Big Blitz Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 He’s still here playing while the other QBs mentioned in this thread are home or haven’t won their divisions let alone a playoff game. Burrow can’t stay on the field - does Higgins leave? Herbert? Has to deal with Mahomes. Lamar? Same division as Burrow. Stroud? We’ll see how good he is on a post Slowick team. Lawrence? I mean I don’t even know. Allen has done more with less than all these QBs have - including Stroud who has nice weapons and a great oline (Tank Dell and Nico - not 1st round picks btw). No reason to think this won’t just stay the same but eventually he’s going to play with talent on offense similar to what those teams have. Quote
Low Positive Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: He’s still here playing while the other QBs mentioned in this thread are home or haven’t won their divisions let alone a playoff game. Burrow can’t stay on the field - does Higgins leave? Herbert? Has to deal with Mahomes. Lamar? Same division as Burrow. Stroud? We’ll see how good he is on a post Slowick team. Lawrence? I mean I don’t even know. Allen has done more with less than all these QBs have - including Stroud who has nice weapons and a great oline (Tank Dell and Nico - not 1st round picks btw). No reason to think this won’t just stay the same but eventually he’s going to play with talent on offense similar to what those teams have. News here in Cincinnati is that Higgins wants to be a Bengal for life and will be tagged and they will run in back with a healthy Burrow and a 4th-place schedule. Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 1 minute ago, Low Positive said: News here in Cincinnati is that Higgins wants to be a Bengal for life and will be tagged and they will run in back with a healthy Burrow and a 4th-place schedule. That division isn’t a 4th place schedule and neither is the AFC. The AFC North plays the NFC East in 2024. Bengals are also at the Chiefs and at the Cowboys. Quote
Governor Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 Yeah, it’s not happening under McD. The defense is “all time” bad after using all of the team’s resources on it. We really couldn’t be in a worse situation with a HC that’s also our DC. There’s no way to fix it. Quote
Governor Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Josh is off the charts amazing but he's literally expected to do F-ing EVERYTHING. I'm so sick of watching this clap show. Our defensive guru makes Josh change style and tempo at the snap of his fingers at various points of games because he doesn’t want his awful defense on the field. His specialty. A defensive guru should want Josh to score as quickly as possible so he can get his defense back out there to get a quick stop and then score again! Edited January 22, 2024 by Governor Quote
DapperCam Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 Is he going to be the alumni who leads the charge for the 2040 Bills that finally break through? 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 3 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: The Chargers said that w/ Philip Rivers. Here is the thing that infuriates me with this comparison. The Bills led by Josh Allen have now made it to the playoffs 5 straight seasons. The Chargers haven't done that... ever. Josh Allen has a single player on offense who might make the HOF in Diggs. Rivers had 1st ballot HOFer Tomlinson and likely 1st ballot HOFer Antonio Gates (we find out soon) along with an amazing gadget guy in Darren Sproles and a really solid #1 WR in Vincent Jackson. Allen does all the heavy lifting. Rivers did not. I realize this comparison is going to be made until Allen wins or gets to a Super Bowl, but Allen’s career is so far beyond Rivers the comparison is ridiculous. Allen will be a 1st ballot HOFer. Rivers will not. Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Here is the thing that infuriates me with this comparison. The Bills led by Josh Allen have now made it to the playoffs 5 straight seasons. The Chargers haven't done that... ever. Josh Allen has a single player on offense who might make the HOF in Diggs. Rivers had 1st ballot HOFer Tomlinson and likely 1st ballot HOFer Antonio Gates (we find out soon) along with an amazing gadget guy in Darren Sproles and a really solid #1 WR in Vincent Jackson. Allen does all the heavy lifting. Rivers did not. I realize this comparison is going to be made until Allen wins or gets to a Super Bowl, but Allen’s career is so far beyond Rivers the comparison is ridiculous. Allen will be a 1st ballot HOFer. Rivers will not. It's NOT about Allen it's about the TEAM (players, coaches, all of it). It's not a shot at Allen & people need to stop being so sensitive about that. The QB is just the way of identifying which Chargers team we're talking about. This TEAM looks more like that TEAM than any Superbowl Winning Team. It's a fair comparison. You can also compare them to the Marino led Dolphins if it makes people feel better. Point is the same the TEAM is talked about as perennial contenders when they're really just perennial pretenders who choke & get exposed every year by the real contenders. Then everyone says "they'll do it next year", except it never ever happens. That is the reality of what this TEAM IS until they win a SB (which right now they can't even reach). Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 5 hours ago, Low Positive said: News here in Cincinnati is that Higgins wants to be a Bengal for life Yeah and I want a daily from Liz Hurley but that ain't happening either. Quote
JerseyBills Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, bills6969 said: It’s going to happen. Multiple SBs I think at least 3, he still has 9 10 elite years, minimum and been a play or 2 away from advancing in the last 3 seasons Edited January 22, 2024 by JerseyBills 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 8 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Not with McDermott we aren't. And for all the picks spent,Beane still hasn't found an Alpha stud on the DL or at WR in the draft. Oliver is an Alfa stud on the DL. Daquan Jones is an Alpha stud on the DL. Yes, the dirth of drafted WRs is discouraging, but the jury on Shakir is still out as he is developing into a star. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Oliver is an Alfa stud on the DL. Nnnnnnnn I don't think so. Had a good ish year but was utterly invisible the past two weeks Quote
Chandler#81 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Nnnnnnnn I don't think so. Had a good ish year but was utterly invisible the past two weeks Your opinion is worthy, though 2 weeks is quite a knee-jerk reaction. He’s been a special player since he was Drafted as proven by being rewarded with a lucrative 2nd contract. Is he HOF worthy at this time? No, but he’s still young and very good. Would all 31 of other teams would love to have him on their squads? Yes. That's the measure of the NFL. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Your opinion is worthy, though 2 weeks is quite a knee-jerk reaction. He’s been a special player since he was Drafted as proven by being rewarded with a lucrative 2nd contract. Is he HOF worthy at this time? No, but he’s still young and very good. Would all 31 of other teams would love to have him on their squads? Yes. That's the measure of the NFL. I can name two teams in our division who wouldn't 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 55 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I can name two teams in our division who wouldn't 🤣 You’re just understandably bitter. But yes, they WOULD love to have Oliver -if only in a rotational starter. But they can’t afford it right now. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 Just now, Chandler#81 said: 🤣 You’re just understandably bitter. But yes, they WOULD love to have Oliver -if only in a rotational starter. But they can’t afford it right now. They can't afford it at ALL, especially considering he'd be second string behind their actual starters. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 17 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: They can't afford it at ALL, especially considering he'd be second string behind their actual starters. C’mon, man. Every team who cares to win has rotational DL. 🙄 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Oliver is an Alfa stud on the DL. Daquan Jones is an Alpha stud on the DL. Yes, the dirth of drafted WRs is discouraging, but the jury on Shakir is still out as he is developing into a star. Where was Oliver last night? MIA. Alpha studs show up when the games mean something, not trying for a 500k bonus 1 Quote
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