C.Biscuit97 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 44 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Mario Williams is probably the most talented guy from the last 20 years with Kyle following up. Dareus also could have been great (and probably still in nfl) he wanted it. He had a better 4 year start to his career than Warren Sapp. imagine that 2014 d line (4 guys with 10+ sacks) on this team. beane definitely is not great sr drafting d linemen. We need a game wrecker so badly. 1 1 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 25 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Man did he have a motor that wouldn't quit I believe only high-motor guys are allowed to also bring lunch pails to work, which explains so many football sayings! 🤔 Quote
transient Posted January 26 Posted January 26 50 minutes ago, Rich Stadium Original said: I think most would agree that to increase your odds of going to and winning a Superbowl you need a franchise quarterback. But I think what is often overlooked is the importance of that game changing defensive lineman that is so effective he disrupts games and has to be planned around...and can help close out a tight game in crunch time. I think all four of the remaining teams have one...and then I got to thinking, who was the last lineman for the Bills you could describe that way? Oliver showed flashes throughout the season, but was a ghost in the last playoff game. Was it Kyle Williams?...Jerry Hughes in his prime? Having a player like that won't win you playoff games by himself, but it certainly seems to be a key ingredient. Hard for the DL to be a factor with wide open WRs and TEs running all over the field for Mahomes to throw to. Ya gotta give them a little time to work. Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 50 minutes ago, Maybe Someday said: Chris Kelsay Someone forgot about Tim Anderson! Quote
Bruffalo Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Ed Oliver + Daquan Jones (when healthy) had absurd stats at the beginning of the season. Ed Oliver just had an undisputable excellent season (after signing a big contract, so that's even better). 3 Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 26 Posted January 26 BRUCE, arguably the best player the Bills have ever had. Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just now, Don Otreply said: BRUCE, arguably the best player the Bills have ever had. Bruce is the best defensive player the Bills ever had. OJ is the best offensive player the Bills ever had. Josh will probably replace OJ for best offensive player in Bills history, but I am not counting him yet as his career is still going. I am only picking retired players in Bills history. 1 3 Quote
MPL Posted January 26 Posted January 26 48 minutes ago, Rigotz said: We have a hall of fame defensive end currently on our roster. People can laugh about that all they want, but Von had 8 sacks through 11 games prior to injury last year. Before that, he was averaging 10+ sacks every year. That's rare and he will be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Let's hope he comes back at full strength next year, or even close. The book isn't closed on that yet. I guess I completely forgot Von Miller was on our roster 😂 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Great? Maybe not, but I wonder how Hughes would have mixed in with the defenses since he left. Quote
HardyBoy Posted January 26 Posted January 26 22 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dareus also could have been great (and probably still in nfl) he wanted it. He had a better 4 year start to his career than Warren Sapp. imagine that 2014 d line (4 guys with 10+ sacks) on this team. beane definitely is not great sr drafting d linemen. We need a game wrecker so badly. I do think with the rotation, sack rate as a function of pass rush situations is probably more important than just looking at sack count. Or maybe total team sacks, or total pressures in clutch pass situations. Quote
st pete gogolak Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: I know you are jQuoteoking, but his tipped pass INT of Romo on MNF is still one of the most athletic plays I've ever seen a DL make Name Impact Play #2 from Kelsey. Quote
Toomstone.Part.Duex Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Ed Oliver, Mario, Kyle, Schobel. I always liked the late 90's D with the "Jumbo Package" of Ted Washington and Pat Williams. With Sam Cowert in the middle LB spot that was a great D to witness. Quote
Rico Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: Name Impact Play #2 from Kelsey. Ryan Denney had more. Quote
UConn James Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Great? At DT, Ted Washington. No one has come anywhere close since. At DE Bruce, with an honorable mention to Mario Williams early on. Quote
Riverboat Ritchie Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Mario Williams was the last truly elite game changer we had up front. I think Ed was pretty close this past year. Yes Sunday was not a good game for him, but I have confidence he will build again next season. I wish Ed had a better game but chiefs interior line is really good. 1 Quote
dorquemada Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said: Man did he have a motor that wouldn't quit was he the original 'high motor, undersized DE' that we now assume will be our 1st-3rd round pick annually? 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted January 26 Posted January 26 43 minutes ago, Gregg said: Bruce is the best defensive player the Bills ever had. OJ is the best offensive player the Bills ever had. Josh will probably replace OJ for best offensive player in Bills history, but I am not counting him yet as his career is still going. I am only picking retired players in Bills history. Bruce had a longer amount of success so that's why consider him better than OJ. Yet if Josh keeps up.these 40 TD seasons he can pass Bruce in 4-5 years IMO. Quote
Roundybout Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Ed Oliver Marcel Dareus before the Captain Hat incident Kyle Williams Mario Williams before Rex Aaron Schoebel? Quote
Einstein Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Aaron Maybin! Most talented painter we've ever seen on the Bills DL Fun fact: Aaron Maybin averaged more QB hits per pass rush in his final season than Von Miller did this season. Quote
K D Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: Fun fact: Aaron Maybin averaged more QB hits per pass rush in his final season than Von Miller did this season. Maybe Von should retire and take up painting! Quote
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