McDermott - Excuses, Valid but concerning

[Peace Frog]

18 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Would I rather move on? Yes. Rebuilding a coaching landscape here would be the best option. 
 

 

But there are certainly reasons and circumstances that mitigate him for a return… I don’t know, given where we were at mid season, ended up the #2 and how he had guys playing well who were in and out of the lineup I give him some for. 
 

Giving him one more year is due to the fact of what he’s done; completely turned a club around that is now consistently in the playoffs we just haven’t got it done. If history repeats itself then you part ways. 

I would've canned him after the 13 seconds debacle.  It would've saved having to watch that horrid display last year against the Bengals in the playoffs.  Time to move on from him, Diggs, Bass, Davis, and Miller.

Let's kick the tires on Mike Vrabel.

[phypon]

Serious question.  What do you guys see as the cut off day for him to potentially be fired?  In other words, if he's not gone by "X" day, he's staying.  What's a reasonable date to say that he's "safe"?  If he's not fired by tomorrow afternoon he's safe?  By Thursday afternoon?  Essentially, what is the cut off day where everyone can say that he's staying?  Just curious what a realistic timeframe would be.

[boyst]

2 hours ago, McBean said:

 

wtf is unc? and why do we care what him and ocho say?

 

there are a dozen speaking jaberjaw heads saying McD should stay.

 

too many people talking

10 hours ago, chongli said:

Patience is a virtue.

 

Super Bowls are not easy to come by; neither are Conference Championship Games. They often are a matter of luck. How many SB's did Dan Fouts go to? How many Conference Championships has Lamar Jackson been to? Both had great coaches.

 

The Indianapolis Colts under Peyton Manning did not even make a SB until his ninth year, in 2006. They only made it to one Conference Championship before that:

 

1998 - missed playoffs

1999 - lost Div.

2000 - lost WC

2001 - missed playoffs

2002 - lost WC

2003 - lost Conf.

2004 - lost Div.

2005 - lost Div.

2006 - won SB

 

2024 will be Josh's seventh year only. We still have time. I don't think you will do much better than McDermott with what's out there.

cool. can we get kyle allen to punch collinsworth in the mouth and break his hand? that trick worked for the colts to start winning when jim harbaugh's arrogant cockyass punched jim kelly in the face

5 minutes ago, phypon said:

Serious question.  What do you guys see as the cut off day for him to potentially be fired?  In other words, if he's not gone by "X" day, he's staying.  What's a reasonable date to say that he's "safe"?  If he's not fired by tomorrow afternoon he's safe?  By Thursday afternoon?  Essentially, what is the cut off day where everyone can say that he's staying?  Just curious what a realistic timeframe would be.

today. and we'd already have heard about it.

[Niagara Dude]

 

The Buffalo defense in the last three divisional round losses: Opposing passers -- 71 percent, 8.1 yards per pass, 7 TDs, 0 interceptions, 3 sacks. Against the run: 167 yards a game, 5.9 yards a carry.

[phypon]

2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

 

The Buffalo defense in the last three divisional round losses: Opposing passers -- 71 percent, 8.1 yards per pass, 7 TDs, 0 interceptions, 3 sacks. Against the run: 167 yards a game, 5.9 yards a carry.

Anyone in cahoots with a billboard guy?  Maybe we can get one up in 2 hours.

[boyst]

on his presser now. admits they need to do some work but it's not a restructure or rebuild.

 

the DL was banged up in '22, healthier in playoffs this year '23. full team deal that could have played better... puts it on whole team when asked about his DL.

 

asked about hiring a DC/playcaller from Sal. said they'll get into it, they just got done exit interviews, still a few more. hasn't thought about it yet.

[BBFL]

39 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

I would've canned him after the 13 seconds debacle.  It would've saved having to watch that horrid display last year against the Bengals in the playoffs.  Time to move on from him, Diggs, Bass, Davis, and Miller.

Let's kick the tires on Mike Vrabel.

100%. 
 

That should have been the tie that severed but they were willing to have another go… and then run it back…

 

Now we are where we are. I just feel he’ll be back next year. That doesn’t mean it’s what I would want or like for the team but it’s something I can accept and understand their choice of doing so. 

[boyst]

no discussion of staff movements. 

 

can we at least ask you on thoughts joe brady....

 

with joe? that'll happen in due time in respect ot what we do in that position evaluating that position as we do others. but to your question specicifc to joe. he did a really nice joe building um collabration, a vibe, particiatpation, the results you saw with that in six games. i thought he did a very nice job in that regards

 

 

asked about ST  by wawrow

 

i thought we were good at times ..the thing i love baout smiley is that when you coach special teams you kind of get the orster paired down you you're dealing with what is left and who do i have to use out thereon a weekly basis  coach smiley and hockey did a great decision to make the most of it. i thought at times we did really good and other times we gave some plays we couldnt' afford to give up.

 

 

"gotta have buy in from franchise qb, at end of day it'l be my decision but i respect joshs opinion and position on it and it does factor in..." when pickign new OC

 

what iwas it like calling DC plays this year...

 

i'll tell you i was able to get back into the seat a little bit tahnks to our defenseive stall wthey were hoenom and best tsaff we had, professionalism best . results were the results because of how they did i am greateful .i ...my position, i felt overall knocking some rust off early, back in seato f doing it but felt very comfortable back in that positoin. more owrk on ones plate doing that but um. that'll be evalutating as i go forward.

[ngbills]

7 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

 

The Buffalo defense in the last three divisional round losses: Opposing passers -- 71 percent, 8.1 yards per pass, 7 TDs, 0 interceptions, 3 sacks. Against the run: 167 yards a game, 5.9 yards a carry.

6 total punts forced in 4 playoff losses...

[newcam2012]

41 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

I would've canned him after the 13 seconds debacle.  It would've saved having to watch that horrid display last year against the Bengals in the playoffs.  Time to move on from him, Diggs, Bass, Davis, and Miller.

Let's kick the tires on Mike Vrabel.

I'm not a Vrabel fan. He's a conservative defensive minded coach. He's very good but not sure about the fit. With that said, I'd take him over McD right now because this team is stagnant. The Bills need to go in a different direction and inject some new blood. Vrabel would certainly do that. 

 

I would rather go with Ben Johnson, Haurbaugh, or BB. Truthfully, you probably couldn't go wrong with any of them Heck, you could add Pete Carrol to the mix. 

 

Point being staying the course with McD and expecting different results doesn't seem optimal. 

 

 

[boyst]

quesetion about yards and lack of produciton ... can barely hear her 

 

i can't say why heather if i could we would flip it back like earlier in the year. sometimes defenses evovled and more tape, so peopel copy them. stef is great player, i lvoe stef. he was phenom player i look how the offense found the rhythyme under joe. he and stef evolved down the strefch last 3 games.

 

question i think from wawrow sounds like him can't hear it... how much do you need to vlaidate or something... 

 

i go to bed thinking about taking another step. really two steps. john you know me i'm goal oriented. winning another championship. doing that for bills mafia. terry, kim, wny, that winning mindssetthat's what this is all about. thats what we said at 6-6. we were able to rally and get to where we got to. that winners mindset that. thats what i want everyone to have and want. and to feel like what it gets to super bowl and havei t. that's our organization goal. terry kim. i'm proud of us. not satisfied or goign to get complacanet. every year we get anoher chance. brighter burning inside of me. 

dispapopintedn ot broken

 

 

question: second half season trying to rally against something something

crtiical pieceo f the e v a l, tim. as my my ind as a coach we should have never got there to begin with leson leranred. we will not get into details now. lets make sure we do not egt into that detail again. things caused that outside your control. injury, i felt like we were banged gup this year last year and not an excuse we gotta dive into that for why, why is that happened just in one piece. a lto fo valuable lessons we can take from earlier part of this season. and some of that got corrected. where what went wrong was executed better. back half season  )my note --- if not excuse then why mention it>)??

 

turning the ball over question?

turning the ball over causes us loses , some of thoe 6 loses earlier in the year over the bye week we came out of it hgey we take care of the football. and um just evolving as offense, defense, special teans not different.

next year game 1 that understanidn g and awareness.

[phypon]

7 minutes ago, boyst said:

on his presser now. admits they need to do some work but it's not a restructure or rebuild.

 

the DL was banged up in '22, healthier in playoffs this year '23. full team deal that could have played better... puts it on whole team when asked about his DL.

 

asked about hiring a DC/playcaller from Sal. said they'll get into it, they just got done exit interviews, still a few more. hasn't thought about it yet.

Thanks for the heads up on the presser.  Listening now.  I really can't stand this guy, I just can't.  If he's giving a presser that most likely means he's staying.  It's going to be the same script every year he is here.  It's just horrible, it really is...

[boyst]

quetsion about cuqetsion about contol clock

 

every week you go into a week with an overall plan and this is how we need to play. how to mangage a game. but its never about slow the clock down but its's about... this is how we play lets be mindful of these areas and then put a plan together how we play. its make a plan and go for it. its' am indset to prepare our tail off, mentally go for it, coach to win , play to win. thats what i want, thats what we want. the course of last 6 weeks. that the winners mentality. the results you wnat the way to look at it, the mindset that leads to win championships, very powerful. enables playesr to be themselves.

 

 

[phypon]

OMG!  He's talking about how the first meeting with KC the game wasn't close, but NOW it is close.  "Yay, we're getting closer guys!  4 more years!"  Such a doofus.  Can't believe he just said that like it's a good thing.  "We still lost, but not by as much as we did the first meeting!"  Can you say "participation trophy".  You have to be f'ing kidding me!!!!!!!!!!! 

[boyst]

playoffs in future, with mahomes in our future, road to victory against mahomes. what do we need to do against kc thats gonna be different?

 

well your'e right jay, we're when you look back to the affcc our first playoff with them i wasn't close. they were a different we were at a different point they were at a diff point now it's clsoe. that shows you thstrides we have made over the years but to your point we have to ifnd ways to make those plays. put ourseles in positions to make those plays. that's to me.. it started with that belief i'm not saying we didn't have that but we gotta go for it. gotta have that mindset to go for it. players gotta be put in psition and players gotta make those plays. it starts with winner mindset.

 

((f'n mcclappy)

[Success]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'm not a Vrabel fan. He's a conservative defensive minded coach. He's very good but not sure about the fit. With that said, I'd take him over McD right now because this team is stagnant. The Bills need to go in a different direction and inject some new blood. Vrabel would certainly do that. 

 

I would rather go with Ben Johnson, Haurbaugh, or BB. Truthfully, you probably couldn't go wrong with any of them Heck, you could add Pete Carrol to the mix. 

 

Point being staying the course with McD and expecting different results doesn't seem optimal. 

 

 

 

I think Vrabel would make this team mentally tougher, which we need.

 

My 1st choice would be Belichick, but after that, I'd be really happy w/ Vrabel.  He has never had a QB like Allen or close to it.  So much of what is holding this team back right now is psychological, and I think he'd give the team the edge they need to overcome that.

 

[boyst]

i listen to our trinaers, i listen to von

 

 ibelieve i saw his best game of the season agaisnt kc, imy hoep is that is its a good direcftion, where we pick of  next seatson, wherw he came back from ad how he came back from it do i wish he was hearlithier? no one worked harder, my hope is that he is...um healthy and ready to play his best football next seaosn

 

qution do you think you explosion in passing game? shakir, diggs underneath. are you lackign explsoive nature? focal for ofesason?

 

want to be big, exposive hward to serve two maseters btu that being said its you gotta make explosive plays. usinally a socoring driving has a explorsive run or explosive pass. or a big time penalty.thats a big part movign forward as we look at foresrt and posiotionss going forward.

[eball]

Are people really having a problem with what McD is saying?

 

[boyst]

one day at a time. tre....  a player who is very very talented done a lot of great things. my first draft pick. um. gone through two seirous injuries we just need to take it one day a ta ime full confidence he iwll be fine. same time when he is out there wi will know more, what level of um contirbute to our team he will have. out of respect for tre. one day a t time.

 

 

Sa/: hirie someone who works with MCD... or what kidn of assistance you hire?

i promise you that's not the case i am sa defensive coach we just loss to andy he is a pass first  and they wonand that's been my philosphy since i game here. and he has grown to player adn qb he is. it's been since 19 and that's been my philosphoy but i gotta believe you control the LOS and and we did that his season, kromer did a really nice job with pieces brandon brought it our best year in that regards. it heldps a qb. being two deminemsiosnally. we were giving up their runs, they were allowed otbe a 2 dim offense and it was harder to defend. we have ability to run football and there s not goign to bem any where josh can't thorw the ball. we know that josh can, but we gotta be able to do it.

 

 

 

how was joshes shoulder?

wasn't idealll... never want qb or any player to get bangedu p porobably happens significant backup qb's playing in the league which is a warning sign for us. better make sure we have in training camp we do that that other qb ready to go. and so just like any player we had any other player out there athat night inbihibited by injurs hey  were dealing with proud of how josh worked through it. you go  for it...

 got distrated.... playing paper footballs.

[boyst]

what we learned...

proud of josh. very prdf of josh really learning how to this is where it really ownership he has urgency you saw. you saw him willing this team to win m ami game this past game in particulolar.

i also think he is maturing enough i understand how to play the psotiion and understand i gotta be mobile but i have to be healthy so i can do that... paraphrased.

miami 3rd down conversion if you're not health enough to do that then maybe we don't get that maybe we dont' win. his understanding of hat we are getting close and close to that he gets it.

 

good coach babbic... back to Carolina his da was with us a number of years. good caoch, develpoed playerd you take hat oyu have ane make it beter. does not get more xcomplex that he did that.

 

james cook question ...

 

coaches responsibilities james i htink has done 1 year to year 2. difference. a young man that wasnt' a priamry back at georgia but became a priumary back in 2nd yaer for us. impressive. still more? yes. still more growth. yes. i think he is primed to do that this off season