How do you explain Diggs invisibility act

[cale]

I wouldn't be surprised if he is injured. But him refusing to talk or jetting out of the dressing room just exacerbates the situation. If you want to play the diva, you got to make plays like a diva. Also for the love of God, can we get a big WR who has sure hands. I mean Kincaid is kinda that. But a legitimate WR who can body up in the end zone. Also a speedster. Maybe Shakir is it. But we need someone who can make the other teams respect the quick, deep ball.

[BillsPride12]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

This was my thought too... but this should only apply to routes. He shouldn't be dropping balls that hits him in the hands because he has a nagging hamstring (for example).

I thought he might have been playing with bruised ribs just judging from his reactions to certain hits in that area....100% speculation on my part and I could be completely wrong but if it was something like that then I think that could contribute to dropped passes.  I actually don't think it was a hamstring because there have been plenty of times where he has been getting open where either Josh isn't getting him the ball or he's dropping the pass.  Just a very weird situation without knowing what is actually going on. 

[balln]

13 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Buffalo Bills last 10 games: 

 

Khalil Shakir - 38 targets 462 yards 

Stefon Diggs - 80 targets 422 yards

 

Gabe Davis gets most of the criticism on this board, but if we’re comparing contracts, Diggs is under-performing on a level I’ve never seen from a supposed top 5 WR who is not coming off any serious injuries. He also has a top 3 QB throwing to him. Shakir on the other hand is taking every opportunity he’s given and made some huge catches this post-season. Diggs has largely disappeared and is one the main reasons we lost against KC. We’ve won this year in spite of him, not b/c of him. I love what he’s done in re-establishing a top offense in Buffalo and greatly contributing to Allen’s development, but he’s hit a brick wall. His contract makes things really hard, but if we can unload him for anything then Beane needs to pull the trigger. This whole WR room needs to be destroyed & rebuilt. The money towards Von Miller and Diggs is killing the Bills. 

nobody to blame but Beane. He gets too attached to his players. Hes not cuthroat enough. I sympathize with him. He and MCD thought they would get to a super bowl the year after 13 second. And took a big swing (von and his contract). Gamble did not pay off. Additionally - they should have recognize how diggs completely disappears in the late half of the season and playoff games. I dont know how they would thought as hes turning 30 that this would IMPROVE. Hes hit the "age/athletic" wall. And then 

 

HE doubles down on keeping diggs around by extending him and von. thats the mistake. before you say well were in cap hell those contracts are the only way to be competitive - i hear that. But thats why you dont blow money on these special teams players that DONT even play when we get decimated in a position due to injury. 

[babulator]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

So you're of the mind that the moment that Brady became the OC that Diggs couldn't separate anymore?  

 

No, this is what I said.

 

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Diggs has been struggling to get separation in man to man. Brady focus's less on Diggs in his O (he likes the 2x TE set and is more run focused). This means less designed or schemed plays for him. Couple that with his drops, his age, and the emergence of Kincaid and it all just means less for Diggs.

 

It's not an attack on anyone, it's just the reality of the situation. Here's a decent break down as well.

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2024/1/24/24048105/stefon-diggs-and-the-second-half-of-the-season-what-is-happening-buffalo-bills-offense

Edited January 24 by babulator

[BuffaloRebound]

Occam’s Razor.  Everybody’s trying to win.  Diggs putting up big numbers at beginning of season wasn’t accomplishing that.  We won more games spreading it around and running it more.  Im sure Diggs wasn’t thrilled being less of a focal point but the Bills were winning and salvaging the season.  Diggs isn’t as good when he’s not used as much and 30 year old WR’s do tend to drop off.  

[balln]

diggs just doesnt seperate anymore speed or route running. hes adam theilen now. 

[Nihilarian]

Look back at that first game against the KC Chiefs in week 14. 

 

11 targets, and 4 receptions for 24 yards, that sucks. WoW.... a #1 WR that was owned by L'Jarius Sneed. 

 

Some on Buffalo stated that Diggs was doubled and the KC players stated that only Sneed was covering him.

 

We all love Stephon Diggs. But man, what's wrong?

[Nextmanup]

3 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

It really did seem like he was injured, but we haven't heard anything about that being the case yet. Extremely concerning if he in fact was healthy.

If he had been injured, we would know about it by now.

 

He had a disappointing end to the season, and dropped that 1 huge bomb in the Chiefs game, but I don't think he "quit."  That's kind of ridiculous.  

 

Is he getting older? Yes.  Is that going to have a serious impact on his game next year and beyond?

 

I don't know.  Have to see.  Glad he's still here.

Having said that, if he could be packaged in a blockbuster deal that brought real quality back, I'd definitely consider it seriously.

 

 

[Dick_Cheney]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

If he had been injured, we would know about it by now.

 

He had a disappointing end to the season, and dropped that 1 huge bomb in the Chiefs game, but I don't think he "quit."  That's kind of ridiculous.  

 

Is he getting older? Yes.  Is that going to have a serious impact on his game next year and beyond?

 

I don't know.  Have to see.  Glad he's still here.

Having said that, if he could be packaged in a blockbuster deal that brought real quality back, I'd definitely consider it seriously.

 

 

I agree. I'm not opposed to trading him, although most everyone says it's impossible due to his cap impact. Not sure if there's any way to work around that, but I do believe he's replaceable for the right price.

[PBF81]

42 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

well I’m at drs now discussing surgery so it’s gonna be a while. 

 

Hope things are OK.  

 

Yeah, that'd be great.  We can discuss it then.  See what the methodology for the analysis was.  

 

 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

Hope things are OK.  

 

Yeah, that'd be great.  We can discuss it then.  See what the methodology for the analysis was.  

 

 

 

Honestly this might take me a couple days.  I'll DM you when I get around to it or I can just @ you here.

[C.Biscuit97]

With Hill (he was hurt), it does think that maybe the smaller number 1s can be neutralized in the playoffs. Personally, I always prefer the Mike Evans type but with the new rules, smaller route runners can dominate. But when the games become more physical, it would be nice to that number 1 guy who is open even when he isn’t open. 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, UConn James said:

It’s a bit sickening that the Vikings picked Justin Jefferson with the pick we traded to get Diggs.

We handed Mahomes to KC.  We handed Jefferson to Minny.  We're all about giving. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

2 possible things imo.

 

1.  He's truly hampered by the ab injury

2.  He's toast

 

Hopefully #1

[Maine-iac]

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Easy.

 

150+ targets the last 3 years is a LOT of wear and tear on the body, it caught up at the end of the year.

 

I’m sure he will be good to start the year, but Bills should definitely spread it out more. 31 is too old for 150 targets a year. 

[harmonkillebrew]

coaching, age, lack of complementary weapons

[PBF81]

39 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Honestly this might take me a couple days.  I'll DM you when I get around to it or I can just @ you here.

 

Yeah, no hurry.  We're all busy.  It's not as if bickering amongst ourselves is a priority.  LOL  

 

I sincerely hope that you're doing OK.  

 

  

 

Edited January 25 by PBF81

[T.E.]

Diggs' brother continously disparaged the team and Allen, his most important coworker. If your little brother publicly did this to you with your job, you'd nip that in the bud pretty damn quick, right? He never did.

 

At best, Diggs allowed it to happen. At worst, he used his brother as a mouthpiece to say the things he wanted to say bit couldn't. Speaks volumes.

Edited January 25 by Patrick Fitzryan

[Boatdrinks]

Seemed to have the dropsies since middle of October.