Bills to interview Thad Lewis for OC

[GunnerBill]

Just now, phypon said:

You already mentioned someone that is more qualified.  Do you really think that Thad is the most qualified minority candidate?  C'mon man.  

 

The most? No. But he is a legit OC candidate this cycle. It is not like they just picked a black guy and interviewed him.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, phypon said:

You already mentioned someone that is more qualified.  Do you really think that Thad is the most qualified minority candidate?  C'mon man.  

 

That "qualified" question was to @Bangarang regarding what available candidates are better qualified than Brady.

 

Nothing to do with whatever race rants yall want to go off about.

 

Edited January 26 by DrDawkinstein

[Bangarang]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Who would you like to see us interview that is better qualified?

Klint Kubiak if you’re looking for a name. It’s hard to be less qualified than a guy who only has 3 years of coaching experience, 2 of which were as an assistant WRs coach.

[phypon]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The most? No. But he is a legit OC candidate this cycle. It is not like they just picked a black guy and interviewed him.

First of all, I wasn't addressing you.  That's exactly what they did.  If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.  For a woke guy you sure seem to be asleep to me.  The guy has zero OC experience.

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That "qualified" question was to @Bangarang regarding what available candidates are better qualified than Brady.

 

Nothing to do with whatever race rants yall want to go off about.

 

You already answered your own question.  You're the one that is doing the "go off about".  Wake up man.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I honestly do not want Brady.  I want someone with more experience and although many rag on McDaniel for his HC gigs, the man has the experience, including working with Tom Brady and Superbowls. 

I wonder what Norv Turner is up to these days. 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

Klint Kubiak if you’re looking for a name. It’s hard to be less qualified than a guy who only has 3 years of coaching experience, 2 of which were as an assistant WRs coach.

 

Yeah, that's the only other one I've been able to dig up as well.

 

Not a ton out there.

[boyst]

Could also be to get a feel for him for the future. Maybe the new OC in TB won't want him and Thad and this culture put him into a QB coach position. Brady doesn't cut it and Lewis gets a shot. 

[Bangarang]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, that's the only other one I've been able to dig up as well.

 

Not a ton out there.

Jason Vrable is another. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

41 minutes ago, phypon said:

I also think it's disingenuous to minority candidates and a slap in the face to know you're only getting an interview based on the color of your skin.

Seems you’re the one discounting minority candidates’ resumes.  While it is true that the Rooney rule requires that a minority candidate be interviewed, even if Thad is the only minority candidate that the Bills interview for their open OC position, it is still a credit to Thad and his performance that he is getting the interview versus any other minority candidate.  And whether the Rooney rule exists or not, any interview is a chance for each candidate to make their case for why they would be the best candidate for the role and what they do with the offense which would be the differentiator versus the other candidates.  While Brady has a huge leg up on other candidates already, if Thad or whoever else really impresses the hiring powers, they could potentially land the job instead.  And worst case for Thad, he doesn’t get this job but is better prepped for future opportunities.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Jason Vrable is another. 

 

Funny enough he was an offensive assistant for us while Thad Lewis was playing 😆

 

I dont know that he has a better resume than Brady or even Lewis tho.

 

edit: But I appreciate the research and suggestion

Edited January 26 by DrDawkinstein

[Lost]

There are two schools of thought on this Rooney Rule business.

 

 

 

 

 

I personally agree that nepotism is a huge problem in the NFL coaching world but I would prefer teams just had a flat quota of qualified candidates that they must interview from outside the organization, not necessarily race based.   

[phypon]

2 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Seems you’re the one discounting minority candidates’ resumes.  While it is true that the Rooney rule requires that a minority candidate be interviewed, even if Thad is the only minority candidate that the Bills interview for their open OC position, it is still a credit to Thad and his performance that he is getting the interview versus any other minority candidate.  And whether the Rooney rule exists or not, any interview is a chance for each candidate to make their case for why they would be the best candidate for the role and what they do with the offense which would be the differentiator versus the other candidates.  While Brady has a huge leg up on other candidates already, if Thad or whoever else really impresses the hiring powers, they could potentially land the job instead.  And worst case for Thad, he doesn’t get this job but is better prepped for future opportunities.

I really hope you are joking.  See, here is the difference between you and me.  I'm not discounting him because he is a minority.  I'm discounting him because he has no OC experience.  We just went down that road with Dorsey and look how that turned out.  It's actually a disservice to Thad and somehow you can't see that and instead want to try to spin it into a feel good story.  I don't know what else to say to people like you. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I mean I wouldn't go with a first time OC myself but tell me what Duce Staley has done that gives you more confidence that he'd make a good NFL OC than Thad? Neither have ever been a coordinator. Thad has coached receivers and Quarterbacks. Duce has only ever coached running backs. For this offense with this QB I know which I'd consider a better fit. 

 

EB is a different case. He is qualified to do the job. As always the questions with EB have been about things off the field. 

You aren't wrong on Duce. The main thing he would be is experience in coaching and has from what I've seen always been a "players choice" type coach. That may not be enough, however it's free to look into. 

17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

For all we know we reached out to EB and he said "no thanks". I dont see him taking ANY interviews right now. So maybe he's waiting to see how everything falls into place.

 

Additionally, as far as the search is concerned, we've discussed it in other threads, but there really arent a ton of candidates out there in general.

 

With the acceleration of promoting Offensive coaches, it has pretty much created a talent vaccuum in that pipeline. Any OC worth a darn is already a head coach. Heck, teams already started promoting QB coaches who never called plays directly to Head Coach (Zac Taylor, LeFleur, etc)!

 

Outside of Klint Kubiak (another nepo cae btw) there arent that many promising, experienced Offensive coaches out there.

As for the above, all valid points. When it comes to interviews, we don't know what we don't know. I would say time will tell the tale. If it's a narrow net cast with 2 pretty green minority candidates announced and Joe Brady gets the job, I think it would be fair to think it wasn't a real OC search, though. 

 

The phone at OBD should be ringing pretty often at this point with OCs wanting to come.  There shouldn't be a shortage of interviews. I just don't want them to meet the bare minimum here. 

[RyanC883]

well, likely a Rooney Rule interview.  

 

If we go with someone who is not a proven OC, might as well go with Brady.  Unless Thad can bring Evans with him at a discount.  

[JoeF]

Thad!!!!  

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/buffalo-bills-quarterback-thad-lewis-magic-11608294

 

Man the drought years still had a few fun moments...

[Warriorspikes51]

10 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

well, likely a Rooney Rule interview.  

 

If we go with someone who is not a proven OC, might as well go with Brady.  Unless Thad can bring Evans with him at a discount.  

 

That would be quite a bonus

 

Diggs
Evans
1st Round WR
Shakir
2nd Round WR

BOOM 

[GunnerBill]

26 minutes ago, phypon said:

First of all, I wasn't addressing you.  That's exactly what they did.  If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.  For a woke guy you sure seem to be asleep to me.  The guy has zero OC experience.

 

 

He does have zero OC experience. But he has been successful coaching WRs and QBs. As far as candidates to be a first time OC in the NFL go Thad is totally legit.

[Heels20X6]

53 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

This same bad, tired argument every hiring season.

 

It is absolutely valuable to get interviewing experience and network-building opportunities.

 

I've literally been through this a number of times myself. Interviewing for spots I didn't really have a shot at, but turned into a great opportunity to get on the radar of executives and surprise/impress them.

 

When you approach it positively and graciously, it's a great experience and one of the best ways to build your career.

 

This is what people don't understand.  Even if Thad doesn't get the job, he has an opportunity to make an impression.  And if it's a really good one, the NFL networking could help him down the road.  "Hey you interviewed Thad, what did you think?"  "Man, he blew us away, we just wanted to keep consistent with our offense and stuck with Joe". "Cool, we're thinking of hiring him, thanks for the feedback".

[Bangarang]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He does have zero OC experience. But he has been successful coaching WRs and QBs. As far as candidates to be a first time OC in the NFL go Thad is totally legit.

His top 2 WRs are Evans and Godwin. It would actually be difficult to screw that up. Not exactly a young and raw WR room that needed coaching up.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Bangarang said:

His top 2 WRs are Evans and Godwin. It would actually be difficult to screw that up. Not exactly a young and raw WR room that needed coaching up.

 

Fair. But then his work with Baker is impressive. And we know former NFL QBs (even mediocre ones) tend to get a leg up when it comes to QB and OC coaching. Witness Ken Dorsey for instance.