BananaB Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DrBob806 said: KC scored 27 points on 43 offensive plays. Yep, the fear was real lol. Of course, we will never know. Maybe Mahomes fumbles or throws an INT at the end. The torture continues. I won't watch the AFC title game next week. The fake MVP (Lamar) vs the real MVP. Yikes. I get it. It just says a lot about this team and how much weight they put on Allens shoulders. It’s the right play but we suck on D so it’s the wrong play. Lol Thats where this franchise is at right now. 😂😂 Edited January 22 by BananaB 1 Quote
stlbills13 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 It sucks that Allen has to play a perfect game just to win a divisional game at home and even that may not be enough. 2 Quote
Mango Posted January 22 Posted January 22 51 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: They also gave him underneath option that he had plenty of time to hit. That was the 14th play of the drive. That’s an eternity by NFL standards. Taking the score there is fine. Otherwise we’re saying “you know what the Bills really needed? A 20 play drive” that’s just not reasonable. 3 1 Quote
pigpen65 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Has a coach ever been more unfairly scapegoated then Leslie Frazier? Quote
Ya Digg? Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: bull####! Totally irrational thinking and a total cheap shot. I'll speak for myself. Take a seat and listen. Maybe you can learn something. I'm as pessimistic as they come. It is what it is. Perhaps the total collapses of centuries of Bills football has scared my thinking beyond repair. Having a pessimistic or optimistic view of the Bills team is neither incorrect or correct. It's a perspective that's subjective. I am not playing some sort of hedge game as you imply. Totally ridiculous and unfounded statement that lacks credibility to the max. I get no enjoyment when the Bills lose whether I predicted it or not. As a fan, I always want the Bills to win!!! I'm not here to play the I told you so card. I give my pessimistic views and try to give some facts and reasonable opinions to back up my thoughts process. I've said often I'm more wrong then right. It's about the Bills not not about me being right. I could really give a crap if I'm right. In fact, I mostly hope I'm wrong because it's often a negative train of thought regarding the Bills. Lastly, I'd like to emphasize that being a pessimist doesn't mean I'm any less of a Bills fan. Many here and I suspect you feel otherwise. Sone don't see the glass half full. Your post was totally unprofessional and frankly embarrassing. What's embarrassing is your attachment to anything negative that happens. You want me to take back the less of a fan comment, that's fine, I do, but everything else I said I stand behind firmly. You certainly don't view the glass as half full - I've read a lot of your posts and most of the time you don't even have water in the glass! You can certainly be angry after last night's game - everyone is. There is criticism to go around, that's for sure (although some of the things being criticized are ridiculous). But to come on here often times after wins and post the things that you and some others do is borderline insane. You want perfection but it's not gonna happen. I have no interest in getting into a back and forth with you about this. You seem to like to live your Bills fanhood through negativity and pessimism. I don't understand that train of thought or how that is enjoyable. Enjoy the offseason 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 22 Posted January 22 35 minutes ago, BananaB said: The pass was there, protection never held. If he goes underneath there is still no guarantee if gets off an accurate pass. No guarantee it doesn’t lead to a missed Bass FG either. It’s laughable that the fans are scared to score a TD to early because they are more worried about the D not making a stop. Says all you need to know about this team and this staff. Also says a lot about what the expectations are for Allen here. Asking him to pass up an open WR in the endzone when you need a TD so you can save a few clicks of the clock. Who knows if you’ll get another look like that in upcoming plays. ***** hilarious the defense was finally adjusted putting Neal against Kelce at the line. the script was there on Kelce. When he was struggling in the earlier parts of the year Reed was having Kelce chip block and not come off the line clean. that threw his game off terribly. having Neal do that in the 4th had the same effect. Quote
muppy Posted January 22 Posted January 22 greetings TBD. Well Im taking all the reactions in from the game last night. Pass the tylenol bottle holy cow it's like a hangover except no alcohol was involved. what is needed is an outdoors activity. Fresh air, sunshine and a physical mental and spiritual break away from football. Yeah that's today I'll be back tomorrow. Im leaving the chat in very capable verbose hands everybody processes things differently. Im sad, Im hurting but I am certainly not broken. thats all Ive got. 2 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Lol. Obviously, your dislike for him outweighs sensibility. Your post is ridiculous. As usual anyone could come up with a better response and analysis than you could provide. You probably think Purdy is an amazing qb. I didn’t say Mahomes isn’t a great qb, just he didn’t do anything special last night. He didn’t need to. The running game and pass protection gave him everything he needed to have a comfortable night. Tell us 5 special plays he pulled off that were game changing requiring hall of fame skills? You can’t and you won’t. Oh and tell me how many drops did he have? Two less drops for Allen an Mahomes goes home a loser. Edited January 22 by Meatloaf63 Quote
newcam2012 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: What's embarrassing is your attachment to anything negative that happens. You want me to take back the less of a fan comment, that's fine, I do, but everything else I said I stand behind firmly. You certainly don't view the glass as half full - I've read a lot of your posts and most of the time you don't even have water in the glass! You can certainly be angry after last night's game - everyone is. There is criticism to go around, that's for sure (although some of the things being criticized are ridiculous). But to come on here often times after wins and post the things that you and some others do is borderline insane. You want perfection but it's not gonna happen. I have no interest in getting into a back and forth with you about this. You seem to like to live your Bills fanhood through negativity and pessimism. I don't understand that train of thought or how that is enjoyable. Enjoy the offseason Let me correct the record of your inaccuracies once again. You stand behind accusing people of getting enjoyment out of Bills losses because it makes them right? You can't be serious here? Your thinking may be further detached than I thought. I don't want perfection. Stop while you still have limited credibility. It's tumbling downhill quick. I suppose you will stand by that unfounded personal attacks. I'm not asking you to understand my mindset not if having this mindset is enjoyable or not. Another poke the best statement. Well we can agree on one thing we have no interest in going back and forth. The purpose of this was to set the record straight. I'm not going to stay silent when inaccuracies are thrown my way. Peace out Quote
WNYFAN1 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Core problem with this team is too much cap space being eaten up by players that aren't producing. Examples: Diggs Knox Miller Now that the QB contract has really kicked in, you can't get away without cap efficiency. Bills are the opposite of cap-efficient. 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted January 22 Posted January 22 43 minutes ago, BananaB said: The pass was there, protection never held. If he goes underneath there is still no guarantee if gets off an accurate pass. No guarantee it doesn’t lead to a missed Bass FG either. It’s laughable that the fans are scared to score a TD to early because they are more worried about the D not making a stop. Says all you need to know about this team and this staff. Also says a lot about what the expectations are for Allen here. Asking him to pass up an open WR in the endzone when you need a TD so you can save a few clicks of the clock. Who knows if you’ll get another look like that in upcoming plays. ***** hilarious Totally agree. Plus Diggs was running to the side of the field Jones was rushing from - not as easy a throw as it looked. Plus Diggs wasn’t playing as though he was engaged - who knows what happens with a pass in his direction. Plus there is an alternative reality where Shakir scores and then Bass misses the XP and the Chiefs go down and tie it… Quote
newcam2012 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: As usual anyone could come up with a better response and analysis than you could provide. You probably think Purdy is an amazing qb. I didn’t say Mahomes isn’t a great qb, just he didn’t do anything special last night. He didn’t need to. The running game and pass protection gave him everything he needed to have a comfortable night. Tell us 5 special plays he pulled off that were game changing requiring hall of fame skills? You can’t and you won’t. The point just goes way over your head brother. Mahomes marched into Highmark Stadium and led his team to a huge win. He orchestrated the win. He was the conductor of the train. How many times did the Chiefs punt? How do you think their offense looked? Were the Bills able to stop their offense? He did what he had to do to win. There doesn't have to be flash plays, big plays, or magical plays. He played within himself, had no turnovers, spread the ball around, used his legs, and led his team to a huge playoff victory on road. If you don't think that's special I'm not sure what else to tell you. The guy is a winner. 1 Quote
Dan Darragh Posted January 22 Posted January 22 3 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Mahomes deserves the accolades. He went into Buffalo and beat the Bills. To imply or diminish this accomplishment is kind of crazy. Mahomes led his team to victory if that includes a Pacheco so be it. Mahomes showed the football world why he's the best QB on the planet. What Josh did is an afterthought because his team lost. He will be answering upcoming questions about why he and his team can't sustain consecutive playoff wins. The ghost is appearing on his back. The elephant is in the room. Home run. The silence tells you all you need to know. The same people will be ramming the McD walks on water narrative come next season. Denial runs deep. If you could undo all the trades, and we had Mahomes and Jefferson instead of Josh, Tre and Diggs, would you? Quote
skibum Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Valiant effort, but the Chiefs were the better team last night. The Bills were running he ball just to keep Mahomes off the field, because they knew the Chiefs could score on every possession. If that's your only chance to win, you are definitely NOT the better team. The Bills even caught the one lucky break of the game with the touchback play, but they couldn't make it count. Stinks, but not as much as the games where they could have/should have won. 3 Quote
newcam2012 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Dan Darragh said: If you could undo all the trades, and we had Mahomes and Jefferson instead of Josh, Tre and Diggs, would you? That's a no brainier. I'd do it yesterday. All day everyday. Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and it's not even close. He's a winner and I wouldn't doubt if he challenges Brady's ring count. Jefferson is an absolute monster. Team them both up and I can coach them to the playoffs. Heck, McD might be able to win a divisional round playoff game. 2 Quote
Seventeen Posted January 22 Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: The point just goes way over your head brother. Mahomes marched into Highmark Stadium and led his team to a huge win. He orchestrated the win. He was the conductor of the train. How many times did the Chiefs punt? How do you think their offense looked? Were the Bills able to stop their offense? He did what he had to do to win. There doesn't have to be flash plays, big plays, or magical plays. He played within himself, had no turnovers, spread the ball around, used his legs, and led his team to a huge playoff victory on road. If you don't think that's special I'm not sure what else to tell you. The guy is a winner. He's only a winner because of who surrounds him. Same reason as Josh not winning the biggest games. Quote
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Another poor decision made in this game was playing Rasul Douglas. Go watch all the replays and you'll see him numerous times being exposed as he was slow and unable to move like he could when healthy Elam should've played over him, and only play Rasul if needed 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 22 Posted January 22 37 minutes ago, Mango said: That was the 14th play of the drive. That’s an eternity by NFL standards. Taking the score there is fine. Otherwise we’re saying “you know what the Bills really needed? A 20 play drive” that’s just not reasonable. They marched up and down the field on the chefs most of the game. Another 2-3 plays is unreasonable? 1 Quote
stevewin Posted January 22 Posted January 22 9 hours ago, Budkin said: We lost because of defensive injuries and got carved up because of them. The end. This - the amt of key defensive injuries were ridiculous and not something that any amt of roster depth could cover - and it will be lost to history forever. Instead we'll just have bills vs chiefs playoff record, and the stupid Mahomes vs Josh head-head playoff record narrative which is intended to imply Mahomes is better but has nothing to do with how well Josh played 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Just now, Seventeen said: He's only a winner because of who surrounds him. Same reason as Josh not winning the biggest games. He is winning with very few offensive weapons and two poor tackles. Come on now it's ok to give him his props. I don't care for the guy but I do have to admit his greatness. Josh is also great but it will be overshadowed by his playoff losses and lack of SB rings. Without the ring he will always be looked at with an asterisk. Right now, he's seen as Mahomes little B. 0-3 in head to head match ups. Quote
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