Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Posted January 22 The difference in the game was a problem most of this season, no big chuck plays. Chiefs had 8 plays of 20 yards or more and Bills had O, so many passes that did not go 10 yards pass the line of scrimmage. How many short passes? Allen finished with 186 yards, that is not good enough The goal this offseason is bringing in another big play receiver and get back to being a big play offence that gets big chuck plays. Our receivers rarely create separation and Allen needs to throw into tight windows to make a play, sometimes resulting in interceptions 1 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Diggs and Sherfield BOTH dropped our ‘big plays’. 3 3 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Yep. The lack of separation downfield has been a big issue. We can get people open on rubs and crossers and the middle of the field stuff but we can't separate vertically. Personnel wise it is the #1 issue on this football team. Over the course of the year some of it has also been on Josh - his accuracy on deep shots has not been good enough. But all three deeper balls last night were thrown right where they needed to be and Sherfield x2 and Diggs couldn't come up with them. I don't think Brady is only running and dinking and dunking because he wants to. I think he is doing it because the second half of the year especially Cook, Kincaid and Shakir have been our three best offensive weapons. And while they are all good young players other than the occasional seam route for Kincaid they are going to be small ball players for the most part. They are not guys who are going to make plays regularly 25 yards down the field. 2 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Agree, we need to be more explosive on offense. But also maintain our ground game/short passing too. We just don't the WR weapons, simple as that. Took 3 chances deep yesterday, Sherfield 2x and Diggs 1x. All 3 were great passes. Diggs either playing through an injury or majorly regressed in 2nd half of season. I lean toward injury, based on what he showed to start the year. A legit #2, competition for Shakir, and some adjustments to scheme. Joe Brady showed he can run a short passing/efficient offense, but didn't "wow" me. He brought an aspect that Daboll and Dorsey lacked- a run game/short attack. He was running Dorseys scheme, so I'm confident he'd improve, question is how much? Quote
Low Positive Posted January 22 Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. The lack of separation downfield has been a big issue. We can get people open on rubs and crossers and the middle of the field stuff but we can't separate vertically. Personnel wise it is the #1 issue on this football team. Over the course of the year some of it has also been on Josh - his accuracy on deep shots has not been good enough. But all three deeper balls last night were thrown right where they needed to be and Sherfield x2 and Diggs couldn't come up with them. I don't think Brady is only running and dinking and dunking because he wants to. I think he is doing it because the second half of the year especially Cook, Kincaid and Shakir have been our three best offensive weapons. And while they are all good young players other than the occasional seam route for Kincaid they are going to be small ball players for the most part. They are not guys who are going to make plays regularly 25 yards down the field. If fans want to know what Brady actually wants to do, they should go look at 2019 LSU highlights. Burrow threw the ball all over the place to Chase and Jefferson. The Bills just don't have the players to do that. 1 Quote
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 22 Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Diggs and Sherfield BOTH dropped our ‘big plays’. Exactly. And Diggs has lost his speed and hands. 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Diggs and Sherfield BOTH dropped our ‘big plays’. 16 passes not 2 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, that is Trent Edwards level offence 1 minute ago, Brian Higgins hair said: Exactly. And Diggs has lost his speed and hands. Diggs was never super fast but he does look slower Quote
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: 16 passes not 2 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, that is Trent Edwards level offence No, you are so incredibly wrong here. The game plan was to control the ball and keep it away from Mahomes chewing on our depleted D Edited January 22 by Brian Higgins hair Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 (edited) 1 minute ago, Brian Higgins hair said: No, you are so incredibly wrong here. Go watch the tape, not enough passes down the field. It was 16 passes that did not go beyond the line of scrimmage Edited January 22 by Niagara Dude 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: 16 passes not 2 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, that is Trent Edwards level offence I have literally no idea what you want to see. The Bills were going toe to toe with the World Champions last night. The game wasn’t lost by a lack of so called big plays. It was lost because our kicker flat out sucks and our defense couldn’t stop the opponent…at all. Your wet dream of big plays would’ve just given the Chiefs offense the ball back even sooner. Big plays? Big deal! Al Davis just called and he wants his philosophy back. 😉 Edited January 22 by SoCal Deek 1 Quote
Avisan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: 16 passes not 2 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, that is Trent Edwards level offence It worked. If we stuck to that plan, we likely put up 31 points on an exceptional Chiefs D despite no field position help. Brady was ruthless with the dink and dunk. Sometimes that is what the defense is giving you. 1 Quote
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 22 Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Go watch the tape, not enough passes down the field. It was 16 passes that did not go beyond the line of scrimmage Watch the tape? I watched the game… Any fool could see that Mahomes/Kelce will have their way against our depleted and slow linebackers.. it was a good game plan. The big play receivers choked. Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I have literally no idea what you want to see. The Bills were going toe to toe with the World Champions last night. The game wasn’t lost by a lack of so called big plays. It was lost because our kicker flat out sucks and our defense couldn’t stop the opponent…at all. Your wet dream of big plays would’ve just given the Chiefs offense the ball back even sooner. Big plays? Big deal! Al Davis just called and he wants his philosophy back. 😉 LMAO! you really believe had he made that kick Mahomes is not going down the field for game winning FG? Your wet dream that has us stopping him with just under 2 mins when we could not stop him with 13 secs. Come on dude, they needed 7 to have any chance or were watching another late game game winning FG. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Trade Diggs and rebuild the WRs with young athletic freaks. Allen doesn’t need Diggs anymore. Diggs was a great addition but it’s time to move on. We have good underneath options in Kincaid and Shakir. We need a couple explosive WRs to pair with them. Quote
zow2 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 We had a few chunk plays completely botched by Sherfield and Diggs. Just a bad night for that to happen. 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: LMAO! you really believe had he made that kick Mahomes is not going down the field for game winning FG? Your wet dream that has us stopping him with just under 2 mins when we could not stop him with 13 secs. Come on dude, they needed 7 to have any chance or were watching another late game game winning FG. You do realize that your big plays make us score faster not slower, right? The Bills offensive game plan worked as well as it could have last night. They planned on controlling the ball and the clock and they just that. We had DOUBLE the plays and DOUBLE the time of possession. Unfortunately our defense simply couldn’t stop KC at all. Not even a little bit. 1 Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Posted January 22 You need big play guys to have a big play offense. And our big play guys can't catch the ball consistently Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You do realize that your big plays make us score faster not slower, right? The Bills offensive game plan worked as well as it could have last night. They planned on controlling the ball and the clock and they just that. We had DOUBLE the plays and DOUBLE the time of possession. Unfortunately our defense simply couldn’t stop KC at all. Not even a little bit. The goal is to score, we only scored 7 points in the second half 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. The lack of separation downfield has been a big issue. We can get people open on rubs and crossers and the middle of the field stuff but we can't separate vertically. Personnel wise it is the #1 issue on this football team. Over the course of the year some of it has also been on Josh - his accuracy on deep shots has not been good enough. But all three deeper balls last night were thrown right where they needed to be and Sherfield x2 and Diggs couldn't come up with them. I don't think Brady is only running and dinking and dunking because he wants to. I think he is doing it because the second half of the year especially Cook, Kincaid and Shakir have been our three best offensive weapons. And while they are all good young players other than the occasional seam route for Kincaid they are going to be small ball players for the most part. They are not guys who are going to make plays regularly 25 yards down the field. How much say will Brady have to get what he needs? Quote
Jrb1979 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You do realize that your big plays make us score faster not slower, right? The Bills offensive game plan worked as well as it could have last night. They planned on controlling the ball and the clock and they just that. We had DOUBLE the plays and DOUBLE the time of possession. Unfortunately our defense simply couldn’t stop KC at all. Not even a little bit. That offensive game plan worked so well that I managed to only score 7 points in the second half. Just now, Royale with Cheese said: How much say will Brady have to get what he needs? Unless they draft the offensive weapons, next season not much will change. They don't have the cap to spend on big upgrades Quote
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