Einstein Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: The Ravens beat the Lions 38-6 and beat the Niners 33-19 this year. They get by KC then they will be the favorites to win it all. Works for me. As long as KC loses, I don't care what happens after that. Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just now, Einstein said: Works for me. As long as KC loses, I don't care what happens after that. I don't want the Ravens to win either. I want them to win this week but not the Super Bowl. Then we will have to hear how LJ is a much better QB than Allen because he has a Super Bowl championship. I will be rooting for the 49ers or Lions in the Super Bowl. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 26 Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, Gregg said: I will be rooting for the 49ers or Lions in the Super Bowl. I know it sounds petty, but I kinda dont want the Lions to win. It would mean another team getting their first when the Bills still havent. 1 Quote
ToGoGo Posted January 26 Posted January 26 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: Irritating thing? If Allen played the way he does in the playoffs all the time, we would likely get the 1 seed every year and he would win MVP every year. The guy steps up when it matters. It’s not irritating, it’s a blessing. The team needs better talent to surround him with. Then you’ll start seeing all the accolades and trophies that everyone wants to see. 2 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Don't read the comments under the Tweet. I haven't, but I'm sure most of them are mocking Dak & Allen being there. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Sooo... with the voter already in, does this mean all 5 of these players received votes? Lest we forget Lamar was unanimous in 2019??? Pretty divisive this year Quote
Chicken Boo Posted January 27 Posted January 27 21 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Go back to the Ravens board. Truth hurts. 20 hours ago, Einstein said: How many of Lamar’s MVP’s have led to playoff wins? How many playoff wins did his lack of turnovers lead the Ravens to? Lamar was 1-4 in the playoffs going into this season. Allen has won more than double the playoff games Lamar has. If the Ravens offered Lamar and 5 first round picks for Allen, I would laugh and hang up the phone. Allen > Lamar. I’m just hoping Lamar can keep it together for 1 more game so I don’t have to see the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. MVPs are regular season awards. You know that. Quote
FireChans Posted January 27 Posted January 27 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sooo... with the voter already in, does this mean all 5 of these players received votes? Lest we forget Lamar was unanimous in 2019??? Pretty divisive this year They changed the voting system last year. Quote
DCofNC Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/25/2024 at 12:17 PM, Nklaiste1 said: Is this the weakest list of MVP finalists ever? Imagine, in a high scoring era like this, where a guy with 29 Total TDs is the front runner. Yes, this is WEAK. They should just call it “most popular QB of the year” award. 2 Quote
DCOrange Posted January 27 Posted January 27 6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sooo... with the voter already in, does this mean all 5 of these players received votes? Lest we forget Lamar was unanimous in 2019??? Pretty divisive this year Yes they all received votes. Not necessarily 1st place votes though. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 27 Posted January 27 22 hours ago, Gregg said: I don't want the Ravens to win either. I want them to win this week but not the Super Bowl. Then we will have to hear how LJ is a much better QB than Allen because he has a Super Bowl championship. I will be rooting for the 49ers or Lions in the Super Bowl. Burrow is already better than Allen in half the media's eyes because of one Super Bowl loss on his resume. If you don't want the media to gush over Lamar you better start hoping for a Ravens loss tomorrow. And Burrow doesn't even have two league MVP's like Lamar will. 1 Quote
ToGoGo Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Truth hurts. You wouldn’t know what truth looks like if it was right in front of you. 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 27 Posted January 27 It's pretty crazy to me how much group think there appears to be in the MVP voting process. I really don't get it. I'm not saying recent past MVP's didn't deserve their hardware. They absolutely did. But look at the percentage share of votes they get. Last year with the new voting system, Mahomes got 98% of the vote share. It absolutely did not feel like Mahomes season was that decisively above all the other candidates last year. Even with the old MVP voting most winners had 80%+ of the votes. Really surprised we don't see more winners in the 60% range. Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 It would be a farce if Jackson were to win MVP after today's performance. If they want to save the reputation of this award I hope they give it to CMC. In addition to his spectacular regular season with well over 2000 yards in 16 games he has had a very good postseason. Rushing = 37 carry's for 188 yards and 4 TD's and 11 catches for 72 yards. That's a total of 260 yards from scrimmage and 4 TD's in two playoff games. Quote
Jrb1979 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 18 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: It would be a farce if Jackson were to win MVP after today's performance. If they want to save the reputation of this award I hope they give it to CMC. In addition to his spectacular regular season with well over 2000 yards in 16 games he has had a very good postseason. Rushing = 37 carry's for 188 yards and 4 TD's and 11 catches for 72 yards. That's a total of 260 yards from scrimmage and 4 TD's in two playoff games. Playoffs don't matter when it comes to MVP voting. It's for the regular season. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Playoffs don't matter when it comes to MVP voting. It's for the regular season. Even so... Lamar shouldn't win. I would love a reasonable argument about why Lamar Jackson should win team MVP outside of "best record in the NFL." Quote
Jrb1979 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 18 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Even so... Lamar shouldn't win. I would love a reasonable argument about why Lamar Jackson should win team MVP outside of "best record in the NFL." I never said he should win. My point was a playoff game has no bearing on the MVP vote. IMO the only 2 that should be up for it are McCaffrey and Stroud. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 29 Posted January 29 So F'ing happy Lamar fell flat. He will go down as the biggest joke of an MVP in my memory. The Ravens signature win was against the 49ers and that was the game that won Lamar the MVP. And what happened in that game? The Ravens defense intercepted the 49ers QB's five times. Yeah, okay, Tyler Huntley could have won that freaking game. 1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said: I never said he should win. My point was a playoff game has no bearing on the MVP vote. IMO the only 2 that should be up for it are McCaffrey and Stroud. Why not Allen or Dak? Feel like if we are including Stroud, then Allen and Dak are also both reasonable candidates. Heck, I even think Lamar is a reasonable candidate. I just hate this crap where it seems like according to media (and they are likely right) that Lamar is a shoe-in and will probably win with 80 or 90+ percent of the vote share. To me that is ridiculous. If Lamar wins it should be a close vote. Quote
Jrb1979 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: So F'ing happy Lamar fell flat. He will go down as the biggest joke of an MVP in my memory. The Ravens signature win was against the 49ers and that was the game that won Lamar the MVP. And what happened in that game? The Ravens defense intercepted the 49ers QB's five times. Yeah, okay, Tyler Huntley could have won that freaking game. Why not Allen or Dak? Feel like if we are including Stroud, then Allen and Dak are also both reasonable candidates. Heck, I even think Lamar is a reasonable candidate. I just hate this crap where it seems like according to media (and they are likely right) that Lamar is a shoe-in and will probably win with 80 or 90+ percent of the vote share. To me that is ridiculous. If Lamar wins it should be a close vote. Allen has way too many INTs to be in the conversation. While Dak had good games, he still struggled against winning teams. The reasons I pick Stroud he carried a team to a division win that many thought would be a bottom 5 team. Add in him leading in TD to INT ratio, only throwing an INT on 1% of his passes. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said: I never said he should win. My point was a playoff game has no bearing on the MVP vote. IMO the only 2 that should be up for it are McCaffrey and Stroud. Wait... CJ Stroud???? No. Stop being a prisoner of the moment. He's absolutely ROY. Absolutely not MVP Quote
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