GunnerBill Posted March 19 Posted March 19 23 hours ago, mannc said: Chris Simms just put out his WR draft rankings...had MHJ at 4 and Roman Wilson at 5. His WR rankings have been very good...Not saying he's right or wrong in this case, but this points to the fact that this is a very deep class and there isn't much separating the guys at the top. His ranking have been mixed. He had Jalin Hyatt and Michael Wilson in his top 5 last year and no Jordan Addison. He had no Wilson or Olave in his top 5 in 2022 and he had Dyami Brown (who admittedly I was high on too) ahead of Jaylen Waddle in 2021. He loved Justin Jefferson more than most. He gets kudos for that. But he has been more wrong than right since. 1 Quote
mannc Posted March 19 Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: His ranking have been mixed. He had Jalin Hyatt and Michael Wilson in his top 5 last year and no Jordan Addison. He had no Wilson or Olave in his top 5 in 2022 and he had Dyami Brown (who admittedly I was high on too) ahead of Jaylen Waddle in 2021. He loved Justin Jefferson more than most. He gets kudos for that. But he has been more wrong than right since. Hyatt and especially Wilson have been pretty good. Simms also had Zay Flowers as WR1 last year, which was good call. He's had a lot of other hits, too. Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 19 Posted March 19 48 minutes ago, mannc said: Hyatt and especially Wilson have been pretty good. Simms also had Zay Flowers as WR1 last year, which was good call. He's had a lot of other hits, too. I mean Flowers was 4th best as a rookie. Hyatt and Wilson have shown flashes. But to have them above Addison and Rice doesn't strike me as super smart. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Posted March 19 I don’t know what I’m looking at but it likes Troy Franklin. 3 Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 19 Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don’t know what I’m looking at but it likes Troy Franklin. Targets, Yards Per Route run, 1st downs Per Route Run, Points per Pass Attempt per game and Points per Pass Attempt per snap. Quote
Brand J Posted March 19 Posted March 19 One disappointing first round pick for another: CB Kaiir Elam to Detroit for WR Jameson Williams. Who’s with me? Quote
Bruffalo Posted March 19 Posted March 19 1 minute ago, Brand J said: One disappointing first round pick for another: CB Kaiir Elam to Detroit for WR Jameson Williams. Who’s with me? No one in Detroit would ever make that trade. 1 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 20 Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, Brand J said: One disappointing first round pick for another: CB Kaiir Elam to Detroit for WR Jameson Williams. Who’s with me? Jameson was hurt. Dudes gonna be great. 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Adonai Mitchell would be unreal to get this guy at #28 if he is still in play. Or even move up to get this guy. Big, fast, unreal athleticism and can catch contested balls. They only worry can he play in the cold. Thats the big question. He smoked AJ Brown and Julio Jones in the 4.35 40yd. https://youtu.be/eTHx4O6Mkns?si=CP_k80a9a9DVztgA Quote
mannc Posted March 20 Posted March 20 24 minutes ago, Brand J said: One disappointing first round pick for another: CB Kaiir Elam to Detroit for WR Jameson Williams. Who’s with me? They’ll never do it. Williams was starting to come around last year. I think he’s about to have a huge year… 13 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Jameson was hurt. Dudes gonna be great. There were a few plays last season where he absolutely abused defensive backs with his speed… Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 6 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: Adonai Mitchell would be unreal to get this guy at #28 if he is still in play. Or even move up to get this guy. Big, fast, unreal athleticism and can catch contested balls. They only worry can he play in the cold. Thats the big question. He smoked AJ Brown and Julio Jones in the 4.35 40yd. https://youtu.be/eTHx4O6Mkns?si=CP_k80a9a9DVztgA I always love this banter. If he is as good as you are saying then why would he make it to 28. Big fast athletic contested catch WRs at 6’2 don’t make it to the end of round 1. He also dogs his routes, doesn’t separate despite his unreal athleticism and offers mimimal YAC potential Quote
Dan in Owego Posted March 20 Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I always love this banter. If he is as good as you are saying then why would he make it to 28. Big fast athletic contested catch WRs at 6’2 don’t make it to the end of round 1. He also dogs his routes, doesn’t separate despite his unreal athleticism and offers mimimal YAC potential I may end up wrong, but this is my primary concern with Mitchell, don't really see the big dog mentality. Truthfully i think Coleman running a 4.6 may have helped get him to our pick, while i do have concerns over his separation, i do not over his big dog mentality on the field👊 1 1 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted March 20 Posted March 20 PFF out with their new mock that would have Bills fans slightly above average exited Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: I may end up wrong, but this is my primary concern with Mitchell, don't really see the big dog mentality. Truthfully i think Coleman running a 4.6 may have helped get him to our pick, while i do have concerns over his separation, i do not over his big dog mentality on the field👊 I think Coleman fits their type of player and wouldn’t surprise me if they take him in round 2 with a trade down or trade up. Norvell , who is big on culture, loved the guy. Great kid, supposedly a leader on the team, is a willing blocker. He needs to be better on contested passes but for some reason FSU didn’t highlight his whole route tree as FSU didn’t thrown between the hashes a ton 2 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) 13 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I always love this banter. If he is as good as you are saying then why would he make it to 28. Big fast athletic contested catch WRs at 6’2 don’t make it to the end of round 1. He also dogs his routes, doesn’t separate despite his unreal athleticism and offers mimimal YAC potential 13 hours ago, Dan in Owego said: I may end up wrong, but this is my primary concern with Mitchell, don't really see the big dog mentality. Truthfully i think Coleman running a 4.6 may have helped get him to our pick, while i do have concerns over his separation, i do not over his big dog mentality on the field👊 All of Mitchell's shortcomings are fixable with coaching. He can address his route running and I watched his highlights from Georgia to Texas clips on youtube, I watched games this year where he played and there was way more upside to this kid than a downside. The guy can cut make and defender trip over his own feet. With Samuel added for the slot duty and 0 to 20 yd pass zone. This guy on the outside of the field is a viable option. Not saying we are going to get him but he would be a nice add. Gabe Davis was a terrible route runner. He always F***ed something up on his route running and situational awareness on the field was almost non existent, plus he dropped balls all the time. This kid is a immediate improvement over Gabe. Edited March 20 by Toyo321 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted March 20 Posted March 20 2 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Jameson was hurt. Dudes gonna be great. Maybe. Talented knuckleheads have a long history of flaming out of the league before their time. Quote
HappyDays Posted March 20 Posted March 20 2 hours ago, Dan in Owego said: I may end up wrong, but this is my primary concern with Mitchell, don't really see the big dog mentality. Truthfully i think Coleman running a 4.6 may have helped get him to our pick, while i do have concerns over his separation, i do not over his big dog mentality on the field👊 Exactly. I for one am sick of watching our #1 WR get bullied against physical coverage in the playoffs. I want my #1 WR dishing out the bullying. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 @GunnerBill - you were talking about needing to see Legette in Round 1 Mocks to believe he's being considered there. Mel Kiper's latest Round 1 Mock had him. Personally, if we took a CB and our guy went the very next pick, my sobriety would be seriously tested. https://www.on3.com/pro/news/2024-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-makes-big-changes-in-updated-mock-draft-five-qbs-in-first-round-predictions/ 1 Quote
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