JMM Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Heels20X6 said: Seeing as Leslie is interviewing for HC positions at the moment, it's safe to say he ain't coming back. Yea Rooney rule stuff. I have a better chance of getting a HC gig than he does. He's pretty much done in this league now, other than as a position coach perhaps. 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: This might be the cover McD needs to promote him to DC. Yeah, tell Washington "sorry but I can't afford to lose him. You'll still be AHC and here's a raise." Quote
Governor Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Could just hire him back next offseason when Daboll is let go. Seriously. Quote
Warcodered Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Why? What exactly has he done other than be a part of the same defense that continues to fail over and over against elite QB's and in the playoffs? Yeah I mean he just was the safeties coach around the time two journeymen DBs developed into one of the best safety duos in the league and then was moved over into the LBer coach right as Bernard suddenly develops into a stud MLB and our depth somehow manages to hold up despite losing an All Pro in Milano early in the season. But I mean what could they possibly be thinking. 2 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Would HATE to lose him. Hopefully, he's retained here. May need to promote him to do it. They's have to promote him and give him play calling responsibility. 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They's have to promote him and give him play calling responsibility. They would, however it may still not be as appealing as working for an offensive minded HC. I mean, Frazier was here and had playcalling and credit ultimately was given to McDermott. Babich may be wiser to get out of the McDermott shadow. 1 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: They would, however it may still not be as appealing as working for an offensive minded HC. I mean, Frazier was here and had playcalling and credit ultimately was given to McDermott. Babich may be wiser to get out of the McDermott shadow. Frazier had also been a HC and failed and is much older, a young guy with a great track record as a position coach would be able to get a shot somewhere, and worse case he can move on either way he'd get experience as a DC with great DC experience to draw from the HC. Quote
NewEra Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I was worried about this exact sitch- didn’t want to put it into the air. Quote
T master Posted January 23 Posted January 23 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Would HATE to lose him. Hopefully, he's retained here. May need to promote him to do it. 🤔 That Dam Dabol curse you for trying to pilfer our coaches ! Go back to Alabama and get your coaches . 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, T master said: 🤔 That Dam Dabol curse you for trying to pilfer our coaches ! Go back to Alabama and get your coaches . I mean, he did take Bobby Johnson when he left, so we kinda owe him one😂😂 1 1 Quote
Rigotz Posted January 23 Posted January 23 6 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said: Trying to be objective here. He also had Poyer and Hyde in their prime when they were fully healthy and available. Then inherited Milano and Tremain Edmunds in their prime. So is he one of our best coaches, or luckiest? Poyer and Hyde were not superstars when they joined the team in 2017, as I'm sure you know. Hyde was learning a new position. Poyer underperformed in Cleveland. Babich was Assistant Defensive Backs coach in 2017 and moved to Safeties coach in 2018. You really don't want to attribute any success to him? Tremaine Edmunds underperformed for most of his time in Buffalo. Matt Milano was great, but not known as the best OLB in the league prior to 2022. Babich moved to Linebackers coach in 2022. The result was an All-Pro season for Milano and by FAR Edmunds best year as a Bill. Is that not enough for you? How about Terrel Bernard blossoming into a stud MLB under Babich? Or Tyrel Dodson turning into a legit starter after Milano went down, after doing nothing the 3 previous years with the Bills? Klein coming in off the street and having a great game vs the Steelers when the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd OLB went down? Is that all luck as well? Babich might not turn out to be a great defensive coordinator, but success has legitimately followed him at every position he's coached with the Bills. 1 Quote
transient Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: They's have to promote him and give him play calling responsibility. Promote him to DC/assistant HC Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I like Babich just fine, but I refuse to believe any positions coach on the team really matters. These guys are interchangeable, and many of them bring little value to the job anyway. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted January 23 Posted January 23 8 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: The easy fix is for McDermott to name him DC. Curious to see what happens. Easy fix which according to Rooney Rule needs to be competed for. Quote
Beck Water Posted January 23 Posted January 23 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Would HATE to lose him. Hopefully, he's retained here. May need to promote him to do it. IMHO, McDermott should promote him to DC 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted January 24 Posted January 24 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Would HATE to lose him. Hopefully, he's retained here. May need to promote him to do it. I’m on the fence on wanting to like this because he is our best up-and-coming defensive coach but I feel if I support us making him d coordinator I’m supporting us keeping McDermott and I’m just not there yet. Ha ha. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Easy fix which according to Rooney Rule needs to be competed for. I’m actually curious if they would have to open it up. It’s not really a vacancy, it’s a promote from within. I suppose it’s all moot since it sounds like it will be status quo defensively. Edited January 24 by MrEpsYtown Quote
Saxum Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: I’m actually curious if they would have to open it up. It’s not really a vacancy, it’s a promote from within. https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/19/nfl-rooney-rule-requirements-hiring-coach-gm-executives#:~:text=Here's what the rule looks,candidate for a coordinator job. Quote . The NFL requires every team to interview at least two external minority candidates for open head coaching positions and at least one external minority candidate for a coordinator job. Quote
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