Roundybout Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: Maybe Von should retire and take up painting! I want a buddy cop show where Von learns painting with George W. Bush 1 Quote
Philly McButterpants Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: Daquan Jones He's overlooked because of being primarily a run defender, but he is always doubled and frees up linebackers to make plays. He's what Star Lotulelei was supposed to be. Agreed, but also invisible last Sunday 😞 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Brandon said: Mario Williams was the closest they've had to that since the 90s. A truly dominant, disruptive pass rusher is the hardest thing to find with the exception of QB. It's not impossible to find one outside the top 10 picks, but the odds are definitely stacked against you. Greg Rousseau definitely isn't at that level, but the Bills are damn lucky he's as good as he is. I hope 5 sacks a year isn't "as good as he is"...... Quote
Brandon Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I hope 5 sacks a year isn't "as good as he is"...... I think he had a foot injury for awhile this year. Regardless, 6-8 per year is about what I'd expect of a 'good' LDE and I think Rousseau will likely average in that range yearly until age and injuries become a long term factor. That 20-32 area tends to be fool's gold when it comes to DE. Not always, but too many of them never do anything. I'm just glad Rousseau has been a productive starter. Quote
Sharky7337 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 All of the mario williams answers are wrong. He got bullied when games mattered. 2 hours ago, LarryMadman said: Aaron Schobel This is the answer. Quote
FilthyBeast Posted January 26 Posted January 26 I would say Mario Williams was the last great one, at least in terms of pass rush prowess. Defensive line as a whole has been a true enigma for this team in recent years, and another reason that McD's failures should be magnified even more: -Oliver: Lived up to the contract but completely invisible when it mattered most against the Chiefs -Miller: Started off last year strong but his injury rendered 2023 a wasted season. Ironically was really the only guy that showed up against Chiefs though. -Rouseau: Injuries have been an issue for him. Seems to be following Shaq Lawson trajectory as a great run defender but bust as a pass rusher which is what he was drafted for. -AJE: Has emerged as a solid rotational piece, but injury also slowed him down in 2nd half of season and likely going to get bigger deal elswhere in FA -Floyd: Was great in the first half of season but only had one sack in final 8 games including playoffs. -Jones: Has shown pass rush prowess but also has had injury history and didn't deliver when needed in playoffs either. Other than that expect more musical chairs with some of these other guys in the offseason, including Lawson and Phillips who it's probably time to move on from once and for all too. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said: Name Impact Play #2 from Kelsey. I didn’t say he had any. He was a fine rotation DE, that the Bills tried to make an every down starter Quote
babulator Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Mario Williams remains one of the most confusing Bills enigma's to me ever. Just the most physically impressive and dominant man "when" he felt like playing. I mean he could just manhandle grown a$$ men around like nothing. Yes, Bruce was the best, but Mario was just a completely physically imposing man, when he wasn't checked out. If we think Von's invisibility stints were bad, just remember watching Mario standing around play after play doing absolutely nothing. I don't think I've ever seen it before or since, completely checked out, standing around. I still have nightmares of watching him drop back into coverage too ??? WTF was happening.... like the twilight zone. 1 Quote
PonyBoy Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I know you are joking, but his tipped pass INT of Romo on MNF is still one of the most athletic plays I've ever seen a DL make Your post made me look up replay. Agree. Also realized we had John its not delivery, it's DiGiorgio on the team 😀 1 1 Quote
ProcessImproverMan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Aaron Schobel. Multiple pro bowler, had a significant games played/started streak, put up consistent sack numbers, and sacked Brady the most out of any player. Dude was the definition of a high motor impactful player that was largely underappreciated during the drought era. 1 Quote
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) BRUCE !!! Edited January 26 by Haslett_Stomp Quote
BBFL Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 4 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Mario Williams is probably the most talented guy from the last 20 years with Kyle following up. Mario/Kyle Williams is spot on. Maybe Schobel? Could add Jerry but I don’t think you can classify him as “great”. Edited January 26 by BBFL Quote
somnus00 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 4 hours ago, Maybe Someday said: Chris Kelsay Always loved the move when he would sprint 10 yards down the field, then, with the grace and agility of a row boat, would turn around to start rushing the QB. Quote
Livinginthepast Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, babulator said: Mario Williams remains one of the most confusing Bills enigma's to me ever. Just the most physically impressive and dominant man "when" he felt like playing. I mean he could just manhandle grown a$$ men around like nothing. Yes, Bruce was the best, but Mario was just a completely physically imposing man, when he wasn't checked out. If we think Von's invisibility stints were bad, just remember watching Mario standing around play after play doing absolutely nothing. I don't think I've ever seen it before or since, completely checked out, standing around. I still have nightmares of watching him drop back into coverage too ??? WTF was happening.... like the twilight zone. My memories of Mario Williams are tainted by the last 2 years here where he fell off a cliff in quality and became mostly irrelevant. The first 2 seasons he could be incredible in games and dominate. Dareus was a bust, Schoebel and Kyle Williams were pretty solid. Nothing compares to Bruce though. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Pat or Kyle Williams. We haven't had a dominant DE in like 20 years. Quote
par73 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Ted Washington and Pat Williams were a great interior duo. Quote
BearNorth Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said: This guy ... Best DT of his era, Knees gave out at the same time the Bills fell apart in the late 60's. 1 Quote
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