Bills to interview Thad Lewis for OC

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

My biggest concern with giving a guy that has such limited coaching experience an entire offense to run is how diverse will his play sheet and play calling be. Will he have enough credibility to have an offense buy into what he is preaching? It’s not as though he’s worked under some offensive gurus either.

 

Demeco Ryans became a coordinator after 3 years as a position coach and then a Head Coach after two years as a coordinator. Sean McVay had three years as a position coach before getting his OC gig too. Bryon Leftwich had one and a half seasons as a position coach before he became an OC. 

 

I don't think it is that rare now. Especially on the offensive side because the pool depletes so quickly.

Edited January 26 by GunnerBill

[HappyDays]

Beane may have slipped up in his postseason presser:

 

I hope this is not true and that Beane merely misspoke. I hope Brady is not getting handed the job without any kind of objective external interview process, even though I think he did a lot of good things.

[DapperCam]

2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Unfortunately we all know why this is happening.

Maybe he makes a positive impression and he gets a real crack at it when our next OC inevitably leaves for a HC job somewhere in 2.5 years.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

Beane may have slipped up in his postseason presser:

 

I hope this is not true and that Beane merely misspoke. I hope Brady is not getting handed the job without any kind of objective external interview process, even though I think he did a lot of good things.

 

I mean he is the obvious leader in the clubhouse. Might lead to the misspeaking. But Beane is a pretty straight shooter. He is telling you there that his expectations was Joe is the OC. I haven't watched Brandon's presser yet. Seen Sean's but it's been a busy week. And Brandon's is always an hour to savour because he pretty much tells you what is coming next in terms of moves. I'll settle down with a coffee tomorrow and enjoy it.

[BBFL]

2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Unfortunately we all know why this is happening.

Man that year had some crowd favorites; Manuel, Thad, Tuel. 
 

Remember, they benched Thad and we got the Tuel Time @ 6 the following week…

 

That was also Andy Reid’s first season in KC. 

 

😔
 

 

 

 

Edited January 26 by BBFL

[julian]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

Beane may have slipped up in his postseason presser:

 

I hope this is not true and that Beane merely misspoke. I hope Brady is not getting handed the job without any kind of objective external interview process, even though I think he did a lot of good things.

He did a great job under difficult circumstances, of course they’ve decided to promote him, they will take advantage of the mandatory interview rules to file away some names for future considerations.

[klos63]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Yea, experience is not why he's being interviewed by multiple teams this off season. But he does "check a few boxes". 

 

It's a good chance for him to get his name out there for the future, but most people I think would agree he's not very qualified.

Why not? QB coaches aren't qualified to be promoted to OC? 

[strive_for_five_guy]

45 minutes ago, phypon said:

Would you take Thad over Brady?  Do you give more credit to Thad than Brady?  So tell me your pick, Thad or Brady?  Those are your two choices and tell me why you are choosing one over the other.

Once I interview them both, I’ll let you know my decision.  Until then, I don’t know better than any other Joe Schmo on the street.  You apparently do though lol

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, klos63 said:

Why not? QB coaches aren't qualified to be promoted to OC? 

IMO, not ones that have such little overall coaching experience.

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Man that year had some crowd favorites; Manuel, Thad, Tuel. 
 

Remember, they benched Thad and we got the Tuel Time @ 6 the following week…

 

That was also Andy Reid’s first season in KC. 

 

😔
 

 

Don't think they benched Thad. Think he got hurt too. EJ and Thad were both out. 

[phypon]

5 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Once I interview them both, I’ll let you know my decision.  Until then, I don’t know better than any other Joe Schmo on the street.  You apparently do though lol

Don't worry, I didn't expect you to have an answer.  Others have actually answered and put thought behind it and actually were able to have a discussion.  You, you're just a blowhard talking out your a**.

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

IMO, not ones that have such little overall coaching experience.

 

Sean McVay had the same experience as an NFL position coach. Unless you think his one year coaching receivers for 6 games in the UFL made him uniquely more qualified? Because otherwise his experience on becoming an OC was the same as Thad's - two years as analyst / assistant; three years as a position coach.

[BBFL]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Don't think they benched Thad. Think he got hurt too. EJ and Thad were both out. 

Oh ok. I was under the presumption they benched him after all those fumbles which led to us getting blown out in NOLA…

 

I know Manuel came back as the starter the week after that KC game they put Tuel in. 
 

Thought it was just a switch to try something different for productivity. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Please let's not reminisce about those EJ/Thad/Tuel days. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BBFL said:

Oh ok. I was under the presumption they benched him after all those fumbles which led to us getting blown out in NOLA…

 

I know Manuel came back as the starter the week after that KC game they put Tuel in. 
 

Thought it was just a switch to try something different for productivity. 

 

From memory Thad was out. I think Matt Flynn was brought in to back up and Tuel started. It was 10 and a bit years ago though so memory might be hazy. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Sean McVay had the same experience as an NFL position coach. Unless you think his one year coaching receivers for 6 games in the UFL made him uniquely more qualified? Because otherwise his experience on becoming an OC was the same as Thad's - two years as analyst / assistant; three years as a position coach.

Pointing to McVay as the exception is like someone that uses Tom Brady as "the reason" 6th round draft picks are insanely valuable. 

 

Could Thad be special? Sure. Anything is possible. He could be some sort of wonder kid. But is that the guy you want running the offense on a team with Super Bowl goals? He ready to match up against the Spagnuolos and Anarumos of the NFL? Highly doubtful IMO.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Pointing to McVay as the exception is like someone that uses Tom Brady as "the reason" 6th round draft picks are insanely valuable. 

 

Could Thad be special? Sure. Anything is possible. He could be some sort of wonder kid. But is that the guy you want running the offense on a team with Super Bowl goals? He ready to match up against the Spagnuolos and Anarumos of the NFL? Highly doubtful IMO.

 

Demeco Ryans. Byran Leftwich. There are other examples too. It is not as rare these days as I think you might think it is. 

[klos63]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

IMO, not ones that have such little overall coaching experience.

But you really don't know if he's qualified or not.  Maybe the Bills know better

[Cash]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Last Bills game I attended was Thad vs the Bengals. Great game but sad ending. 

 

Not the most recent one, but I did see Thad duel Drew Brees in the Superdome back in 2017.  SPOILER:  Brees won the duel.

[Shaw66]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sean McVay had the same experience as an NFL position coach. Unless you think his one year coaching receivers for 6 games in the UFL made him uniquely more qualified? Because otherwise his experience on becoming an OC was the same as Thad's - two years as analyst / assistant; three years as a position coach.

As usual, you're on top of the detail.   Thanks for speaking up, here and earlier.  

 

The reality is that guys who have it just have it, and the actual pros in the league can tell whether they have it or not.  You mention Demeco Ryans.   Sean McVay was one.  Bill Belichick was one - lots of people knew who Belichick was, and that's why teams were fighting over him.  Terrell Bernard was one, too.  The Baylor head coach told McDermott that Bernard was one of those guys with a deep understanding of the game.

 

Some other guys get halos attached to their heads early, and then have trouble living up to it.  Kellen Moore, for example.  And, I think, Dorsey.  

 

I remember hearing that Mike Tomlin was just another guy to interview when the Steelers were looking for a head coach, and then he came in for the interview.   Blew everyone away.  

 

Beane knows what he's doing, and McDermott does, too.  When they interviewed Josh Allen, they knew pretty quickly he had the right stuff in his head.  If a young Sean McVay shows up in the interview room, they are not likely to miss it.