hikerprof2 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 I wouldn't want Belichick, as it exacerbates a problem we already have. McDermott has been a defensive minded coach ; Belichick is even more disbalanced. We wouldn't get another wide receiver or players to compliment Josh. The offensive side of the game has passed Belichick by -he is a great D coordinator and a game-plan mastermind on that side of the ball, but his offensive success was nearly all Brady. It seems like other teams have passed on him. 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, hikerprof2 said: I wouldn't want Belichick, as it exacerbates a problem we already have. McDermott has been a defensive minded coach ; Belichick is even more disbalanced. We wouldn't get another wide receiver or players to compliment Josh. The offensive side of the game has passed Belichick by -he is a great D coordinator and a game-plan mastermind on that side of the ball, but his offensive success was nearly all Brady. It seems like other teams have passed on him. Yeah he'd be a good OC but he has now shown his toxicity on the other side of the ball. Obviously he's not taking an OC job anywhere so I really don't know if there is any place for him to go. Quote
stuvian Posted January 26 Posted January 26 It's starting to feel like the league has made an unannounced decision to wash its hands of BB. After the Spygate and Deflategate scandals, this is reminiscent of how Kaepernick has been dropped down the memory hole to the point where he was excluded from any mention in the 49ers official history. Maybe they feel he has damaged the shield . Quote
Success Posted January 26 Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, stuvian said: It's starting to feel like the league has made an unannounced decision to wash its hands of BB. After the Spygate and Deflategate scandals, this is reminiscent of how Kaepernick has been dropped down the memory hole to the point where he was excluded from any mention in the 49ers official history. Maybe they feel he has damaged the shield . Winning usually trumps all, though. I'm really mystified by the apparent lack of interest. The whole "he plays chess, everyone else plays checkers" thing is pretty accurate, imo. For many years, he was just head & shoulders above everyone else. He's not quite at that level anymore - but he's still a great coach. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Get him in as DC / Asst HC / Senior D Advisor He can really really help with the winning mindset and use what worked with Brady to help Allen excel even more 1 Quote
zow2 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 I put this in the McDermott thread but maybe it belongs here... Daboll is wearing out his welcome in NY. The Giants fire Brian Daboll.. The Giants hire Bill Belicheck who is itching to come back and has respect of the Giants ownership. The Bills fire McDermott and bring Daboll home to be head coach. The Josh/Daboll partnership is back together for a SB run. Would this work? 1 1 2 Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 33 minutes ago, Success said: Winning usually trumps all, though. I'm really mystified by the apparent lack of interest. The whole "he plays chess, everyone else plays checkers" thing is pretty accurate, imo. For many years, he was just head & shoulders above everyone else. He's not quite at that level anymore - but he's still a great coach. He is a terrible GM and shouldn't have control in that regard. That's the main reason the Pats are where they are. Also going from Brady to Jones is a huge drop-off at the most important position. No coach could overcome that. He is still an excellent coach. I have no doubt he would win a Super Bowl with the Bills having Allen as his QB. 1 Quote
dpberr Posted January 26 Posted January 26 If he coaches again, it'll be an interim position where a team underperforms in 2024 and he may pick up a few wins over 1.5 seasons using what they've got in house. (maybe Cowboys, Jags, Saints, Bucs) He's 72, and no team is going to invest in a 1-year coaching staff and no halfway decent coaches are going to sign up for a year just to get fired the following season. If he wants that wins record, he's going to have to compromise on the situation. Quote
extrahammer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 The way the chips are falling the Bills now have leverage for him just as a coach and can shut down any GM leverage Belichick had before Atlanta made their decision. Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, extrahammer said: The way the chips are falling the Bills now have leverage for him just as a coach and can shut down any GM leverage Belichick had before Atlanta made their decision. The Bills aren't firing McDermott so he's definitely not coming here. Quote
Buffalo Super Fan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, stuvian said: It's starting to feel like the league has made an unannounced decision to wash its hands of BB. After the Spygate and Deflategate scandals, this is reminiscent of how Kaepernick has been dropped down the memory hole to the point where he was excluded from any mention in the 49ers official history. Maybe they feel he has damaged the shield . Maybe but more likely Bill Belichick commands $25 million dollars a year. The wealthy in general are very cheap compared to a working class people that is one of the reasons they are wealthy. They use other people’s money over their own. Again in general terms. I think it’s a little of that, a little of Bill Belichick gets paid next year by the New England Patriots $25 million dollars weather he works or not. And don’t discount Bill Belichick might be trying to get GM power and bring his son in like the Patriots. That could turn a NFL owner off. Wait a year there are going to be more desperate NFL owners and Bill Belichick will land somewhere for one more coaching job if he wants it. Sitting out a year Bill Belichick may enjoy retirement it all depends on the individual in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote
extrahammer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: The Bills aren't firing McDermott so he's definitely not coming here. Yet here you are in this thread. Still my point remains. Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just now, extrahammer said: Yet here you are in this thread. Still my point remains. What I want and what will happen are two different things. I would love for Bill to coach the Bills but that's not happening right now. If the Bills have another playoff disappointment next year and Bill is still available, then maybe for the 2025 season. Quote
extrahammer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Gregg said: What I want and what will happen are two different things. I would love for Bill to coach the Bills but that's not happening right now. If the Bills have another playoff disappointment next year and Bill is still available, then maybe for the 2025 season. It's funny, because I didn't say it would or wouldn't. All I said was the chips are falling in a way that's already humbling Bill, especially regarding the GM piece he wants. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just now, extrahammer said: It's funny, because I didn't say it would or wouldn't. All I said was the chips are falling in a way that's already humbling Bill, especially regarding the GM piece he wants. As a previous poster mentioned if things don't work out for Daboll I could definitely see Bill going back to the Giants. He has history there as a DC. He liked coaching in NJ with the Giants. Quote
FilthyBeast Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, stuvian said: It's starting to feel like the league has made an unannounced decision to wash its hands of BB. After the Spygate and Deflategate scandals, this is reminiscent of how Kaepernick has been dropped down the memory hole to the point where he was excluded from any mention in the 49ers official history. Maybe they feel he has damaged the shield . I really doubt that. The cold hard reality with Belichik is that he's 72 years old and simply hasn't fared well post Brady. And that's why the best situation for him all along was team ready to win now with a franchise QB in place vs. a full blown rebuilding project which a lot of these openings during this cycle are. Also to compare a guy whose been to a combined 11 Superbowls and won 8 of them as a HC/Defensive coordinator to a clown that decided to brand himself as a social issue martyr because his pro football career was essentially over anyway makes zero sense. Bottom line we really don't know the full story and maybe the BB waffled on Atlanta and other openings anyway over the prospect of having to start over/move family at said age. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Giants could always do the "we're really having trouble getting coordinators to come in, plus it was a mess here last season" routine and still fire Daboll. More likely, though, is that Belichick is done coaching. Who is going to hire him next cycle when he'll be 73? Quote
Spiderweb Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/24/2024 at 4:39 PM, Success said: Hire the man! Time for the NFL to move on from the Grinch. Quote
Gregg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 26 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd hire him as DC. McDermott would **** his pants if Bill was his DC. No way Sean would hire him since he is way better at being a HC/DC. Not to mention he wouldn't be able to control him. Quote
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