Tyler Bass Contract

[BillsFanForever19]

27 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

You don't need to agree, you simply are being emotional and not basing it off facts.  Bass is squarely in the middle of "good" kickers over the last 3 years and is 3rd in XP percentage over that time.  The "clutch" kicker Butker is a few percentage points better than him, which is statistcailly meaningless really with how few attempts they get each year. You don't create a huge dead cap space to get a marginal, if any, upgrade.  That makes zero sense and only someone who is basing their decision on emption rather than logic would do that. Bass was also 9/9 before that kick in those situations.  You don't get rid of a guy who misses his first kick after making the other 9.

 

Guess 2am counts for Overreaction Monday.

 

 

Bass is 26/34 between the regular season and Post Season this year. That's 76% - basically one miss in every 4. He was an abysmal 2/5 in the Postseason, including a miss from 27 yards. One of two needed end of the game playoff clutch kicks that he choked on in back to back weeks (luckily we were bailed out by the Defense last week).

 

This is not an overreaction. Kickers have lost their jobs for a lot less.

Edited January 22 by BillsFanForever19

[Mikie2times]

59 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Considering in general, kicker consistency is the widest variable in the NFL from one year to the next outside of outliers like Justin Tucker

 

 

By all means, present your case 

[Gunsgoodtime]

Who cares, how about McDermotts contract?

[BillsFan692]

2 hours ago, Patrick Fitzryan said:

Very glad to hear that Norwood 2.0 has a contract that makes him essentially uncuttable. Awesome news!

Because its so smart to give contracts to punters like that....

[CheshireCT]

I blame Taylor Swift. Poor guy lost his focus with her swooshing around in the booth.

[JerseyBills]

I said all week he will cost us, just had a gut feeling 

[Bleedbuffaloblue]

5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

I said all week he will cost us, just had a gut feeling 

That missed kick didn’t cost us the game. The offense needed to score a touchdown on that last drive or wind the clock down a lot more than they did. Bass makes the kick and ties the game, then Mahomes leads the Chiefs down the field for a game winning FG in the final seconds. Our depleted defense couldn’t stop the Chiefs.

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, Bleedbuffaloblue said:

That missed kick didn’t cost us the game. The offense needed to score a touchdown on that last drive or wind the clock down a lot more than they did. Bass makes the kick and ties the game, then Mahomes leads the Chiefs down the field for a game winning FG in the final seconds. Our depleted defense couldn’t stop the Chiefs.

Except we stopped them 2 previous drives, including a 3 and out and b.s pi on 3rd and then got em to gov3 and out again on same drive. You could be right but the D really stepped up in the 4th

[waterglass]

After being born and living in Buffalo for most of my life we now live in South Carolina in a town that is  five miles from where Tyler Bass was raised in Irmo, SC. That is Univsersity of South Carolina, SEC NCAA country. The rest of South Carolina is Clemson. Tyler is a warm weather kicker who for whatever reason didnt attend a large SEC football program even though he was awarded the best high school kicker award. 

 

Hmm, so ask yourself why didnt he go to a big program? Less stress? USC is a mere 20 minute drive from his home town of Irmo, South Carolina and Clemson on is a two hour drive. It could be just the timing of the incombants. 

 

Something is in this guys head unlike any other kicker I have ever witnessed as he at times will pulverize a kick with so much force it knuckleballs to th extreme. 

 

In my opinion hes got the Mcdermotts between the ears.

 

I dont know if he can be fixed. 

[SoCal Deek]

So if our cap experts are correct then the answer is simple…Beane is a disaster. Pegula can decide whether he moves on. 

[Low Positive]

5 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Who cares, how about McDermotts contract?

I know that you're joking, but coach contracts don't count against the cap. Money won't be the reason that McDermott is not let go.

[Bob Jones]

I don’t think Bass deserves to be cut. Last week his foot slipped on the turf when he duck hooked that one kick. And yesterday the wind seemed to have a great effect on the ball.

 

I know in the game day thread some people were saying he's got a "bad slice", similar to what a golf hacker does. Question: is that even possible, considering the physics of it? I'm no scientist, but I don’t even think it's physically possible to put the spin on an oblong ball during a FG try, to make it "slice" like a golf ball does. If the kick is hit properly, AND the ball is tumbling end over end, there can be zero side spin on it. The latter is very different from a punt, which of course can have sidespin, as the foot contact the ball in a totally different way vs a placekick.

[Brandon]

They can eat that contract if they need to,  but there may be an injury issue or something we don't know about.  They also need to cull a lot of dead weight that's more of a problem,  both on the field and in terms of cap impact,  than the kicker.  If they think they can fix Bass,  I'm fine with giving him another chance. 

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Bass is 26/34 between the regular season and Post Season this year. That's 76% - basically one miss in every 4. He was an abysmal 2/5 in the Postseason, including a miss from 27 yards. One of two needed end of the game playoff clutch kicks that he choked on in back to back weeks (luckily we were bailed out by the Defense last week).

 

This is not an overreaction. Kickers have lost their jobs for a lot less.

 

Every kicker has a down season. Pretty much across the board. That's the nature of the NFL kicking in weather and only getting few attempts that cause every miss to be a large percentage.

 

Plenty of dome kickers have the same issue. What's their excuse?

3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

I don’t think Bass deserves to be cut. Last week his foot slipped on the turf when he duck hooked that one kick. And yesterday the wind seemed to have a great effect on the ball.

 

I know in the game day thread some people were saying he's got a "bad slice", similar to what a golf hacker does. Question: is that even possible, considering the physics of it? I'm no scientist, but I don’t even think it's physically possible to put the spin on an oblong ball during a FG try, to make it "slice" like a golf ball does. If the kick is hit properly, AND the ball is tumbling end over end, there can be zero side spin on it. The latter is very different from a punt, which of course can have sidespin, as the foot contact the ball in a totally different way vs a placekick.

 

Yes it's possible. I kicked for a few years in 2 leagues...flag and touch football. While I am no expert I played soccer for 25+ years growing up and kicked footballs 4-5 time a week when the weather was nice going to the high school nearby for 6-7 months starting in March during that time.

 

You definitely can hook the ball depending on where your foot makes contact with it, no different than a soccer ball, although kicking the two are completely different. Took me a few days to not consistently kick the football into the ground when I first started as you have a different target on the football than the soccer ball typically.

 

However in this case, I don't think the ball was hooked, I just think he didn't push the ball far enough left. Donn Paul posted the winds had picked up to 21 mph at 9pm which is plenty strong to push longer kicks like that.

Edited January 22 by Big Turk

[VaMilBill]

6 hours ago, Process said:

We just gave Bass a big extension this offseason. At the time it seemed like a no brainer. He was so good before this season. Such a shame.

 

How screwed are we with the dead cap on his deal for 2024?

 

Not saying we shouldn't give him another shot. Just wondering if cutting him is even a realistic option if it comes to that. 

 

3 misses in 2 playoff games, after a rough regular season, is hard to accept. 

Regardless of the cap hit, if he struggles in camp you can’t go into the season with him. I have a feeling he will not be starting for us week 1. I think we are gonna hope he gets better in the off-season, he won’t, and we will sign a cheap guy who was just cut by another team right before the season starts. 

[DeltaDigital]

7 hours ago, Process said:

We just gave Bass a big extension this offseason. At the time it seemed like a no brainer. He was so good before this season. Such a shame.

 

How screwed are we with the dead cap on his deal for 2024?

 

Not saying we shouldn't give him another shot. Just wondering if cutting him is even a realistic option if it comes to that. 

 

3 misses in 2 playoff games, after a rough regular season, is hard to accept. 

This is disgusting 

[TheWeatherMan]

7 hours ago, Chugga said:

If the loss doesn’t hurt enough just look at some of these contracts.  Yikes

Buffalo Bills now have the leagues worst contract for Kicker, Tight End, Defensive End and possibly WR once we find out what’s wrong with Diggs.  

[Shortchaz]

Said it before, Bass is the personification of the McDermott era 

[Bleedbuffaloblue]

3 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Except we stopped them 2 previous drives, including a 3 and out and b.s pi on 3rd and then got em to gov3 and out again on same drive. You could be right but the D really stepped up in the 4th

Well, obviously we will never know for sure what would have happened, but I just can’t see crucifying Bass for losing the game because of missing that FG.

[BearNorth]

7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

if there is not an injury issue that they have kept silent for weeks … he is gone … they can’t have him back next year 

The injury is to his psyche, no coach, trainer or doctor can fix that.