2024 WR Draft Class

[JaCrispy]

  On 2/21/2024 at 9:34 PM, OldTimer1960 said:

A lot of the guys you listed are interesting players, but not sure they can play outside where Gabe Davis played.  

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I’m not convinced Gabe Davis could even play outside…😉

 

 

Edited February 22, 2024 by JaCrispy

[BBFL]

  On 2/21/2024 at 11:57 PM, Augie said:

 

If @GunnerBill sees it as a real possibility, I give that some weight. 

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He was at the OLB position at Maryland so there’s that history he has. Anyone can shine or disappear in the NFL. But I take their word for it as since I’ve worked with those guys they’ve been spot on about everyone who was overhyped and wouldn’t pan out:

 

Hackenberg, Gross Matos, Austin Johnson, Odafeh Oweh(sp?), the DT the Falcons recently drafted just to name a few.

 

 

I know you can’t take a fans perspective as the be all end all but 2 of them played football collegiately at Penn State… One still close friends with Leonard Humphries if you remember that name… He’s told me that Lenny says he is still bummed out that he never got to play for the dynasty Bills 😂

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:17 AM, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Could you imagine us taking a DE and KC taking Franklin

 

 

 

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Why do Bills fans hate DE’s so much? Explain it to me. Please don’t say because they’ve drafted DE’s before.

[JaCrispy]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:50 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why do Bills fans hate DE’s so much? Explain it to me. Please don’t say because they’ve drafted DE’s before.

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It’s not that people hate them…It’s that the ones the Bills draft are never game changers…They are JAGs…

 

 

Edited February 22, 2024 by JaCrispy

[Solomon Grundy]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:50 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why do Bills fans hate DE’s so much? Explain it to me. Please don’t say because they’ve drafted DE’s before.

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I ❤ TJ Watt

[NewEra]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:17 AM, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Could you imagine us taking a DE and KC taking Franklin

 

 

 

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depends who’s available.  If Latu is available, I’d take him over Franklin and trade up in rd 2 for a WR.  

[MiracleAtRich1393]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:50 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why do Bills fans hate DE’s so much? Explain it to me. Please don’t say because they’ve drafted DE’s before.

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We get zero pressure on Mahomes no matter how much we invest. What DE at 28 is going to change that? There are plenty of WRs in this draft that can give us more than Gabe & Sherfield at outside WR2. And we need several to ensure we aren't an injury away from exactly what we had this year at the position or worse. That's an actual difference made when trying to get over the hump against KC

[DJB]

  On 2/21/2024 at 9:25 PM, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

Nice, where is this from? I'd be interested to see others like Malik Washington, Roman Wilson, Jermaine Burton, Ricky Pearsall, Malachi Corley, McCaffrey, etc.

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Found it on a dynasty website I follow. No link to a tweet unfortunately 

[BillsFanForever19]

  On 2/21/2024 at 8:54 PM, DJB said:

Drop rates for some top WRs in the 2024 #NFLDraft: 
• Johnny Wilson: 16.1% 
• Javon Baker: 10.6% 
• Devontez Walker: 8.5% 
• Troy Franklin: 7.3% 
• Keon Coleman: 7.2% 
• Marvin Harrison Jr: 6.9% 
• Ladd McConkey: 6.3% 
• Xavier Worthy: 5.4% MEDIAN DROP RATE
• Malik Nabers: 4.9% 
• Xavier Legette: 4.8% 
• Rome Odunze: 4.8% 
• Ja’Lynn Polk: 4.8% 
• Brian Thomas Jr: 3.8% 
• Adonai Mitchell: 1.7%

 

I’m going to keep saying it. A Mitchell at 28 Bills 

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Steve Smith called Adonai Mitchell a "90% Body Catcher". Looking at some of his highlights, I see what he means. Bit of a turnoff for me.

 

Though, look at that, Xavier Legette with a much lower drop rate than Franklin and Coleman. The more and more I read and see, the more and more he's becoming my odds on favorite to wear Red, White, and Blue.

Edited February 22, 2024 by BillsFanForever19

[BillsFanForever19]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:23 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:

nuclear meltdown here and rightfully so

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I don't see it as a possibility.

 

The only way I see us going DE is if there was an all time high run on WR's wherein a total of 7 (my current number of 1st Round caliber Outside WR's that I think Beane would consider) are taken before pick 28 and it causes a DE that should have been taken LONG before 28 is still on the board sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

But even then, that would mean Franklin wouldn't be available for KC. Though there is a very real possibility that Beane prefers a different WR to Franklin and chooses them instead, with Franklin then falling to KC.

Edited February 22, 2024 by BillsFanForever19

[John from Riverside]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:50 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why do Bills fans hate DE’s so much? Explain it to me. Please don’t say because they’ve drafted DE’s before.

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I don’t hate des  I hate the fact that we’re constantly tying up all of our money in the position.
 

All you have to do is take a look at that game against Kansas City, and all of the drop balls downfield that Josh Allen put perfectly into receivers hands

 

We should not have lost that game

 

Meanwhile, our defensive line was perfectly healthy and couldn’t get home

Edited February 22, 2024 by John from Riverside

[Solomon Grundy]

  On 2/22/2024 at 1:28 AM, NewEra said:

depends who’s available.  If Latu is available, I’d take him over Franklin and trade up in rd 2 for a WR.  

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Is he the guy that retired from football then returned? 

  On 2/22/2024 at 3:09 AM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Steve Smith called Adonai Mitchell a "90% Body Catcher". Looking at some of his highlights, I see what he means. Bit of a turnoff for me.

 

Though, look at that, Xavier Legette with a much lower drop rate than Franklin and Coleman. The more and more I read and see, the more and more he's becoming my odds on favorite to wear Red, White, and Blue.

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Justin Shorter was a "body catcher" too

[BillsFanForever19]

  On 2/22/2024 at 3:51 AM, John from Riverside said:

I don’t hate des  I hate the fact that we’re constantly tying up all of our money in the position.
 

All you have to do is take a look at that game against Kansas City, and all of the drop balls downfield that Josh Allen put perfectly into receivers hands

 

We should not have lost that game

 

Meanwhile, our defensive line was perfectly healthy and couldn’t get home

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I think I've replied to this before. While the sentiment that our DL didn't get pressure is fair - the "perfectly healthy" is not entirely accurate.

 

- Von Miller was not perfectly healthy all season. He, like Tre before him, was not close to himself upon returning from the ACL.

 

- Leonard Floyd was reportedly pretty banged up down the stretch.

 

- Daquan Jones was not the same guy he was when he came off IR. As Joe Buscaglia put it, he was "essentially playing with one arm".

 

- Jordan Phillips was lost for the year.

 

Relatively healthy? Maybe. "Perfectly" healthy? No. And with the guys we had playing injured or out completely at LB and CB - he was able to get the ball out fairly quickly on the regular, making it hard to get home.

 

  On 2/22/2024 at 3:55 AM, Solomon Grundy said:

Justin Shorter was a "body catcher" too

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And if AD Mitchell is available to Draft in Round 5 like Shorter was - by all means, take him.

Edited February 22, 2024 by BillsFanForever19

[John from Riverside]

  On 2/22/2024 at 3:47 AM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I don't see it as a possibility.

 

The only way I see us going DE is if there was an all time high run on WR's wherein a total of 7 (my current number of 1st Round caliber Outside WR's that I think Beane would consider) are taken before pick 28 and it causes a DE that should have been taken LONG before 28 is still on the board sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

But even then, that would mean Franklin wouldn't be available for KC. Though there is a very real possibility that Beane prefers a different WR to Franklin and chooses them instead, with Franklin then falling to KC.

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Good thing about this draft is that there are a lot of good wide receivers and yeah, I think Legette is a serious consideration
 

Steve Smith him to a certain wide receiver that plays for the Seahawks that we should’ve drafted

[NeverOutNick]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:50 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why do Bills fans hate DE’s so much? Explain it to me. Please don’t say because they’ve drafted DE’s before.

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If a DE could create separation and catch the ball in big playoff moments then I’m all for it 

[FireChans]

  On 2/22/2024 at 3:58 AM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I think I've replied to this before. While the sentiment that our DL didn't get pressure is fair - the "perfectly healthy" is not entirely accurate.

 

- Von Miller was not perfectly healthy all season. He, like Tre before him, was not close to himself upon returning from the ACL.

 

- Leonard Floyd was reportedly pretty banged up down the stretch.

 

- Daquan Jones was not the same guy he was when he came off IR. As Joe Buscaglia put it, he was "essentially playing with one arm".

 

- Jordan Phillips was lost for the year.

 

Relatively healthy? Maybe. "Perfectly" healthy? No. And with the guys we had playing injured or out completely at LB and CB - he was able to get the ball out fairly quickly on the regular, making it hard to get home.

 

 

And if AD Mitchell is available to Draft in Round 5 like Shorter was - by all means, take him.

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Did you notice you mentioned a bunch of old dudes? It’s because none of our drafted players have been good enough, which is why these ancient players have been brought in.

[pennstate10]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:44 AM, BBFL said:

He was at the OLB position at Maryland so there’s that history he has. Anyone can shine or disappear in the NFL. But I take their word for it as since I’ve worked with those guys they’ve been spot on about everyone who was overhyped and wouldn’t pan out:

 

Hackenberg, Gross Matos, Austin Johnson, Odafeh Oweh(sp?), the DT the Falcons recently drafted just to name a few.

 

 

I know you can’t take a fans perspective as the be all end all but 2 of them played football collegiately at Penn State… One still close friends with Leonard Humphries if you remember that name… He’s told me that Lenny says he is still bummed out that he never got to play for the dynasty Bills 😂

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I don’t think either Chop Robinson or Adissa Issac are first round talents. Both round 2-3 guys. 
 

Abdul Carter is moving to DE this coming year. HE is a first round edge player. 
 

Re: WR. If Franklin is there at 28, he’s a steal. Someone mentioned a similar skill set to Desean Jackson. I think this is mostly correct. Both smooth gliders. But Franklin doesn’t have Jackson short area quickness. 
 

[BillsFanForever19]

  On 2/22/2024 at 5:01 AM, FireChans said:

Did you notice you mentioned a bunch of old dudes? It’s because none of our drafted players have been good enough, which is why these ancient players have been brought in.

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That's fair. But I was merely responding to the point that our line was "perfectly" healthy.

Edited February 22, 2024 by BillsFanForever19

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:58 AM, JaCrispy said:

It’s not that people hate them…It’s that the ones the Bills draft are never game changers…They are JAGs…

 

 

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They’ve only drafted 1 edge player in the first round under McDermott.

 

Now they’ve draft 5 defense to 2 offense in the 1st. I think the major issues in the draft have been those 2nd-3rd round picks.

 

 

Edited February 22, 2024 by Buffalo_Stampede

[GunnerBill]

  On 2/22/2024 at 12:44 AM, BBFL said:

He was at the OLB position at Maryland so there’s that history he has. Anyone can shine or disappear in the NFL. But I take their word for it as since I’ve worked with those guys they’ve been spot on about everyone who was overhyped and wouldn’t pan out:

 

Hackenberg, Gross Matos, Austin Johnson, Odafeh Oweh(sp?), the DT the Falcons recently drafted just to name a few.

 

 

I know you can’t take a fans perspective as the be all end all but 2 of them played football collegiately at Penn State… One still close friends with Leonard Humphries if you remember that name… He’s told me that Lenny says he is still bummed out that he never got to play for the dynasty Bills 😂

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I have seen a few say Chop is a 3-4 guy only. That is not how I see him. I think he can play in a 4-3. He has the skillset to do it he just might not be the guy you want in on a lot of early downs as a rookie because he hasn't done much of it and has some room to work on diagnosing the run game and maintaining his gap discipline.

 

To be clear I wasn't saying I'd draft him for the Bills. But I can see him being their type. He is the definition of high ceiling and toolsy even if the production does not match the hype. With the exception of last year the Bills have gone for measurables and traits early in the draft. 

 

If it is not receiver (I think it will be) then when I look at the guys who are likely going to be coming off the board in that final 6 or 7 picks of round one area and think about combining what the Bills value with a reasonable need he is the guy that stands out as a possibility to me.