Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread

[BillsfaninCT]

of course we're looking for the throw to digs... it's 2nd down, don't need a touch down right there and why on earth would you WILLINGLY give the ball back to KC in the context of this game and this history of these 2 teams and the state of our defense when you have the option to get a few yards towards the 1st down, then do something on 3rd down to maybe get it.

 

the game isn't about the touchdown first, the game is about running out the clock, if literally shouldn't lose running out the clock cause the field goal is like a 25 yarder at the 15 after a 1st down

 

throwing to shakir was the worst of the 2 options between shakir and diggs Josh had in that moment.. and why we are even throwing the ball is more dumb founding if you're gonna kick the FG anyways lol.  if the offense can't net 2-3 yards on 2nd and 3rd down runs you lose nothing lol and run the clock with a higher probability on a tie for O.T.

 

the only logic to score a TD with 1:50 on the game is you expect your defense to stop KC.... do you honestly believe that is the best decision?

Edited January 22 by BillsfaninCT

[DuckyBoys]

Nah he should have taken the underneath throw and backing up one audibled out of the run and got something on 1st down. But were nitpicking one or two plays by the qb while the D line had all game to come up with one and failed   Spagnolo put his d in better position than Brady did for Allen .  Mahomes missed bunch of throws and it didnt matter  Chiefs dont have to ask their qb to make a bazillion plays each game   Only the Bills trot out Allen and ask him to be perfect on 50+ snaps  Lets face it Bills outclassed again in the coaching/adjustments arena  Only in the game  thanks to flukey fumble at goal line and Chiefs not coming up with Josh's fumble and the pass to the sideline few plays later.  Once they adjusted to the Bills run game and started B word smacking the defense you knew it was over

[Simon]

3 hours ago, Jukester said:

Exactly.  If Josh would've just climbed the pocket 2 steps and let it rip, we're talking about possibly the game winning touchdown.  The throw to Shakir is absolutely the right read.

 

If he tries to climb the pocket the throw is late

[Buffalo Ballin]

Time for Bass to remove the "B" from his name.

 

Anyway, yeah, Bass better have Scott Norwood's video conferencing ready ASAP.

 

 

[Dick_Cheney]

If KC wins it all, does Kelce retire? Does he retire anyways alongside his brother?

[Scott7975]

41 minutes ago, BillsfaninCT said:

the game isn't about the touchdown first, the game is about running out the clock, if literally shouldn't lose running out the clock cause the field goal is like a 25 yarder at the 15 after a 1st down

 

When its likely your last possession, the game is absolutely about getting the TD first.

[Goin Breakdown]

This obviously does NOT apply to everyone as I know there are good people out there

 

look as a human I feel for him. As an employee, I don't feel bad for him that he missed. He gets paid a lot of money to make this kicks. No one feels bad for me when I mess up at my job BUT to treat a person like garbage because of a game?  All this bull crap about the Bills Madia being family, is pretty much that. Bull crap. It only exists when we are winning?  Stop throwing ice balls. Stop treating people like trash. 

[Scott7975]

30 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

If he tries to climb the pocket the throw is late

 

He also would have easily been sacked by Jones shedding the block he had leverage on and being next to Allen with no one around.

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

This obviously does NOT apply to everyone as I know there are good people out there

 

look as a human I feel for him. As an employee, I don't feel bad for him that he missed. He gets paid a lot of money to make this kicks. No one feels bad for me when I mess up at my job BUT to treat a person like garbage because of a game?  All this bull crap about the Bills Madia being family, is pretty much that. Bull crap. It only exists when we are winning?  Stop throwing ice balls. Stop treating people like trash. 

 

Bills mafia is weak. Their claim to fame is "we went to the good weather games during the drought years" and jump through tables, and drink shots from a bowling ball.  Harassing a player is disgusting.  They were equally soft in the stadium.  All week I heard about how KC would have a tough time in our stadium because it would be so loud.  They were all drunk and on their phones by half time.  Tight game all game and this soft crowd wasn't even loud enough to make Mahomes use a silent count.  Perhaps they should harass themselves.

Edited January 22 by Scott7975

[BillsfaninCT]

12 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

When its likely your last possession, the game is absolutely about getting the TD first.

to ensure it is your last possession, you run the clock out by getting a first down.

in your scenario and the one they attempted the defense has to make a stop with 1:50 left in the game and there isn't quantitative evidence to believe in this game or from the past playoff games the defense makes that stop

so the fundamental problem is the clock, not the TD because the field goal could've been at least 5yrds closer if not more.

it's a bad decision to prioritize the touchdown over the clock

 

the strategy there is to not let KC get the ball back and at worse kick the FG as time in regulation expires.

 

the entire approach relied on the defense making a stop.

if you believe the defense can make a stop, why we playing 6 games and 58 minutes the like they can't?  it's like the game plan got thrown out with 2 mins to go.

Edited January 22 by BillsfaninCT

[Scott7975]

Just now, BillsfaninCT said:

to ensure it is your last possession, you run the clock out by getting a first down.

you'd have to believe in your scenario that the defense makes a stop, there's no reason to believe that and it's not necessary to do to start with.

 

When a TD is there you take it.  There is never a sure TD. You may never get a wide open receiver in the endzone like that again.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

This whole season is on McDermott. 
 

This team should have easily been the 1 seed rather than giving games away to Zac Wilson and Mac Jones, 12 men on the field, routinely squeaking out wins playing down to competition like Easton Stick and Bailey Zappe.

This team is getting credit for going on a winning streak and squeaking out the division when it never should’ve been close in the first place.

 

Seriously, trade him to Carolina, it’s a win win scenario.

 

 

[Success]

I promised to stay away from the media - but failed. It's making me sad how the game has become one more in this neverending referendum on Josh Allen.

 

The expectations of him are comical at this point. And if you point out that once again, he carried the team & got almost no help, you're "making excuses" for him. Because he's just not a "big game player."

 

And all anyone talks about is his "choice" to go to the EZ instead of to Diggs - like he had time to draw up a list of pros and cons, and look at all of the options in front of him w/ about 2 seconds.  And he likely gets hit on a throw to Diggs also.

 

We're not talking about a 2 INT game where JA just didn't show.  Every one of those 24 points was his play, which was as good a performance as many that have been nationally praised for other QB's, because their teams happened to win.

 

[BillsfaninCT]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

When a TD is there you take it.  There is never a sure TD. You may never get a wide open receiver in the endzone like that again.

no you don't!  cause you don't win the game that way in this scenario.  we didn't need the end zone, we needed the clock run out and kick a 20yd field goal, then get a 50/50 coin toss to get the ball in O.T. and on the premise, the likely one, neither D stops either offense the bills win on the 2nd score.

 

it's terrible coaching, execution or something.

[Goin Breakdown]

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Bills mafia is weak. Their claim to fame is "we went to the good weather games during the drought years" and jump through tables, and drink shots from a bowling ball.  Harassing a player is disgusting.  They were equally soft in the stadium.  All week I heard about how KC would have a tough time in our stadium because it would be so loud.  They were all drunk and on their phones by half time.  Tight game all game and this soft crowd wasn't even loud enough to make Mahomes use a silent count.  Perhaps they should harass themselves.

We got pics of fans crying (I kinda get it emotions are high)

throwing ice balls

and now this

Bills fans do an awful great job at calling out other fans for being horrible yet act the same. I know people who won't even go to a game for fear of our fans. 
Again it's not everyone. We certainly do have some great people that support this team. 
I'm just seeing the media portraying the fan base as a bunch of hostile weak bullies right now and that's not who we're supposed to be. 

[Scott7975]

11 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

We got pics of fans crying (I kinda get it emotions are high)

throwing ice balls

and now this

Bills fans do an awful great job at calling out other fans for being horrible yet act the same. I know people who won't even go to a game for fear of our fans. 
Again it's not everyone. We certainly do have some great people that support this team. 
I'm just seeing the media portraying the fan base as a bunch of hostile weak bullies right now and that's not who we're supposed to be. 

 

Oh, 100% its not everyone and every fan base has bad apples and fairweather fans.  

14 minutes ago, BillsfaninCT said:

no you don't!  cause you don't win the game that way in this scenario.  we didn't need the end zone, we needed the clock run out and kick a 20yd field goal, then get a 50/50 coin toss to get the ball in O.T. and on the premise, the likely one, neither D stops either offense the bills win on the 2nd score.

 

it's terrible coaching, execution or something.

 

You and I are never going to agree.  I will at this point just agree to disagree with you instead of arguing in circles.

100% this.  Full text so you don't have to click

 

Travis Kelce didn’t have a single game in the 18 before last night’s with more than 1 touchdown. Shows up to Highmark and catches 5 passes on 6 targets for 75 yards and 2 TDs! Stefon Diggs’ last 100-yard game was in Week 6. He caught 3 passes on 8 targets for 21 yards and 0 TDs last night. Neither Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen have a great collection of weapons. You needed the stars to shine last night. KC’s did and Buffalo’s no. 1 option didn’t. He had his chances. It’s hard to win in the playoffs when your best players don’t produce. Same goes for Ed Oliver.

[Shortchaz]

36 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

This obviously does NOT apply to everyone as I know there are good people out there

 

look as a human I feel for him. As an employee, I don't feel bad for him that he missed. He gets paid a lot of money to make this kicks. No one feels bad for me when I mess up at my job BUT to treat a person like garbage because of a game?  All this bull crap about the Bills Madia being family, is pretty much that. Bull crap. It only exists when we are winning?  Stop throwing ice balls. Stop treating people like trash. 

I guess he should’ve picked a different career. 

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, BillsfaninCT said:

of course we're looking for the throw to digs... it's 2nd down, don't need a touch down right there and why on earth would you WILLINGLY give the ball back to KC in the context of this game and this history of these 2 teams and the state of our defense when you have the option to get a few yards towards the 1st down, then do something on 3rd down to maybe get it.

 

the game isn't about the touchdown first, the game is about running out the clock, if literally shouldn't lose running out the clock cause the field goal is like a 25 yarder at the 15 after a 1st down

 

throwing to shakir was the worst of the 2 options between shakir and diggs Josh had in that moment.. and why we are even throwing the ball is more dumb founding if you're gonna kick the FG anyways lol.  if the offense can't net 2-3 yards on 2nd and 3rd down runs you lose nothing lol and run the clock with a higher probability on a tie for O.T.

 

the only logic to score a TD with 1:50 on the game is you expect your defense to stop KC.... do you honestly believe that is the best decision?

Agreed but the prior possession the D stopped em for 3 yards on 6 plays, that's a fact 

[Goin Breakdown]

19 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Oh, 100% its not everyone and every fan base has bad apples and fairweather fans.  

 

You and I are never going to agree.  I will at this point just agree to disagree with you instead of arguing in circles.

100% this.  Full text so you don't have to click

 

Travis Kelce didn’t have a single game in the 18 before last night’s with more than 1 touchdown. Shows up to Highmark and catches 5 passes on 6 targets for 75 yards and 2 TDs! Stefon Diggs’ last 100-yard game was in Week 6. He caught 3 passes on 8 targets for 21 yards and 0 TDs last night. Neither Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen have a great collection of weapons. You needed the stars to shine last night. KC’s did and Buffalo’s no. 1 option didn’t. He had his chances. It’s hard to win in the playoffs when your best players don’t produce. Same goes for Ed Oliver.

Anyone would shine playing a defense as depleted as our was. Great Job at being awesome Mahomes. 

[Beast]

I was reflecting back on these and past playoff games today.

 

I came to the realization that I actually enjoy regular season football more than playoff football. You still want to win in a bad way but you know that there will also be a game next week.

 

Playoff football? I almost get too worked up to actually enjoy the game.

 

I know. Wierd.