78thealltimegreat Posted January 22 Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: That's a no brainier. I'd do it yesterday. All day everyday. Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and it's not even close. He's a winner and I wouldn't doubt if he challenges Brady's ring count. Jefferson is an absolute monster. Team them both up and I can coach them to the playoffs. Heck, McD might be able to win a divisional round playoff game. Tell you what you can have Pat Mahomes in Buffalo with Rick Dennison, Brian Daboll, and Ken Dorsey calling the plays if I can have Josh Allen tutored by Andy Reid from the beginning. 2 Quote
newcam2012 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Tell you what you can have Pat Mahomes in Buffalo with Rick Dennison, Brian Daboll, and Ken Dorsey calling the plays if I can have Josh Allen tutored by Andy Reid from the beginning. That wasn't the question. Allen with Reid would produce multiple rings. Allen with McD equals divisional playoff losses. So where's the problem? Edited January 22 by newcam2012 2 Quote
stevewin Posted January 22 Posted January 22 9 hours ago, chongli said: This literally haunted my dreams 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 22 Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: That's a no brainier. I'd do it yesterday. All day everyday. Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and it's not even close. He's a winner and I wouldn't doubt if he challenges Brady's ring count. Jefferson is an absolute monster. Team them both up and I can coach them to the playoffs. Heck, McD might be able to win a divisional round playoff game. Mahomes was not a sure thing at all coming out of college. He didn't win in the Big 12 and he was coming from the Air Raid offense that had yet to produce an NFL QB. In hindsight, it was a poor decision to trade that pick but at the time the Chiefs took a pretty big risk. The fact that he can sit in the pocket and run through his progressions is a huge surprise because he never did that in high school or college. There is also no guarantee that the Bills take Jefferson. Remember, Jalen Reagor was drafted before him. Quote
Danger Mouse Posted January 22 Posted January 22 The Morning after - and I'm not so mad anymore. ***** happens and I've enjoyed this - very frustrating - season. My conclusion is we lost it in the first half, under Dorsey, trying too much to pacify Diggs and losing to terrible teams. The number 1 seed is everything. From 6-6 we bust our team up trying to make up ground. It was incredible sequence of vicyories, but to play, effectively, 7 'win or go home' playoff games back to back with no let up , led to injuries and did us in. We couldn't get a moments rest and, personnel wise, that told. We didn't lose one game this year by more than 7 points. But that would have changed next week, I think. A healthy, relaxed Baltimore would have gone through us like the Chinese through Tibet. Next year it's got to be No 1 seed or go home. 3 Quote
Seventeen Posted January 22 Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: He is winning with very few offensive weapons and two poor tackles. Come on now it's ok to give him his props. I don't care for the guy but I do have to admit his greatness. Josh is also great but it will be overshadowed by his playoff losses and lack of SB rings. Without the ring he will always be looked at with an asterisk. Right now, he's seen as Mahomes little B. 0-3 in head to head match ups. More like McD is owned by Reid. 3 Quote
UKBillFan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 12 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: He is winning with very few offensive weapons and two poor tackles. Come on now it's ok to give him his props. I don't care for the guy but I do have to admit his greatness. Josh is also great but it will be overshadowed by his playoff losses and lack of SB rings. Without the ring he will always be looked at with an asterisk. Right now, he's seen as Mahomes little B. 0-3 in head to head match ups. I appreciate you’re specifically referring to the post season, but taking all games into account it’s 3-4. Basically a 50/50 split between the two. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 22 Posted January 22 17 minutes ago, Seventeen said: He's only a winner because of who surrounds him. Same reason as Josh not winning the biggest games. Prior to the game, everyone was saying the Bills’ roster was better. Especially the receiving weapons. KC’s D certainly wasn’t great last night, and receivers dropped passes and fumbled away a TD. Quote
Cray51 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 injuries to Benford and Bernard hurt us. Forced Klein into a coverage role, and took away our coverage abilities on passing downs 1 Quote
Seventeen Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: Prior to the game, everyone was saying the Bills’ roster was better. Especially the receiving weapons. KC’s D certainly wasn’t great last night, and receivers dropped passes and fumbled away a TD. If you count everyone on IR, those who didn't play due to injury and those who played at less than 100%, the Bills roster might be better. Edited January 22 by Seventeen 1 Quote
HomeTeam Posted January 22 Posted January 22 So I missed the last two playoffs games. Just catching up on things. Sorry about the loss guys. I'm sure this team is absolutely dejected. Not sure where this team goes but I believe this team needs a pivot. We have some old and bloated contracts. It's unfortunate, I really wanted to win with these guys, and I thought this year was our best chance to do that. Quote
boco357 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) Ugh I had a bad feeling, last game of the weekend and all home teams won already. Usually the odds are one road team wins in divisional round. Same thing happened in 2022 when the Bills were last game again and all road teams won. Edited January 22 by boco357 Quote
TheWei44 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 33 minutes ago, stevewin said: This - the amt of key defensive injuries were ridiculous and not something that any amt of roster depth could cover - and it will be lost to history forever. Instead we'll just have bills vs chiefs playoff record, and the stupid Mahomes vs Josh head-head playoff record narrative which is intended to imply Mahomes is better but has nothing to do with how well Josh played Totally agree with all of this. I'd add bad special teams play as another reason we lost but that was less of a factor than the injuries on D. I expected a close game and was bracing myself for this sort of outcome. Very bummed but I guess it's true that only one team and its fans will be happy in the end. Go Bills and there's always next year! 4 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Posted January 22 36 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: Another poor decision made in this game was playing Rasul Douglas. Go watch all the replays and you'll see him numerous times being exposed as he was slow and unable to move like he could when healthy Elam should've played over him, and only play Rasul if needed I saw the only long pass down field him looking slow, I agree that Elam should have started and maybe just play Douglas in situations 1 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted January 22 Posted January 22 The only positive takeaway from the season is that our draft was very good and we got some really important contributors out of it. If Shorter can have a Shakir like rise, watch out. Beane is still a top tier GM and it shows. I do feel like this is the ceiling for McDermott. Nothing's going to happen because of the run the Bills went on to win the AFC East. So I've just got to make peace with the fact that our HC is holding the team back. Eric Washington is somebody who should be on a hot seat but can't seem to do anything but fail up. The D-Line was healthy and disappears again, despite an insane level of investment. 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted January 22 Posted January 22 37 minutes ago, Bill Grundy said: The Morning after - and I'm not so mad anymore. ***** happens and I've enjoyed this - very frustrating - season. My conclusion is we lost it in the first half, under Dorsey, trying too much to pacify Diggs and losing to terrible teams. The number 1 seed is everything. From 6-6 we bust our team up trying to make up ground. It was incredible sequence of vicyories, but to play, effectively, 7 'win or go home' playoff games back to back with no let up , led to injuries and did us in. We couldn't get a moments rest and, personnel wise, that told. We didn't lose one game this year by more than 7 points. But that would have changed next week, I think. A healthy, relaxed Baltimore would have gone through us like the Chinese through Tibet. Next year it's got to be No 1 seed or go home. Next year is a rebuild year. The only way we get the #1 seed is if McDermott can get decent defensive results with less talent, and we hit on a rookie WR. The goal should be making the playoffs, possibly winning the division and see what happens after that. 1 Quote
ALG1130 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Steptide said: Well, sleeping sucked last night, but here's a few of my thoughts - We had a chance to win and Josh made some dumb passes at the end and Ofcourse bass sucked. Having said that, this team over achieved the last half of the season. Half our defense was hurt. We have no wide receivers and our number one can't even catch the ball. This was not the team to win it all. However, getting healthy and adding a few pieces and this team can definitely win it all next year. Even if we pulled this game out, I don't think we would've beat Baltimore Exactly where I am at. Also, hindsight is 20/20. What if Josh throws to Diggs and he drops again? The narrative would be "Shakir was wide open in the end zone!!!". Yeah, of course in hindsight you can dream about the coulda woulda shoulda's, but if a TD is there for the taking, you take it!! I can't fault him for throwing to a wide open Shakir. Josh did get hit on that throw unfortunately, well, Jones blocked Dawkins into him, which impacted the play, but had that not happened we get the TD. It's so ridiculous for Josh's haters(they know who they are, and I honestly think they love having any excuse to try and diminish him as QB) come out of the woodwork. I am going to keep it pretty simple here, this team would be a 6-8 wins team every year if we did not have Josh. He elevates them to greater lengths than they would be at if we didn't have him. He was the reason we were in that game at all, and that it was as close as it was, and that we had chances to win it. If you want to nitpick on his last two throws in an otherwise perfect game, have at it, but hindsight is 20/20 and we have no idea what would happen if he threw to Diggs or did some things differently. 1 1 1 Quote
May Day 10 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 The Bills had someone who was packing up their family camper for a trip to Key West 2 weeks ago installed as the staring MLB assigned to cover travis Kelce. 2 2 Quote
newcam2012 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 34 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I appreciate you’re specifically referring to the post season, but taking all games into account it’s 3-4. Basically a 50/50 split between the two. The regular season truthfully doesn't have nearly the same weight as a playoff game. It's apples and oranges. 1 Quote
damj Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I said before the game that we needed to score 30 to win. The offense didn't do enough Quote
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