peterpan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I don't think any of those guys are really similar to one another. In terms of the tall, physical WR mold like Evans, you could maybe look to Keon Coleman or Adonai Mitchell. However, they both rank near the bottom of the draft class in terms of yards per route run and aren't particularly good in terms of contested catch rate. Mitchell moves fairly well for his size but his targets per route run suggest he probably doesn't get open as well as most. Coleman on the other hand gets a pretty good number of targets but they're mostly contested opportunities which is a pretty big red flag against college competition. In terms of the size/speed freaks like DK, you're probably looking at Brian Thomas Jr. and Xavier Legette. But unlike DK Metcalf, who was one of the best prospects to come around in a long time in terms of beating press coverage, that's something that Xavier Legette really struggles with. Thomas has the size (6'4"), speed, and press beating skills to at least kinda earn that sort of competition, but he body catches pretty much everything. Not really sure anyone particularly compares to Jefferson aside from maybe one of the guys that are out of our reach. This is the dude I’m talking about: a big physical beast who can jump up and catch anything. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 22 Posted January 22 8 hours ago, boyst said: With the 28th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select: ___________ A difference maker on offense…, Quote
TBBills Fan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 If Hyde and poyer are gone we are going safety round 1 or round 2 Any possible free agent safety's that fit the mold 1 Quote
Process Posted January 22 Posted January 22 The only position I will accept in round 1 outside of WR is safety, and that's only if there is no good value at WR at 28 and we then make a move up in round 2 to take one. Safety and WR in rounds 1 and 2 and then you can start filling in holes on the d line, with another WR in there somewhere. 2 Quote
vanislebills44 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 a game changer, whereever that is....safety n wr r the obvious big needs... Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I think it really comes down to WR, Safety, and defensive line. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 22 Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Agreed you can’t trade all the way up to top 10 but there is a way he falls to the teens or lower. A lot of teams need OT help. And honestly I see at least 4 QBs going in the top 10. Don’t forget Bowers will get snagged early. It’s unlikely but if he falls to the teens I’d be willing to move up and snag him if it only took our 2nd rounder. Hes that good But If we can’t get a bona fide stud day 1 super star then I’m fine grabbing a couple WRs in this draft because it is very deep at the position I don't see Bowers going before Odunze. Bowers will go later than most expect. Don't think he is a top 10 pick. 1 Quote
Chaos Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Punter / Kicker rounds 1 and 2. Would have made a big difference yesterday Quote
peterpan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Dude send the scouts home, we found him. Leggette from South Carolina. watch his highlights. He jumps up and high points the ball. He brings down contested catches. He catches with his hands. He is super fast. He plays WR like Josh Allen would play WR! he’s built like DK Metcalf and runs like him too. complementary football!? This dude is the WR the Bills need to perfectly compliment Allen’s skill set. No more tiny shifty guys trying to catch Allen’s bombs. we beat the chiefs yesterday if this guy was on the team!!! send the scouts home early, trade up and just get draft him already. Quote
DCOrange Posted January 23 Posted January 23 52 minutes ago, peterpan said: This is the dude I’m talking about: a big physical beast who can jump up and catch anything. I get it. But the main thing we really need out of that mold is someone that can deal with press coverage so that our smaller guys don’t have to deal with it. That’s what made DK so special and it’s what makes Legette a disappointing prospect IMO. That along with the fact that it took him 5 years to do anything at all in college; which is pretty much always an indicator of a WR that will bust in the NFL. 1 1 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted January 23 Posted January 23 52 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: If Hyde and poyer are gone we are going safety round 1 or round 2 Any possible free agent safety's that fit the mold Not for free or negative cap, unfortunately. Quote
Mopreme Posted January 23 Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, peterpan said: Dude send the scouts home, we found him. Leggette from South Carolina. watch his highlights. He jumps up and high points the ball. He brings down contested catches. He catches with his hands. He is super fast. He plays WR like Josh Allen would play WR! he’s built like DK Metcalf and runs like him too. complementary football!? This dude is the WR the Bills need to perfectly compliment Allen’s skill set. No more tiny shifty guys trying to catch Allen’s bombs. we beat the chiefs yesterday if this guy was on the team!!! send the scouts home early, trade up and just get draft him already. Beane passing on DK Metcalf is a fireable offense. This new guy appears to be in the same mold. 100 percent on board. This offense needs an alpha receiver with size, speed, strength and catch radius. Quote
peterpan Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I get it. But the main thing we really need out of that mold is someone that can deal with press coverage so that our smaller guys don’t have to deal with it. That’s what made DK so special and it’s what makes Legette a disappointing prospect IMO. That along with the fact that it took him 5 years to do anything at all in college; which is pretty much always an indicator of a WR that will bust in the NFL. Watch some highlights of the other late 1st WRs. They are generally schemed wide open, never expected to make a contested catch, and catch a lot of balls against their chest. They might be able to make those spectacular plays but just haven’t seen it. Brian Thomas Jr also makes a lot of great impressive “NFL” plays i don’t want to imply I watch all these guys year round, I just watched the guys on this list. It just seemed pointless to keep investigating after seeing Legette. https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-draft-5-wide-receivers-who-could-sneak-into-first-round/ Edited January 23 by peterpan Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 WR Xavier Legette South Carolina , would love this guy on the Bills with Allen heaving it to him. Quote
DCOrange Posted January 23 Posted January 23 32 minutes ago, peterpan said: Watch some highlights of the other late 1st WRs. They are generally schemed wide open, never expected to make a contested catch, and catch a lot of balls against their chest. They might be able to make those spectacular plays but just haven’t seen it. Brian Thomas Jr also makes a lot of great impressive “NFL” plays i don’t want to imply I watch all these guys year round, I just watched the guys on this list. It just seemed pointless to keep investigating after seeing Legette. https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-draft-5-wide-receivers-who-could-sneak-into-first-round/ I definitely get it. It’s a good and deep WR class but picking as late as we currently are, you’re going to have to take WRs that have holes in their games. Just have to figure out which holes you think you can deal with really. Legette could definitely be good; guys with his size, speed, and physicality are very attractive prospects to gamble on. I definitely worry about how long it took him to make an impact and the press coverage stuff though given our specific needs. You might like Adonai Mitchell as well; he’s not as fast as Legette but he’s tall and generally considered a weirdly flexible route runner for someone his size. Keon Coleman is another contested catch merchant but comes with his own red flags too. Quote
KOKBILLS Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: FWIW, Dane Brugler from The Athletic just released his first two-round mock of the year based on what's hearing around the league and he does not have Legette going in the first two rounds. Seems like a lot of people have been turned off from him recently. Obviously plenty of time for that to change though. Well... I'm not sure what Mr Brugler was watching, or what anyone is saying... But I'll go ahead and trust my eyes... That kid is special... I get that he's a late bloomer... And yes he does let the ball get into his body from time to time. But he has shown the ability to pluck it in crazy good fashion too. And he pretty much catches everything anyway...so... I really don't see much of an issue with him. He's a power forward with 4.3 speed and crazy body control... I certainly hope the rest of the NFL is turned off by him. If the Bills get that kind of WR talent at #28 it would be amazing. I love this WR class and a lot of the guys in it. But Legette is my favorite after Nabers and Harrison. He's also a different kind of WR... He's 6-3-227... And unlike a lot of prospects who are rumored to have great speed but don't show it... You can literally see Legette's burst on the field. I was a massive DK Metcalf fan and wanted the Bills to take him in the 1st instead of Oliver. I think Legette is a mix of Metcalf and AJ Brown as far as his ceiling is concerned. Josh will make him All World... Quote
starrymessenger Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said: Well... I'm not sure what Mr Brugler was watching, or what anyone is saying... But I'll go ahead and trust my eyes... That kid is special... I get that he's a late bloomer... And yes he does let the ball get into his body from time to time. But he has shown the ability to pluck it in crazy good fashion too. And he pretty much catches everything anyway...so... I really don't see much of an issue with him. He's a power forward with 4.3 speed and crazy body control... I certainly hope the rest of the NFL is turned off by him. If the Bills get that kind of WR talent at #28 it would be amazing. I love this WR class and a lot of the guys in it. But Legette is my favorite after Nabers and Harrison. He's also a different kind of WR... He's 6-3-227... And unlike a lot of prospects who are rumored to have great speed but don't show it... You can literally see Legette's burst on the field. I was a massive DK Metcalf fan and wanted the Bills to take him in the 1st instead of Oliver. I think Legette is a mix of Metcalf and AJ Brown as far as his ceiling is concerned. Josh will make him All World... DK didn't go in the first two rounds either. That was a mistake they won't make again. I expect Leggett to go late first early second. 1 1 Quote
jaybills Posted January 23 Posted January 23 10 hours ago, boyst said: With the 28th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select: ___________ Safety or corner for sure. Quote
starrymessenger Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 6 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: For everyone wanting a WR - statistics say round # 1 picks are a coin flip relative to productivity in year #1. Agreed. That's why I'd like to supplement a (high) draft pick with a veteran free agent (assuming Gabe is gone). We can't afford Higgins or Ridley (who McD wouldn't want for other reasons). Pickings look slim. Maybe Mooney on an incentive laden deal. Has had a 1000 yard season. Still only 26. At least we could probably afford him. Maybe he would flourish with Josh. A lot different passing game than in Chicago. Edited January 23 by starrymessenger Quote
sven233 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 We need 2 WRs coming out of this draft. Ideally, you get one that by the end of the season is competing for WR1. The problem is going to be where we're picking. While this is a deep draft class for WR, there are a TON of teams that need one. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the top 7 WRs are off the board by the time our pick rolls around based on the amount of teams that need one. Not saying you can't still get one that turns out to be great.....of course you can. But in terms of the top guys going into the draft..... We might be too far out and we might find better value at another position because so many WRs come off the board early. Quote
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