Beane & McDermott end of season press conferences

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

I just keep thinking about 'continuity' and the idea that this regime deserves to be here no matter what but then I look at a team like the Texans who picked #2 overall in the draft last year because they were terrible and then just one year later with a rookie head coach and QB had the same exact success and Beane and McDivisionals Bills.....a division title and losing in the divisional round.

 

So again, what am I missing here....or more importantly what is Terry Pegula missing seeing other teams do this year after year so quickly?

 

After the Chiefs game I gave "amnesty" to ALL ignored posters on my list.  I can see you will be back on it soon.

 

For every "Texans" quick turnaround there are a dozen teams that don't.  I do remember posts of yours, very recently, touted teams

like the Chargers being so much better run and coached that the Bills. 

 

How did that work out for you?  Go and post on the fish boards.

You are a troll.

[uticaclub]

I felt better and more positive when I woke up this morning. Then I heard the pressers and can't help but think a change of culture is NEEDED

[Niagara Dude]

I was pleased to hear McDermott admit that passing is how win,  still need to run the ball but it's about passing the ball.

[Allen2Moulds]

43 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I mean I get the want, and it would be nice, but its also not as important as people make it out to be.  WR's who have great hands and get great separation are more reliable and impact the game more than a guy who can catch 1 or 2 jump balls.  

 

Plus, Josh has a big go up and get it target in Kincaid, so for me, I would rather see us get a guy who can help stretch the field and be a true deep threat than just a big guy.  And if that stretch the field guy also happens to be big, then even better, but I want guys who consistently get open and catch the ball and not drop it more than I want size.  

 

Don't get me wrong, I am not against adding size at all, just don't want to force size over someone who may be a better overall WR at catching and getting open.

We need a Tee Higgins type of clone.

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I wouldn't say he has never had one though to be honest...Diggs was the number 1 deep ball WR in the NFL when we traded for him.  He may not be big, but he played big.  Then Davis has been a big target for him too.  

 

But Davis gets back to my original point where as I would rather have someone who consistently gets separation and always catches the ball then just a guy who has some occassional big jump balls.  Davis only value was really on those straight line deep balls, and because of that he would disappear or barely factor in most games and then have a couple big games where he had those big downfield catches for TD's.  

 

Again, don't disagree it would be nice, I just don't want another Davis...if we bring some big target in, they need to be more reliable than Davis was.  

 

First off, thanks for being open to my opinion, even if you see it differently.

Diggs is still a deep threat, just not the "type" WR I'm talking about.

I will admit there was a time when I thought Davis could fill that role, but it never materialized.

 

We (at least most) Bills fans want 2 new outside WRs this coming season.  I already said what I think one should be, the other is a speedy

guy with separation skills.  Maybe we can compromise on that!  LOL.

[phypon]

2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I was pleased to hear McDermott admit that passing is how win,  still need to run the ball but it's about passing the ball.

Weird that he said that since they've run the ball more the last half of the season.  Also, lot of running plays and plays behind the line of scrimage Sunday.  

 

Not going after you with this reply.  Just pointing out the contradiction.  Maybe he figured this out after the loss.  Let's see what he does next year.

[CNYfan]

So much cynicism.   

I think that this is a good organization, with top notch individuals at the helm.  

 

Not being perfect myself, I respect the grade of work.   

[ColoradoBills]

Just now, phypon said:

Weird that he said that since they've run the ball more the last half of the season.  Also, lot of running plays and plays behind the line of scrimage Sunday.  

 

Not going after you with this reply.  Just pointing out the contradiction.  Maybe he figured this out after the loss.  Let's see what he does next year.

 

Davis, Sherfield and Harty were not the answers.  Have to reload at get the right WRs this year.

[Back2Buff]

This reminds me of the end of the year presser with Kevyn Adams and Granato last season.  No commitment to any type of improvement.

 

Going to be difficult to even care next year.  I would rather they strip it down and absolutely suck next year then continue on this continued patch work because of the salary cap.

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

After the Chiefs game I gave "amnesty" to ALL ignored posters on my list.  I can see you will be back on it soon.

 

For every "Texans" quick turnaround there are a dozen teams that don't.  I do remember posts of yours, very recently, touted teams

like the Chargers being so much better run and coached that the Bills. 

 

How did that work out for you?  Go and post on the fish boards.

You are a troll.

Valid point. He's cherry picking for sure. However, it's extremely disappointing that the Bills have lost three straight divisional round playoffs games. Two of which were at home. 

 

Something has to change because I don't think any Bills fans are happy with this. 

 

With respect, I ask what's going to be different year? What makes you think the Bills will advance to at least the AFC Championship game? 

 

Miami gave the Bills all they could handle. Cinci with a healthy Burrow seems to be a poor matchup for Buffalo. KC seemingly owns the Bills.

 

I expect another playoff appearance for Buffalo but beyond that I have some serious doubts. 

 

Am I on that list? 

[78thealltimegreat]

33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It's slim pickins, for sure. A couple of us did some digging in a previous thread. Best outside candidate I can come up with is maybe Klint Kubiak.

Two words Kliff Kingsbury 

[newcam2012]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Davis, Sherfield and Harty were not the answers.  Have to reload at get the right WRs this year.

They certainly did not contribute much to the offense. That was very disappointing. 

[eball]

46 minutes ago, boyst said:

McDermott flat out lied in his presser, too. which pisses me off.

 

I know what you told me (about Dorsey) and I don't think what McD says constitutes a "lie"...I don't think he can tell the press something like that.

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Two words Kliff Kingsbury 

Is he a good coordinator? He was sub par college coach, sub par NFL coach

 

Maybe he is better suited for assistant roles but I'm not even sure at that 

[Fan in Chicago]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Davis, Sherfield and Harty were not the answers.  Have to reload at get the right WRs this year.

Imo, Beane's biggest offseason mistake was to not sign DHop. He just had to do the required capology to make the $$s work.

 

If we had him, I truly believe this season would have gone much differently and we would be very much alive. 

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Valid point. He's cherry picking for sure. However, it's extremely disappointing that the Bills have lost three straight divisional round playoffs games. Two of which were at home. 

 

Something has to change because I don't think any Bills fans are happy with this. 

 

With respect, I ask what's going to be different year? What makes you think the Bills will advance to at least the AFC Championship game? 

 

Miami gave the Bills all they could handle. Cinci with a healthy Burrow seems to be a poor matchup for Buffalo. KC seemingly owns the Bills.

 

I expect another playoff appearance for Buffalo but beyond that I have some serious doubts. 

 

Am I on that list? 

 

I don't know what will happen this offseason.  I started a thread about it.  I'm just a fan with my feelings.  It's always tough when you are

the one who has to make the decisions.

 

I'll watch what happens, give my opinion and watch the games next season.  I've been doing that for a long, long, long time.

2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Imo, Beane's biggest offseason mistake was to not sign DHop. He just had to do the required capology to make the $$s work.

 

If we had him, I truly believe this season would have gone much differently and we would be very much alive. 

 

While I would have been fine with that, I admit I wasn't one of you guys "pounding the table" for it.

After seeing the way the season ended with the WR situation, I'm thinking I was wrong.

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Valid point. He's cherry picking for sure. However, it's extremely disappointing that the Bills have lost three straight divisional round playoffs games. Two of which were at home. 

 

Something has to change because I don't think any Bills fans are happy with this. 

 

With respect, I ask what's going to be different year? What makes you think the Bills will advance to at least the AFC Championship game? 

 

Miami gave the Bills all they could handle. Cinci with a healthy Burrow seems to be a poor matchup for Buffalo. KC seemingly owns the Bills.

 

I expect another playoff appearance for Buffalo but beyond that I have some serious doubts. 

 

Am I on that list? 

 

The thing is, of course we're all happy with the success this team has, but with Josh Allen everyone knows you have to get a Super Bowl(s).

 

And when we keep bowing out in the Divisional Round, that means we're drafting mid 20's every year.  

 

Where's Cinci drafting this year?  

 

We were able to jump Dallas for Kincaid, and they then took Mazi Smith.  Kincaid looks like a future elite TE.  Mazi Smith looks like a JAG.

 

KC jumped us for McDuffie.  McDuffie is a top tier CB.  We took Elam.  Still don't know if he's anything heading into Year 3. 

 

Draft position matters.  In back to back years, our first round picks have been getting an elite guy because we got ahead of Dallas and losing an elite guy because KC got ahead of us. 

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

First off, thanks for being open to my opinion, even if you see it differently.

Diggs is still a deep threat, just not the "type" WR I'm talking about.

I will admit there was a time when I thought Davis could fill that role, but it never materialized.

 

We (at least most) Bills fans want 2 new outside WRs this coming season.  I already said what I think one should be, the other is a speedy

guy with separation skills.  Maybe we can compromise on that!  LOL.

 

Ha, I am more than open to your opinion, I would love a big awesome WR too.  My only slight tweak was I don't want to get a guy just because he is big who has some of the issues Davis has which is too one dimensional and not reliable enough.  

 

As I mentioned before, I said it on draft night and its only proved true so far, that Chargers were dumb for taking Quentin or Jordan.  Don't force size is all I am really saying, I would rather have the better player than the bigger player if that makes sense.  

 

Plus Diggs is 31 this next season, we need a succession plan.  So for me, I want to see them go get a guy who has WR1 potential rather than a guy who just compliments a WR1 like Digss with size.  Hopefully, that WR1 also brings size to the table too though

[newcam2012]

3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

This reminds me of the end of the year presser with Kevyn Adams and Granato last season.  No commitment to any type of improvement.

 

Going to be difficult to even care next year.  I would rather they strip it down and absolutely suck next year then continue on this continued patch work because of the salary cap.

I disagree here. As a diehard Bills fan I always care. Frustrated and disappointed lingers in my heart and mind as this team continues to scar it's fans. 

 

I don't think the Bills need a tear or strip down. They are obviously in the top echolon of the league. 

 

There needs to be improvements made and player development vis the draft and free agency. Hopefully, the team can improve with better results. 

 

That kind of thinking and optimism has been in play for years now. The results have been disappointing. Hard to do back flips running it back with the same people making the critical decisions. 

 

I would feel better with a coaching change, different offensive scheme, new leadership, and a refreshing change of scenery. 

8 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I know what you told me (about Dorsey) and I don't think what McD says constitutes a "lie"...I don't think he can tell the press something like that.

 

He wasn't exactly honest with his answer about 13 seconds. I would have respected him more if he just said " I F'd up." After that, I lost a lot of respect for him as a coach, a leader, and a man of character. 

[Fan in Chicago]

6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

 

Plus Diggs is 31 this next season, we need a succession plan.  So for me, I want to see them go get a guy who has WR1 potential rather than a guy who just compliments a WR1 like Digss with size.  Hopefully, that WR1 also brings size to the table too though

That's why it is critical and important to draft a WR with our top pick. I don't care if they overdraft by a couple of positions if a good one is available. The rookie will be the heir apparent to Diggs after 2025. 

But we will need at least one other vet to round off the mid to bottom of the WR roster. 

I dearly hope that Harty and Sherfield never again wear a Bills uniform. 

Edited January 23 by Fan in Chicago