D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) NOT!!!! another narrative debunked. Playoff performance all time Edited January 24 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 1 1 3 3 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 (edited) 23 minutes ago, boyst said: Wins > INT's Wins are a team stat not an individual stat and you know it Edited January 24 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 4 2 4 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted January 24 Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, boyst said: Wins > INT's But aren't people like you always telling us that Allen's TO' prevent wins? So which is it? 1 2 Quote
boyst Posted January 24 Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: But aren't people like you always telling us that Allen's TO' prevent wins? So which is it? huh? 18 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Wins area team stat not an individual stat and you know it i do. and interceptions are not on a QB alone. I don't care about most INT's. 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted January 24 Posted January 24 He's clearly too conservative and careful with the ball for us to take the next step. 7 Quote
Bills Posted January 24 Posted January 24 A lot of those turnovers are the fault of his receivers. Not saying Allen doesn’t deserve criticism for his bone headed decisions, but more of it should be placed on those guys. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 24 Posted January 24 15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: But aren't people like you always telling us that Allen's TO' prevent wins? So which is it? Josh’s turnovers led to key losses in the regular season, which cost us the chance to rest players in week 18 or potentially get a bye, which led to increased player injuries and an eventual playoff exit. Josh did not have any turnovers this postseason, but while AJ Klein was trying to cover Travis Kelce, all I could think about is the offense turning it over twice in 30 seconds against the Broncos with 1 min left in the half and Josh throwing 3 picks to Jordan Whitehead. 1 3 2 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Bills said: A lot of those turnovers are the fault of his receivers. Not saying Allen doesn’t deserve criticism for his bone headed decisions, but more of it should be placed on those guys. That my friend is very debatable in the playoffs. His team and his coaching staff hasn't been good enough 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Josh’s turnovers led to key losses in the regular season, which cost us the chance to rest players in week 18 or potentially get a bye, which led to increased player injuries and an eventual playoff exit. Josh did not have any turnovers this postseason, but while AJ Klein was trying to cover Travis Kelce, all I could think about is the offense turning it over twice in 30 seconds against the Broncos with 1 min left in the half and Josh throwing 3 picks to Jordan Whitehead. You're kidding right? extrapolating out that way and ignoring that we were the number 2 seed playing at home is suspect 1 Quote
LarryMadman Posted January 24 Posted January 24 34 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: NOT!!!! another narrative debunked. Playoff performance all time Holy smokes, Jim Kelly didn't make the list. Quote
TheBrownBear Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Just now, LarryMadman said: Holy smokes, Jim Kelly didn't make the list. Kelly threw a ton of picks in the playoffs. 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 24 Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: Josh’s turnovers led to key losses in the regular season, which cost us the chance to rest players in week 18 or potentially get a bye, which led to increased player injuries and an eventual playoff exit. Josh did not have any turnovers this postseason, but while AJ Klein was trying to cover Travis Kelce, all I could think about is the offense turning it over twice in 30 seconds against the Broncos with 1 min left in the half and Josh throwing 3 picks to Jordan Whitehead. this is pure gold. well done. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 24 Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: That my friend is very debatable in the playoffs. His team and his coaching staff hasn't been good enough You're kidding right? extrapolating out that way and ignoring that we were the number 2 seed playing at home is suspect I think we beat KC if we were the one seed and had the bye instead of playing the Steelers. Benford, Diggs, Spector, Martin, Bernard were all hurt in that game. 1 1 Quote
LarryMadman Posted January 24 Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: I think we beat KC if we were the one seed and had the bye instead of playing the Steelers. Benford, Diggs, Spector, Martin, Bernard were all hurt in that game. Lol, so the Bills would have had to have 3 more wins and the tie breaker to get the one seed over the Ravens who wouldn't have rested and would have won last games vs Steelers. All to lose in division round again making McDummie look even worse than he does now. 1 1 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 24 Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, LarryMadman said: Holy smokes, Jim Kelly didn't make the list. True and you cannot compare 40 years ago to today 2 Quote
zow2 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Shoulda beat KC twice and been in two more AFC Championship games.. ugh. Josh doesn't deserve to be saddled with the curse that hovers over our city. He's a good man and a great QB. A HOF'er. 3 2 1 Quote
QB Bills Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I feel about as bad as one can feel for a guy making 45 million dollars a year. Josh has to be just about perfect for his team to have a chance against a good opponent in the playoffs because his coach and his defense will inevitably choke and even then it's not enough. He has zero margin for error whereas guys like Mahomes can miss wide open TDs like he did early Sunday and not have to worry because the rest of his team will pick up the slack. Allen is the best QB in the league and if he had any kind of competence patrolling the sideline, he'd have a super bowl or two by now. 7 1 2 1 Quote
PBF81 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Not sure that there's much wiggle room for critizing Allen. He's the only reason why we've made the playoffs on McD's watch. His running game in particular. His passing game is being suppressed in the interests of "complimentary football." The fact that he's done and doing what he's done and does with the absolute minimal level of support from Beane to date, while he and McD perpetually tinker with McD's mentally unhealthful pet D, is remarkable in and of itself. Anyone criticizing Allen, at all, doesn't have a clear picture of what's going on with the team. 3 5 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 24 Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, LarryMadman said: Lol, so the Bills would have had to have 3 more wins and the tie breaker to get the one seed over the Ravens who wouldn't have rested and would have won last games vs Steelers. All to lose in division round again making McDummie look even worse than he does now. Or we could have had the division locked up and rested starters week 18 like the Chiefs did. Food for thought. 3 1 Quote
BBFL Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Those Mahomes and Brees stats are wild for only playing 6 and 8 more games than Josh. For some reason I thought he would have more passing yards than 2700. I guess it’s balanced out by the rushing yards… Yeah, Pat isn’t that far behind him. Would never have anyone other than Josh until he retires but I get why people are so enamored and infatuated with Mahomes being the best. Stats and accolades give legitimate cause. 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: Or we could have had the division locked up and rested starters week 18 like the Chiefs did. Food for thought. Don’t believe the rest would have made that much difference. We had our bye-week @ 13… Only 2 teams had anything later; Cardinals & Redskins. I’d argue that having home field given the travel reduction is a bigger advantage than a week of rest… Thats just me though. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote
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