TheFunPolice Posted January 22 Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, NewEra said: We don’t have to be 💯 healthy, we just need to be healthier than what we’ve been. Take away Milano and Tre- 30M+ in contracts. Our best defender and our original CB1- We could’ve won without them. Even if we just had Bernard out there, I think the game ends with a W. Kelce was killing Klein. In all, we lost 2 of our top 3 corners. 3 of our top 4 linebackers, a rotational DT and S. take that away from KC and this game end differently. How many players did they have starting that were on the couch 12 days ago? The injuries aren’t the only reason we lost, but they impacted the outcome of the game. for sure, but what about all the other playoff losses to KC and the Bengals? Basically the same result: Allen played great but it doesn't matter. It looked like a pretty similar game overall Quote
NewEra Posted January 22 Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: for sure, but what about all the other playoff losses to KC and the Bengals? Basically the same result: Allen played great but it doesn't matter. It looked like a pretty similar game overall Allen was awful vs the bengals and pretty good vs KC in the AFCCG. Masterful vs Kc in the other 2 games 1 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 58 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. Yep. KC lost Gay and their starting safety in the game... 1 Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC? It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently. They need a coach that doesn't have his guys fold on defense every time. It would be great if Diggs actually caught the ball...same with Sherfield, Cook, and Davis when he's actually healthy. Problem is that if Mahomes or Burrow have the ball at the end, they will absolutely get whatever they want against our defense. That falls on the coach 2 1 Quote
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: McDermott's limited offensive strategy and philosophy will continue to hinder this team until he is gone as head coach. It might take Pegula 5 more years to realize this. McDimwit's approach leaves a TINY margin for error. It's why we have lost the big ones. Why not build an approach with a large margin for error? When you play good teams there’s always a tiny margin for error on either side. We just are usually the team that commits one of those tiny errors and lose 1 Quote
JimmyNoodles Posted January 22 Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, BBFL said: Yeah but that isn’t the actual issue. The actual issue comes down to scheme and adjustments. Spags over there completely shut us down. The only way you can’t shut down this team is when Josh is able to get the deep ball connecting. It’s a stretch that teams go to where they play a shell with everything in front and then collapse on it. If Sherfield or Diggs come down with any of those 4 deep shots that turned into drops/incompletions, I honestly think we win the game. KC are forced into a TD position again. Scheme and adjustments are coaching. Our offense pounded them the first half. When they stacked the box and run blitzed in the 2nd half, no real adjustments to take advantage. We stalled out on too many drives. But still, it wasn't the offense. The defense was a joke, injuries or not. Same every year. I was out on McD last year, and I'm doubly out now. Next year, I'll be triply out as they rerun this nonsense. 1 1 Quote
NewEra Posted January 22 Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: They need a coach that doesn't have his guys fold on defense every time. It would be great if Diggs actually caught the ball...same with Sherfield, Cook, and Davis when he's actually healthy. Problem is that if Mahomes or Burrow have the ball at the end, they will absolutely get whatever they want against our defense. That falls on the coach KC wasn’t able to get what they wanted in 3 of the last 4 games played vs our D. They certainly did yesterday. Attacking AJ Klein Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 1 minute ago, NewEra said: KC wasn’t able to get what they wanted in 3 of the last 4 games played vs our D. They certainly did yesterday. Attacking AJ Klein Playoffs, my guy Totally different story Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. I'd settle for 90%. Losing Milano, Tre, Bernard, et al., that's more than we should reasonably expect. McD did a great job wringing out quality starts from average depth pieces, but it caught up to us in the end. I do believe if Frazier was calling the D, we lose by 3 scores yesterday fwiw. Quote
NewEra Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: Playoffs, my guy Totally different story And the injuries were a totally different story as well, my guy. when we played them in the regular season each year, we had Bernard and Benford. 13 seconds, our corners were Levi and Dane. We had Tre during the regular season and pounded them. last year, we had a healthy von and he wrecked them. That’s my point- McD has proven he’s able to stop them…..when he has a somewhat healthy roster. Missing Milano, Bernard, Tre, Benford, Rapp and JP hurt. Big time. Hell, even losing Spector hurt last night Edited January 22 by NewEra 2 Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 Just now, NewEra said: And the injuries were a totally different story as well, my guy. when we played them in the regular season each year, we had Bernard and Benford. 13 seconds, our corners were Levi and Dane. We had Tre during the regular season and pounded them. last year, we had a healthy von and he wrecked them. That’s my point- McD has proven he’s able to stop them…..when he has a somewhat healthy roster. Missing Milano, Bernard, Tre, Benford, Rapp and JP hurt. Big time I disagree He hasn't proven a damn thing against the top QB's in the playoffs...they have abused his defense...healthy or not. You will make excuses every year and say x person was out, they had injuries, etc This time they had the home game, and they had a KC offense that hadn't shown anything all season. This was their best shot, and they laid an egg again. Your evidence is regular season wins, but my evidence is postseason losses. We are talking postseason here, so my evidence is more compelling Quote
BBFL Posted January 22 Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: Scheme and adjustments are coaching. Our offense pounded them the first half. When they stacked the box and run blitzed in the 2nd half, no real adjustments to take advantage. We stalled out on too many drives. But still, it wasn't the offense. The defense was a joke, injuries or not. Same every year. I was out on McD last year, and I'm doubly out now. Next year, I'll be triply out as they rerun this nonsense. I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls. Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made… Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have. Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first. Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed… Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed. Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC… Just now, BeastMaster said: I disagree He hasn't proven a damn thing against the top QB's in the playoffs...they have abused his defense...healthy or not. You will make excuses every year and say x person was out, they had injuries, etc This time they had the home game, and they had a KC offense that hadn't shown anything all season. This was their best shot, and they laid an egg again. Your evidence is regular season wins, but my evidence is postseason losses. We are talking postseason here, so my evidence is more compelling I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD. Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it. He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on. He has earned that parting gift. Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Injuries were very much a factor. There is no denying that. Doesn't mean it’s an excuse for McD, but it is factual that injuries hit us hard. We still had opportunities to win the game so it’s not an excuse, but let’s not pretend the injuries didn’t impact us. KC attacked and exploited our depleted LBs all game. All teams have injuries, but when down to 4th stringers against what is still a very good KC team it will make a difference. Many here seem to be forgetting that many of the players who were out this week with injury or playing but not close to 100% were already playing for the original injured starter. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Which is what many of us have been preaching…. Stack the offense. Not true. I was told on this board it was gods will to have the Bills play outdoors when the new stadium is built. Right? I mean God forbid a dome and excellent conditions for playoffs because Superbowls are played in terrible, freezing weather... Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, BBFL said: I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls. Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made… Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have. Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first. Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed… Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed. Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC… I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD. Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it. He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on. He has earned that parting gift. Insanity We have all the evidence we need on McDermott and his failures in the playoffs against legit QB's and coaches McDermott beats up on lesser teams and QB's until it comes playoff time...then he gets undressed I'm out on a McDermott led Bills team next season. Not doing it 1 Quote
TH3 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, BeastMaster said: He actually mentioned it in his post game, but said it wasn't an excuse. But by mentioning it, you are actually using it as an excuse. Don't even say anything about it...say no excuses and we didn't get it done. While you can point to injuries in this game as a reason as to why they couldn't get it done, we have factual evidence that anytime a McDermott led team faces a top contender, they get pushed around and they have their way with his defense. We also had maybe the worst fake punt decision ever in the playoffs that would have been the reason we lost if it wasn't for a miraculous play by Poyer. If you don't think that KC out coached us by a wide margain in the second half, then you aren't using your brain. Spags adjusted and dared Brady to beat them with the passing game, and it worked. McDermotts defense came out and gave up a TD with zero resistance. We finally had the advantage yesterday being at home and playing a KC offense that wasn't very dangerous, and we blow it again. When does it end? Where does it stop? The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. There should be zero expectations for this team starting next season if we don't overhaul the coaching staff Prepare for zero expectations 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, BeastMaster said: He actually mentioned it in his post game, but said it wasn't an excuse. But by mentioning it, you are actually using it as an excuse. Don't even say anything about it...say no excuses and we didn't get it done. While you can point to injuries in this game as a reason as to why they couldn't get it done, we have factual evidence that anytime a McDermott led team faces a top contender, they get pushed around and they have their way with his defense. We also had maybe the worst fake punt decision ever in the playoffs that would have been the reason we lost if it wasn't for a miraculous play by Poyer. If you don't think that KC out coached us by a wide margain in the second half, then you aren't using your brain. Spags adjusted and dared Brady to beat them with the passing game, and it worked. McDermotts defense came out and gave up a TD with zero resistance. We finally had the advantage yesterday being at home and playing a KC offense that wasn't very dangerous, and we blow it again. When does it end? Where does it stop? The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. There should be zero expectations for this team starting next season if we don't overhaul the coaching staff Well, he is out of coordinators to blame. 1 Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: All teams have injuries, but when down to 4th stringers against what is still a very good KC team it will make a difference. Many here seem to be forgetting that many of the players who were out this week with injury or playing but not close to 100% were already playing for the original injured starter. What makes you so confident that even if by some amazing luck we play Mahomes or Burrow with a healthy team, that we will win? McDermott routinely gets out coached and his defense gets trounced every playoffs against these guys You're talking hypotheticals with zero evidence that any McDermott defense can beat those teams in the playoffs. We now have four years of his defense getting absolutely worked 1 Quote
JimmyNoodles Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BBFL said: I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls. Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made… Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have. Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first. Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed… Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed. Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC… I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD. Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it. He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on. He has earned that parting gift. I agree on all but keeping McD. We're going to lose a lot of pieces this year, or should lose a lot of pieces. Just as well start fresh now. Edited January 22 by JimmyNoodles 1 Quote
Shortchaz Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. Correct Quote
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