athletic testing. I also feel that if you’re a big Legette fan then you should be a big Tez Walker fan. Basically the same size, Walker had better testing, and both win a lot of contested balls in tight coverage. I actually think that Walker made Maye look better than he is Legette and Walker are very different style of player. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Legette and Walker are very different style of player. I disagree. They’re both slow accelerators that when they get up to top speed can take the top off a defense. Both need refined route running. Both make a lot of contested catches in tight coverage. Their athletic testing are actually very similar the only difference is Legette is heavier if that is what is classified as different Quote
LEBills Posted March 29 Posted March 29 18 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: He had a really bad senior bowl I won’t argue that but he had a really good combine more than just athletic testing. I also feel that if you’re a big Legette fan then you should be a big Tez Walker fan. Basically the same size, Walker had better testing, and both win a lot of contested balls in tight coverage. I actually think that Walker made Maye look better than he is Agreed, he is not a refined route runner and separator which is part of the reason he looked bad at the senior bowl but he is an excellent deep ball tracker and the long speed is real. Felt like he really good game against Nate Wiggins who is a really good corner on a day that Maye really struggled against Clemson. Late in the second I could see him being one of the better receivers left if their is a run like expected Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 21 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I disagree. They’re both slow accelerators that when they get up to top speed can take the top off a defense. Both need refined route running. Both make a lot of contested catches in tight coverage. Their athletic testing are actually very similar the only difference is Legette is heavier if that is what is classified as different Legette looks like a monster Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 20 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I disagree. They’re both slow accelerators that when they get up to top speed can take the top off a defense. Both need refined route running. Both make a lot of contested catches in tight coverage. Their athletic testing are actually very similar the only difference is Legette is heavier if that is what is classified as different I think Legette is much stronger in contested catches. I am not disagreeing with you on Walker’s athleticism and that his Combine was much better. FWIW, former GM Rick Speilman described Walker as a “Saturday pick”. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I think Legette is much stronger in contested catches. I am not disagreeing with you on Walker’s athleticism and that his Combine was much better. FWIW, former GM Rick Speilman described Walker as a “Saturday pick”. Hey if that happens I think that’s a steal in round 4 I also do think it’s possible that Walker drops because he has a history of depression that was noted through his college career. Fair probably not but stuff like that is taken into consideration when drafting players Edited March 29 by gonzo1105 1 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Any chance we double dip at WR this year? If we’re thinking about taking a guy like Tez Walker, I’d be for it but would hope he’s the second part of a two WR draft. High potential guy, but not remotely close enough to the level of polish to be the only guy we take. 1 1 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 29 Posted March 29 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: Any chance we double dip at WR this year? If we’re thinking about taking a guy like Tez Walker, I’d be for it but would hope he’s the second part of a two WR draft. High potential guy, but not remotely close enough to the level of polish to be the only guy we take. Yes, I see it as likely that the Bills take one at 28 or 60 (or one of our top two picks if we trade) and another at the end of round 4. 1 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 13 hours ago, Dr. Who said: They should just take him at #28 if Thomas and Mitchell are gone. Historically, Leggette is not the type of prospect Beane drafts in rd 1. Majority of the successful first rd wrs are juniors. I dont hate the player but something to consider. Allen seemed to like him when he brought his name up. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted March 29 Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Legette looks like a monster Like an Eric Moulds Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, nosejob said: Like an Eric Moulds Legette has a massively wide frame and is faster than Moulds was IMO 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I thought Franklin was the best fit for the Bills and strayed away from that after the combine but as we get closer I find myself drawn back to him again as best fit 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I thought Franklin was the best fit for the Bills and strayed away from that after the combine but as we get closer I find myself drawn back to him again as best fit a lot will depend on how his private workout with the Bills went. I'm thinking he could be had with a trade up in Round 2 after we snag BTJ / Legette / AD 28 + 2025 1st, 4th for 9th: Nabers / Odunze Or 28, 128, 2025 1st for 16th + a 3rd this year: BTJ Edited March 29 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote
LEBills Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 26 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I thought Franklin was the best fit for the Bills and strayed away from that after the combine but as we get closer I find myself drawn back to him again as best fit He is still my top realistic pick for the Bills as well. The combine sucked for him but the most concerning parts of the combine - his size, his 10 yard split, his gauntlet just didn’t match what he looked like in game and he weighed more at the pro day. Outside of the top 3, I think he has the best combination of releases at the line, route running, yac, and - most important for the Bills - explosive plays. I do think he is more of a Diggs successor than a Gabe replacement. A well rounded player. Edited March 29 by LEBills 1 Quote
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