Josh EOY presser

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

The "adjustment" the Chiefs' defense made was to put 9 in the box on first down.  I have no idea why Josh didn't audible out of those runs up the middle.

 

We knew the Bills' D would be under the gun...I can't blame them for this loss.

 

The defense gave up a staggering 8.5yards PER PLAY

 

they gave up a wholly ridiculous OVER ONE HALF POINT PER OFFENSIVE PLAY

 

this wasn't some brave attempt at hanging tough by an injured unit, this was a nuclear meltdown and one of the worst defensive performances I can remember masked only by the fact that the offense threw the football equivalent of a no hitter

[Ralonzo]

4 hours ago, bills6969 said:

Hopefully not seeing videos of him on golf course all offseason

 

You always play Pebble when you can play Pebble. Shoot, let me sub in at Edgewood, I'll take one for the team.

[Draconator]

This seems like a good place to put this. High praise of Josh from RG3

 

 

[OZBILLS]

Poor bloke let down by a bunch of frauds and idiots.

 

He really fought well this year, and Joe Brady worked well with him too!

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

One difference that I heard from last year and the previous year's end of year presser, is that he talked about wanting to get "back in the lab" as soon as possible and to work with guys off-season.

 

I think that's in contrast to the last two end of season pressers where he talked about needing to take time off to let his body heal and wanting to take some time away

[Tenhigh]

4 hours ago, Mango said:

 

What about it 2 years ago? We blew it. 

Last year we were paper tigers on both sides of the ball. 

For the most part I was higher on this team at the back end of the year than either of those other two. This one hurt, but this wasn't a "McDermott was protecting his precious defense" game. The defense was a seiv and needed to be kept off the field, 

Mahomes and co. didn't win by 4 because they took their foot off the gas. They lost by 4 because the Bills kept their possessions to a minimum with long sustained drives. I am confident that Buffalo wins that game fairly easily with a healthy Milano, Bernard, and Douglas. 

I'd say they win with a healthy Bernard alone of those 3.

Edited January 22 by Tenhigh

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

It's all words but Josh Allen gave great EOY presser and looks like there was a fire in his eyes. We need that WR1 but I think we could be ok next year especially if we can retain Brady and Josh plays like he did somewhat down the stretch with little to no turnovers.  There will always be some. A lot of tough cap issues but JA is a leader.  Still numb but Who knows. Go Bills. 

 

This is how I see it.  
 

Find the next WR 1.  Everything gets easier after that.   

[jlgarsh]

3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

How so? You don't want your team's leader to demand more? Josh was hyper football focused the summer of COVID and look how good he played that season. Made a huge leap. What if he could make another leap? Or at least set the standard for the team that we are winning it this year at all costs

I'd like to see you put some blame on your namesake who's been actively bad and looking unfocused since around week 8. He could have told his brother not to post anything, regardless of his feelings. All it did was cause needless drama. For every great catch he made, there were 2 or 3 drops each week that never happened in his first 3 & 1/2 seasons in Buffalo.

[Beck Water]

39 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

The defense gave up a staggering 8.5yards PER PLAY

 

they gave up a wholly ridiculous OVER ONE HALF POINT PER OFFENSIVE PLAY

 

this wasn't some brave attempt at hanging tough by an injured unit, this was a nuclear meltdown and one of the worst defensive performances I can remember masked only by the fact that the offense threw the football equivalent of a no hitter

 

First off, I'm not sure where you're getting 8.5 yards per play.  The Chiefs had 361 yards on 47 pass + run plays.  That's 7.7 yards per play when I math.  A nit, perhaps, but IMO the "yards per play" thing is missing the point.

 

I'm not interested in semantics debate about "nuclear meltdown" or not, but the average is like the joke about the duck where there's a cluster of shots to the right and to the left, and the punchline "on average, the duck is dead".

Out of those 47 pass + run plays, there were something like 5 long pass plays and 3 long run plays given up to the Chiefs - plays of 20 or more yards.  McDermott's defense is designed to depend on everyone knowing where they're supposed to be, and getting there in time.

 

When you're playing a MLB who is over 30, just practiced with the starters this week, and has lost a step off the low athleticism he had to start with; a CB on 1 leg (who looked mi-tee slow in the clip we saw of practice) and a backup;  backfilling for an athletically limited OLB with a raw rookie; and back-filling for the safety you move into the box with Cam Lewis - expect something like a 15% failure rate on a defense which depends upon everyone being on the same page.

 

Your mileage apparently varies 🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GoBills808]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

First off, I'm not sure where you're getting 8.5 yards per play.  The Chiefs had 361 yards on 47 pass + run plays.  That's 7.7 yards per play when I math.  A nit, perhaps, but IMO the "yards per play" thing is missing the point.

 

I'm not interested in semantics debate about "nuclear meltdown" or not, but the average is like the joke about the duck where there's a cluster of shots to the right and to the left, and the punchline "on average, the duck is dead".

Out of those 47 pass + run plays, there were something like 5 long pass plays and 3 long run plays given up to the Chiefs - plays of 20 or more yards.  McDermott's defense is designed to depend on everyone knowing where they're supposed to be, and getting there in time.

 

When you're playing a MLB who is over 30, just practiced with the starters this week, and has lost a step off the low athleticism he had to start with; a CB on 1 leg (who looked mi-tee slow in the clip we saw of practice) and a backup;  backfilling for an athletically limited OLB with a raw rookie; and back-filling for the safety you move into the box with Cam Lewis - expect something like a 15% failure rate on a defense which depends upon everyone being on the same page.

 

Your mileage apparently varies 🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not including kneeldowns 

 

You can get as much mileage as you like from the injuries excuse

[Tim Tindale]

4 hours ago, Roundybout said:

Every quarterback hits the links. Manning did, Mahomes does, Rogers does, etc. 
 

The only guy who worked out every day over the summer that I can think of was JJ Watt, and he was a complete psychopath 

…and constantly injured.  The Josh narrative of a lack of commitment doesn’t square at all with amount of punishment that man takes at that position.  And he is rarely hurt. 

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Watching the effort it took our O to score vs the effort KC required is like watching a little kid trying his hardest against his big brother letting him keep it close but not win. 

You mean the team we beat at their place a few weeks back, where “big brother” had a meltdown and cried to mommy (the refs, the media, Josh in the post-game handshake) because things didn’t go his way? 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

One difference that I heard from last year and the previous year's end of year presser, is that he talked about wanting to get "back in the lab" as soon as possible and to work with guys off-season.

 

I think that's in contrast to the last two end of season pressers where he talked about needing to take time off to let his body heal and wanting to take some time away

Definitely, I think maybe a big part of that is how the way he's leading the team has changed over this season.

[K D]

1 hour ago, jlgarsh said:

I'd like to see you put some blame on your namesake who's been actively bad and looking unfocused since around week 8. He could have told his brother not to post anything, regardless of his feelings. All it did was cause needless drama. For every great catch he made, there were 2 or 3 drops each week that never happened in his first 3 & 1/2 seasons in Buffalo.

Yes they can all work harder. Get together as a team and focus this summer. I think it will pay off

[ALG1130]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

One difference that I heard from last year and the previous year's end of year presser, is that he talked about wanting to get "back in the lab" as soon as possible and to work with guys off-season.

 

I think that's in contrast to the last two end of season pressers where he talked about needing to take time off to let his body heal and wanting to take some time away

I usually try not to get into the personal lives of these players, but last year at this time was the beginning of the end for him and Brittany, and of course he started dating Hailee. I do think the things going on in his personal life played a huge role in his off season. Some massive life changes. I think it's great if he gets back in the lab, it will never hurt. Lab or not, the team always seems to find a way to win the division and get the 2 seed, so it's not like him doing other things in the off season has necessarily hurt, but it also won't hurt to get back to the fundamentals.

[John from Riverside]

Do for Josh, what Miami did for tua

[boyst]

7 hours ago, boyst said:

Words aren't action

Talk is cheap

L's still an L

 

Jesus Christ everyone crying over the truth.  We have heard these words time and time again, been so close... And that people think they mean something to them this time is like a battered wife or something.

 

Jesus, guys, I bet you believed every woman when she said you satisfied her, too.

[PBF81]

He was all-in on Brady just like he was all-in on Dorsey.

 

 

7 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

While the Bills are out shopping for a #2 receiver they might want to grab a #1 as well.

 

Maybe just get a game-manager QB with running skills.  That's really what McD needs.  

 

 

7 hours ago, stlbills13 said:

Josh has to play a perfect game for the team to have a chance in the playoffs. Even then it may not be enough. He's going to have to find a way to be even better.

 

Times three or four in a row.  

 

 

[Teddy KGB]

7 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

If McD is back it’s punting another year of his Prime. We might actually waste this guys career. It’s devastating. 

it’s pathetic considering how insane Josh’s playoff numbers are 

 

I think he’s got 27td’s and 4 INT’s but he’s also got McD getting pansted by better coaches on the regular. 

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, Tim Tindale said:

You mean the team we beat at their place a few weeks back, where “big brother” had a meltdown and cried to mommy (the refs, the media, Josh in the post-game handshake) because things didn’t go his way? 

I was talking about the playoff game. Unfortunately you can carry over what happened during the regular season. 

[TheBrownBear]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

First off, I'm not sure where you're getting 8.5 yards per play.  The Chiefs had 361 yards on 47 pass + run plays.  That's 7.7 yards per play when I math.  A nit, perhaps, but IMO the "yards per play" thing is missing the point.

 

The defense was giving up 9.6 yards per play up until the middle of the 4th quarter (I know because I was following that stat in the box throughout the game).  The Chiefs had 16 total yards over 10 plays in their final two possessions (including the kneel downs), which drove the average down to a still putrid 7.7 yards per play by game's end.  I know they had a ton of injuries, but they were just god awful last night and the primary reason we lost the game. 

 

We also gave up a horrific 7.6 yards per play in the 13 seconds game.  Sean's defenses have been wretched in the last four playoff losses.  There is no getting around this.