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1 hour ago, Trogdor said:

They split their regular season matchups and he owned him in college. The dude wins everywhere he goes and that's not debatable. 

They lost by 3 points lol did everyone just hallucinate? 3 NFC championships in 4 years is pretty good. Especially when you consider the Seahawks were monsters around that time. 


The NFC was soft as cheese and Seattle was still starting the corpse of Matt Hasselbeck at that time, IIRC. 

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35 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think there's a big difference between coaching a bunch of kids who are bigger, faster and stronger than everybody they play against vs. coaching a bunch of grown-assed millionaires in a parity driven league.

My expectation is a lot of turnover that will somewhat hamper the Chargers early, a year or two of contention with a really good roster and then the inevitable flameout when the players and a big chunk of the organization become sick of his idiocy.

Are you saying that Stanford was bigger faster stronger or Michigan? Do we just discount his 4 years in SF or his time in Oakland?

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38 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

He took an awful Stanford team and had the largest upset in history against USC and then the most points scores against USC in history 2 years later. Pete Carroll left for the NFL after that and USC hasn't been a legitimate contender since. Legion of Boom was 11-18 or 19, so all 4 of his years. "If he didn't completely rebuild the Michigan program they wouldn't have a Championship" ftfy. He had a proven track record in a way we could only wish. You're trying to downplay how big this is for the Chargers, but the weapons they have are dangerous.

If you want me to pick apart each one of these I will. Stanford alone was 0-12 before he took over that means if he won 1 game he doubled their win total in his first year. He’s a good a coach but he’s not this oh my goodness let’s hide under the table Jim Harbaugh is back in the NFL deal. He’ll make things interesting for Pat Mahomes but ultimately he’s going to have to settle for being a wildcard team every year as long as 15 in KC isn’t injured. 

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29 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

"Led them" to a Super Bowl is inaccurate, imo.

That was one of the most talent-loaded teams in the last decade and the majority of their success was a result of the work of Greg Roman and Vic Fangio.

The instant that talent began to thin out and Harbaugh could only get them to 8-8, they got him out of their organization as fast as they possibly could.

I think it's only a matter of time before this blows up in the Chargers' face.

 

Before Harbaugh, the 49ers hadn't made the playoffs in 8 years, and they were 39-73 the previous 7 season combined. So no, they weren't "loaded" when he got there.  Roman and Fangio came with him from Stanford, so how is it their work?

 

He took a 1-11 Stanford and turned them around when USC was at the top of college football, to the point he was beating them head to head.  

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14 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

Are you saying that Stanford was bigger faster stronger or Michigan? Do we just discount his 4 years in SF or his time in Oakland?

I was referring to Michigan.

And I don't put a lot of stock in his time at Stanford. He was 29-21. In the Pac-10. Not exactly setting the world on fire.

I already mentioned that I think he rode superior talent and good coaches at SF until they fired him at the first opportunity.

 

9 minutes ago, cle23 said:

So no, they weren't "loaded" when he got there.

 

They were absolutely loaded and being driven into the ground by Mike Singletary, Who was 8-8 the season before he got fired and who is sooooo bad that not only is he no longer welcome in the NFL, he was last seen coaching a HS team to a 1-21 record in his last two years.

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I know he’s a hard ars, but he’ll create discipline and that is needed in LA. Hopefully he can build them up to battle with the Chiefs.

 

On a separate note, god I hope the Ravens win this week.  I can’t handle the Chiefs in another SB.

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8 hours ago, Simon said:

 

They were absolutely loaded and being driven into the ground by Mike Singletary, Who was 8-8 the season before he got fired and who is sooooo bad that not only is he no longer welcome in the NFL, he was last seen coaching a HS team to a 1-21 record in his last two years.

 

Yea they were loaded. That is beyond dispute. He still did a very good job in San Francisco, but hat roster he inherited already had: Frank Gore and Joe Staley in their prime (both of whom will get HoF consideration at some point) plus Michael Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Mike Iupati and Delanie Walker. Then on defense he inherited Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks and NaVorro Bowman. Those guys were all there the day he walked through the door. And while Alex Smith at that point was considered a bust, and Harbaugh deserves credit for reviving him, he was still a former 1st overall pick. 

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11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Insane decision for him. His ego overran his common sense. He could have taken a ***** on the Dean's car at Michigan and they would have built him a statue all while cutting him a $125M check. Instead, he take a super high turnover job where his imagine as infallible will be questioned week to week by national reporters.

That said, it's an incredibly strong roster, so maybe he skates to a Super Bowl and retires as the greatest football coach ever.


I think your second paragraph perfectly explains why your opening sentence is wrong. 

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10 hours ago, Low Positive said:

Other teams will hire coaches, draft players and sign FAs. No need to freak out every time it happens.

This!

 

Every year teams make move and everyone starts freaking out. This is just another hire that the media will over hype all off season. This will be last year's Rodgers to the Jets. "Chargers are instantly a Super Bowl contender"

 

They really have a lot of work to do on the roster. The have a QB that has talent but looks about as interested in playing football as your basic 80 year old woman in a bingo hall.

 

In life the 3 guarantees are death, taxes and the Chargers Chargering. I expect nothing different. 

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19 minutes ago, Gugny said:


I think your second paragraph perfectly explains why your opening sentence is wrong. 

 

It is a strong roster but it has some holes and is old in some key spots. They have Herbert and they have their left tackle. At every other premium position they have a hole or a guy who will need replacing in the next two offseasons. 

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8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

This!

 

Every year teams make move and everyone starts freaking out. This is just another hire that the media will over hype all off season. This will be last year's Rodgers to the Jets. "Chargers are instantly a Super Bowl contender"

 

They really have a lot of work to do on the roster. The have a QB that has talent but looks about as interested in playing football as your basic 80 year old woman in a bingo hall.

 

In life the 3 guarantees are death, taxes and the Chargers Chargering. I expect nothing different. 

Obviously, you’re not intimately knowledgeable about old women’s interest in Bingo halls. They’re Very prepared, inspired and ferocious!

I know. I’m married to one.

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