So we're firing McD, right?

[mannc]

If McDermott were fired, would anyone hire him as HC?  I would imagine the Panthers might give him a look, but I can’t think of anyone else.

[Bob Jones]

9 hours ago, uticaclub said:

If we kick the FG, we still lose 

I’ve seen this posted over and over again in the last few days, and yes, it seemed *likely* that the Chiefs would have marched down the fold and gotten a game winning FG, BUT….there are no guarantees. It certainly wasn’t an absolute, and anything could have happened (INT, strip sack, fumble, defense holds and they punt & Bills get ball and get GW FG).

[uticaclub]

3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

I’ve seen this posted over and over again in the last few days, and yes, it seemed *likely* that the Chiefs would have marched down the fold and gotten a game winning FG, BUT….there are no guarantees. It certainly wasn’t an absolute, and anything could have happened (INT, strip sack, fumble, defense holds and they punt & Bills get ball and get GW FG).

Sure, anything could happen. But its far more likely Mahomes puts together a drive and we lose.

1 hour ago, mannc said:

If McDermott were fired, would anyone hire him as HC?  I would imagine the Panthers might give him a look, but I can’t think of anyone else.

He would hired as a HC in 2024, help that team improve while giving the Bills the chance to reach the next level

[TheFunPolice]

on WGR this morning they read this incredible stat: in the 4 most recent playoff losses (KC,KC,CIN,KC) McDermott's defenses forced a TOTAL of 6 punts in 4 games, with 1 total turnover forced (the goal line fumble this weekend) and zero sacks or INT. 

 

That's a pattern, not "well, injuries..."

 

How will it be different next time around? That's the real question. What evidence is there? 

 

To even get to, let alone win, a Super Bowl you are going to have to beat the top QBs and coaches. This isn't Brady's AFC where he had 2 games to win against the Titans and Jaguars to get there. 

Edited January 23 by TheFunPolice

[boyst]

21 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

But Mahomes is Michael Jordan.

mahomes is lebron james.

 

there is only one jordan and there will never be a jordan.

 

kids just don't understand how damn good jordan was - and i grew up a pistons fan.

 

*brady is kobe bryant.

 

**james is so good because he is excellent, but the game has evolved to make him as amazing as he is. that was not the case for brady who had to be among the first to enter the modern era getting his ass beat. jordan played when defenses mauled guards, you had to......you know, actually dribble the ball? yep, when jordan played traveling was a thing, so was charging, so was double dribble. this is also about how the NBA is a ocmplete joke

Edited January 23 by boyst

[TheFunPolice]

Just now, boyst said:

mahomes is lebron james.

 

there is only one jordan and there will never be a jordan.

 

kids just don't understand how damn good jordan was - and i grew up a pistons fan.

 

brady is kobe bryant.

 

I agree 100%. 

 

Also, I can't wait until "Mahomes is the GOAT" is the unquestionable line and if you bring up Brady you'll get shouted down. I'll actually enjoy that I think. 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

I agree 100%. 

 

Also, I can't wait until "Mahomes is the GOAT" is the unquestionable line and if you bring up Brady you'll get shouted down. I'll actually enjoy that I think. 

see my update to the post.

 

brady did it before the game evolved into pussyball that mahomes plays. brady was not even good until his 4th or 5th year. mahomes hit the ground running with an elite offensive head coach while brady had to learn and get crushed while his elite head coach led the defense.

 

 

[phypon]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

see my update to the post.

 

brady did it before the game evolved into pussyball that mahomes plays. brady was not even good until his 4th or 5th year. mahomes hit the ground running with an elite offensive head coach while brady had to learn and get crushed while his elite head coach led the defense.

 

 

Remember that hit by Nate Clements (think it was him).  He'd probably get ejected in today's game for that hit on Brady.

[Maynard]

Terry needs to make a move, unless he’s blind or oblivious to the matter.

 

Harbaugh, Carroll, Vrabel, Belichick. Take your pick. Do it now though. Time be a ticking quickly! 

[DrDawkinstein]

5 hours ago, mannc said:

If McDermott were fired, would anyone hire him as HC?  I would imagine the Panthers might give him a look, but I can’t think of anyone else.

 

He'd be a shoe-in for the Panthers job. Could probably land the Chargers job if they werent already focused on Harbaugh.

 

I could even see Atlanta and Washington being interested since those teams are similar to the drought era Bills that McD took on in 2017.

[LarryMadman]

15 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Terry needs to make a move, unless he’s blind or oblivious to the matter.

 

Harbaugh, Carroll, Vrabel, Belichick. Take your pick. Do it now though. Time be a ticking quickly! 

You know what is very interesting to me is that none of these guys have committed and signed anywhere yet. Why is that, do they know something we dont about the Bills plans? Are they waiting because they all know a Bills HC vacancy automatically makes the Bills the #1 destination because of Josh Allen and it isnt even close. Very interesting times indeed.

[TheFunPolice]

IMO the "secret story" is Pegula has spoken to Belichick about his interest in coming here as HC. 

 

Obviously it couldn't come out unless it gets done, thus local guys are sitting on it and nobody wants the Dunne treatment because everyone involved would deny it anyway, you'd be ridiculed, and it might even make it not happen. It would be the last time you ever had any access to the team. But "Belichick and the Bills" has popped up in enough rumors the past few days that it makes me wonder. 

 

It fits the "bill" (no pun intended):

 

1. Only a few would know and it would be top, top secret because of the optics and PR (not sure there's any written rule that says you can't talk with a free agent coach while you have a coach, though. Doesn't have to be an "interview" just a conversation). 

 

2. Would obviously be something that could not come out unless it gets done 

 

3. IF it came out that Pegula was speaking to Belichick about coming here while McDermott was preparing for a playoff game, of course it would be a real negative for McDermott, to say the least. 

 

After the Dunne piece, this is the only potential McDermott story that would be the end for him here, given that I can't see him having done anything wrong/bad/immoral and he's already been accused of pretty much everything possible in the "he said, she said" category by Tyler Dunne. 

 

I think it's that: Pegula spoke to Belichick about coming here, and there are obviously some people who know about it. Reporters aren't going to publish that with their name on it, and sources would out themselves by discussing it. 

 

So you get Florio being cute about "a team without a current opening" being a suitor for Belichick, and today's "Would the Bills consider a coaching change?" article. Rex Ryan saying "he wouldn't be shocked" to see the Bills hire BB. 

 

I would. I'll say that. Be shocked I mean. So that's just odd. 

Edited January 23 by TheFunPolice

[london_bills]

5 hours ago, mannc said:

If McDermott were fired, would anyone hire him as HC?  I would imagine the Panthers might give him a look, but I can’t think of anyone else.

Loads of teams would hire him. Carolina, Washington, Atlanta, New England etc etc

[Ga boy]

4 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

I’ve seen this posted over and over again in the last few days, and yes, it seemed *likely* that the Chiefs would have marched down the fold and gotten a game winning FG, BUT….there are no guarantees. It certainly wasn’t an absolute, and anything could have happened (INT, strip sack, fumble, defense holds and they punt & Bills get ball and get GW FG).

Agree.  If Shakir gets the TD, we lose too.  We gotta be up by 9 with 1:30 to go and they play 4 downs. Go 🦬

[london_bills]

Just for the record I think it's now time to go for a young offensive mind at HC.

[Ga boy]

36 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

on WGR this morning they read this incredible stat: in the 4 most recent playoff losses (KC,KC,CIN,KC) McDermott's defenses forced a TOTAL of 6 punts in 4 games, with 1 total turnover forced (the goal line fumble this weekend) and zero sacks or INT. 

 

That's a pattern, not "well, injuries..."

 

How will it be different next time around? That's the real question. What evidence is there? 

 

To even get to, let alone win, a Super Bowl you are going to have to beat the top QBs and coaches. This isn't Brady's AFC where he had 2 games to win against the Titans and Jaguars to get there. 

Does any team get sacks and picks against KC in playoffs?  Their schemes and skills mean they don’t beat themselves.  Can’t say the same for our team.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

Does any team get sacks and picks against KC in playoffs?  Their schemes and skills mean they don’t beat themselves.  Can’t say the same for our team.

 

In the 2021 AFC Championship, the Bengals got 4 sacks and 2 INTs.

 

Same when Tampa beat them in the SB. 3 sacks, 2 INTs.

 

That's how you beat them. It is possible. It has been done. (Yes, it is very difficult)

 

Edited January 23 by DrDawkinstein

[TheFunPolice]

4 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

Does any team get sacks and picks against KC in playoffs?  Their schemes and skills mean they don’t beat themselves.  Can’t say the same for our team.

 

Sacked 4 times vs Bengals in the AFC Title Game (at home)  also threw 2 INT

Sacked 4 times vs Patriots in the AFC Title Game (at home) 

Sacked 3 times in the Super Bowl vs Tampa also threw 2 INT

 

Our defense has played him 3 times now. 0 sacks. 0 INT. 

 

With all of the investment on the DL, that is flat out unacceptable.  

 

Actually, the defense played its best game against Mahomes and the Chiefs this time around, finally forcing a fumble and holding them under 30 points. 

 

It's hard, no doubt. The deep rounds of the playoffs are when you face the real teams that actually deserve to be there, not the Wild Card cannon fodder. 

 

 

Edited January 23 by TheFunPolice

[london_bills]

7 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

Agree.  If Shakir gets the TD, we lose too.  We gotta be up by 9 with 1:30 to go and they play 4 downs. Go 🦬

That's why it was surprising that josh went for the TD there

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

Does any team get sacks and picks against KC in playoffs?  Their schemes and skills mean they don’t beat themselves.  Can’t say the same for our team.

Of course they do lol