3 KC Chiefs Fans Found Frozen to Death after Charger game

[Fleezoid]

This was a bet (probably started by the homeowner) to see who could stay outside the longest. They all lost. 

 

Or won, depending on how you look at it.

 

 

Edited February 2, 2024 by Fleezoid

[The Frankish Reich]

7 minutes ago, Beast said:

And there is only one person that knows that. These cases are a lot harder to prove than people realize. I know this directly from my profession.

 

It is rare when people are charged in these sort of cases. It sounds as if the guy whose house it was at is lucky he didn’t croak himself.

We had a case in Colorado where 5 people died in an apartment from fentanyl overdoses. They got together to snort some lines of coke. It was cut with fentanyl somewhere along the distribution chain. My guess: something like that happened in KC. And yes, good luck tracing the distribution chain.

[Seventeen]

2 hours ago, boater said:

 

RIP fellas.

 

I'm so glad I don't partake. The words "Hey Babe, you wanna do some lines, possibly laced with Fentanyl, then watch the game while stoned?" will never cross my lips.

 

How can you appreciate the nuances of football while stoned or ripped-drunk? There's only 17+ games a year, I want to appreciate every play.

 

Game was apparently over - other friend that left said they were watching Jeopardy.

[rusty shackleford]

3 hours ago, boater said:

 

RIP fellas.

 

I'm so glad I don't partake. The words "Hey Babe, you wanna do some lines, possibly laced with Fentanyl, then watch the game while stoned?" will never cross my lips.

 

How can you appreciate the nuances of football while stoned or ripped-drunk? There's only 17+ games a year, I want to appreciate every play.

During the drought years there wasn't a whole lot of nuanced Bills football to appreciate. Had seasons for a number of years during that stretch while in college and shortly after. We would spend a lot more time drinking and eating than paying attention to the game. Hours later having conversations about the game with friends and family that were sober during it and would have no idea what they were talking about but would just nod and go along with it. 

 

"Can you believe they called pass interference on the second play of the half?" Me, "yeah that was ridiculous." But in my head: Did we win?

[May Day 10]

39 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

 

Game was apparently over - other friend that left said they were watching Jeopardy.

 

I have done a lot of partying in my day.

 

Never watched Jeopardy at 11PM though.  Ha.

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

This actually happened to me at Bills games. Twice about a year apart. It was terrifying for my family.  I entered rehab and have been in recovery for quite a while now. 
 

I share that only because my experience is that addiction makes otherwise normal people do astoundingly stupid things, often life-threatening.  It doesn’t reflect on the person’s value as a human being. Once drugs and alcohol are involved, all rational choice is lost. 

Brave of you to admit that and good luck on your ongoing trip to sobriety.

[ddaryl]

3 hours ago, Beast said:

Why would he go to jail unless he held the other three down and forced them to ingest the drugs or he knew the fentanyl content? Who knows who brought the drugs there to begin with.

 

 

Because maybe he created the cocktails and offered it to them. They have arrested others for this 

[TheBrownBear]

4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Using illegal drugs has always had some element of danger in it. What's it cut with?  Does something in it that we're not aware of interact with alcohol? Who knows?

But this is now a new and incredibly dangerous thing, lacing all kinds of drugs - pills, powders, whatever - with fentanyl. Ahh, the good old days when the worst that could happen is that you'd buy some inert crap....

That's why people should always use a test kit before partaking in recreational substances.  Also, doesn't hurt to have some narcan around.

[Beast]

5 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Because maybe he created the cocktails and offered it to them. They have arrested others for this 

And they willingly took them?

 

Good luck trying to prove the guy not only supplied the lethal drug, but that he mixed the fentanyl into the drug and, if he did, he has scientific knowledge of what would cause a lethal dose.

 

Unless this guy admits to a whole lot they probably aren’t going to have ***** to charge him on.

 

Thousand and thousands of people die from fentanyl OD’s in this country and very, very few are charged in connection with those deaths. There are good reasons why.

[BillsFanForever19]

I had a couple friends that were addicted to Oxy. I kept telling them to get clean and not buy anything off the street. They went to bed one night and didn't wake up the next morning.

 

Since Doctors stopped prescribing Hydrocodone and Oxycontin - most of the pills on the street are Fentanyl being passed off as Prescription. The tiniest amount and it's game over. The difference between a non lethal dose and a lethal dose is RAZOR thin. And the people cutting it aren't exactly careful.

 

Don't do pills in today's day and age, kids. As soon as I heard this story, I knew it was Fentanyl. 3 different people don't just OD all at the same time any other way. 

Edited February 3, 2024 by BillsFanForever19

[stuvian]

I can understand drinking yourself to death watching football but not to watch the Chargers

Edited February 3, 2024 by stuvian

[Just Jack]

An update...

 

Charges filed in deaths of 3 Kansas City Chiefs fans whose bodies were found in friend's backyard | AP News

 

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Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson are each charged with three counts of involuntary manslaughter and two counts of delivery of a controlled substance in a case that gained widespread attention on social media.

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A doctor with a forensic lab later determined that the combined toxicity of fentanyl and cocaine killed them, according to the probable cause statement.

 

 

[Blank Stare]

32 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

An update...

 

Charges filed in deaths of 3 Kansas City Chiefs fans whose bodies were found in friend's backyard | AP News

 

 

 

On 2/2/2024 at 12:32 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

We had a case in Colorado where 5 people died in an apartment from fentanyl overdoses. They got together to snort some lines of coke. It was cut with fentanyl somewhere along the distribution chain. My guess: something like that happened in KC. And yes, good luck tracing the distribution chain.

[Jauronimo]

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The witnesses said Willis had a history of offering cocaine to his friends when they were low on money and that he bought it from Carson, according to the probable cause statement.

No good deed goes unpunished.

[The Tomcat]

I've heard that just a tiny amount, like the tip of a pencil, of fentanyl can be deadly, but in every drug bust, they seem to find full-sized pills. If there are so many pills out there, why aren't we seeing millions of deaths? I know the death toll is still high, but I'm curious — is the idea of the pencil tip just a way to emphasize the danger? After all, a single pill contains more than just that small amount.  

 

 

 

[uticaclub]

That sucks, he was the guy with the girl that didn't care if they did some blow. He had the tolerance and just slept for 2 days, all his friends didn't and died.

1 minute ago, The Tomcat said:

I've heard that just a tiny amount, like the tip of a pencil, of fentanyl can be deadly, but in every drug bust, they seem to find full-sized pills. If there are so many pills out there, why aren't we seeing millions of deaths? I know the death toll is still high, but I'm curious — is the idea of the pencil tip just a way to emphasize the danger? After all, a single pill contains more than just that small amount.  

 

 

 

Tolerance levels

Edited Thursday at 07:18 PM by uticaclub

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I once drank a 750ml bottle of Jack at a party at a friends house. It snowed 8 inches that day and he had a hot tub running with an outdoor bar area. I was pissing on the side of his house we I fell over a small bush and passed out in the snow. Woke up in the same spot in the morning with frozen vomit all over the place. I remember throwing up 22 times that morning, I couldn’t hold down water or food for like 6 hours. I will never do that again.

[GETTOTHE50]

1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I once drank a 750ml bottle of Jack at a party at a friends house. It snowed 8 inches that day and he had a hot tub running with an outdoor bar area. I was pissing on the side of his house we I fell over a small bush and passed out in the snow. Woke up in the same spot in the morning with frozen vomit all over the place. I remember throwing up 22 times that morning, I couldn’t hold down water or food for like 6 hours. I will never do that again.

[That's No Moon]

44 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

I've heard that just a tiny amount, like the tip of a pencil, of fentanyl can be deadly, but in every drug bust, they seem to find full-sized pills. If there are so many pills out there, why aren't we seeing millions of deaths? I know the death toll is still high, but I'm curious — is the idea of the pencil tip just a way to emphasize the danger? After all, a single pill contains more than just that small amount.  

 

 

 

Because, like most pills, there is a significant amount of filler material that isn't the medication in order to make the pills larger, bind together into a pill form, etc. 

 

When making these sorts of things if you don't have a consistent homogenization of ingredients you will have some pills with too much of the medication and some with too little. The margin of error in fentanyl is very small and the people making the pills don't have the same quality control as say an actual oxycontin factory would. When they have hot pills come out people die even if they are taking their usual dose.

[RoyBatty is alive]

48 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I once drank a 750ml bottle of Jack at a party at a friends house. It snowed 8 inches that day and he had a hot tub running with an outdoor bar area. I was pissing on the side of his house we I fell over a small bush and passed out in the snow. Woke up in the same spot in the morning with frozen vomit all over the place. I remember throwing up 22 times that morning, I couldn’t hold down water or food for like 6 hours. I will never do that again.

Reminds me of the death of Matt Simmons an icon in the oil and gas finance industry.  He had a vacation house in Maine and passed out in the outdoor hot tub that had and drowned.  He wasnt discovered for several days but apparently the hot tub kept running till it finally shut down.  He was found like a piece of meat, all the body fat had been poached out till the tub stopped working, they found him under layers of congealed fat.

 

One of my "favorite" stories, besides I didn't much like him.  Visualize that, who go the lucky job of cleaning that out.