Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread

[BillsfaninCT]

curious:

entire game play more or less run the clock out football including up to the 2 min warning.  2 min warning change the game plan, miss a wide open diggs in the flat to run more clock out, get a first down?

 

in a game where the defense is unlikely to stop the chiefs the coaches and the qb all forget and start throwing?

 

I don't believe anyone on this board with an honest football acumen can sit here and say those were the best 3 plays of football in the year when they needed the best 3 plays.  that was some of the worst play calling and the worst execution other than adam sandlering it and chucking a pick.

 

it makes zero sense in the context of the game, 13 seconds, the game plan, all of it.

 

there is no good explanation for possessing the ball with a pretty easy 1st down near the 10 to chuck into the endzone back to back with 150 remaining given the context of the game, high school coaches and qb's know better, be honest.  that was buffalo literally giving a winnable game to the chiefs to send swifties to the next round and pound the ratings.

Edited January 22 by BillsfaninCT

[Not at the table Karlos]

6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I think the Diggs or Shakir option is a toss up which one is the one to take. As others have said, who knows if Diggs would have dropped it anyway? Or fumbled? Or there would be a tipped interception on the next play? Where the opportunity is there to try for a TD, should it be taken?

Who knows if Shakir drops it or tips it for pick if the throw got there. You can say what ifs for any and everything. The Bills were trying to bleed the clock. Scoring there would give the chefs the ball with plenty of time and timeouts when we can’t stop them. Throwing to Diggs was the correct play if you’re sticking to the plan they had all game. 

3 minutes ago, BillsfaninCT said:

curious:

entire game play more or less run the clock out football including up to the 2 min warning.  2 min warning change the game plan, miss a wide open diggs in the flat to run more clock out, get a first down?

 

in a game where the defense is unlikely to stop the chiefs the coaches and the qb all forget and start throwing?

 

I don't believe anyone on this board with an honest football acumen can sit here and say those were the best 3 plays of football in the year when they needed the best 3 plays.  that was some of the worst play calling and the worst execution other than adam sandlering it and chucking a pick.

 

it makes zero sense in the context of the game, 13 seconds, the game plan, all of it.

The play calls were fine. They were designed to continue to run clock. The execution was the problem. Josh went away from the plan and went for end zone instead of moving the chains and running more clock. Reminds me of when he rolled his eyes when Tom Brady was talking about taking what defense gives you. 

Edited January 22 by Not at the table Karlos

[UKBillFan]

Just now, Not at the table Karlos said:

Who knows if Shakir drops it or tips it for pick if the throw got there. You can say what ifs for any and everything. The Bills were trying to bleed the clock. Scoring there would give the chefs the ball with plenty of time and timeouts when we can’t stop them. Throwing to Diggs was the correct play. 

Though do you take the TD when the opportunity presents itself, rather than check down because there might be a chance on the next set of downs?

 

I don’t know. I feel Josh carried the Bills all night and am split whether he let us down in the end. Can see the arguments from both sides.

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Who knows if Shakir drops it or tips it for pick if the throw got there. You can say what ifs for any and everything. The Bills were trying to bleed the clock. Scoring there would give the chefs the ball with plenty of time and timeouts when we can’t stop them. Throwing to Diggs was the correct play. 

Does anyone have video of that play??

[Bills!Win!]

This might have been our best chance to win the Super Bowl. Swift and her entourage stole that from us. I think I hate them more than I used to hate the patriots 

Edited January 22 by Bills!Win!

[BillsfaninCT]

right, the execution was terrible.  so all of sudden josh lost his mind and said yeah forget about running the clock out i want the TD thats what's being said I don't believe that, because literally the previous play and the ones before the 2min warning were run the clock out.  he looked right at diggs and then looked right at the other 2 on 3rd down, i've watched the replay for hours, it's adam sandler.

2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Does anyone have video of that play??

I have the game saved on my fubo recording and watched it for 2hours.  adam sandler, there's no way, there's no way anyone with a high school football acumen does that sequence.  then miss a 40yd wide right?  make me a better story.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

15 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Not Dan Mitchell. 

He posted on it, it was talked about in the game week thread. Here it is.👇👇👇

 

https://twitter.com/realdanmitchell/status/1748398043248922631/mediaviewer?currentTweet=1748398043248922631&currentTweetUser=realdanmitchell

 

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Though do you take the TD when the opportunity presents itself, rather than check down because there might be a chance on the next set of downs?

 

I don’t know. I feel Josh carried the Bills all night and am split whether he let us down in the end. Can see the arguments from both sides.

Can be both. He did carry us but he also did make some poor decisions. I don’t put the loss on him though. This was a team loss. 

6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Does anyone have video of that play??

I do not. 

[JerseyBills]

4 minutes ago, BillsfaninCT said:

right, the execution was terrible.  so all of sudden josh lost his mind and said yeah forget about running the clock out i want the TD thats what's being said I don't believe that, because literally the previous play and the ones before the 2min warning were run the clock out.  he looked right at diggs and then looked right at the other 2 on 3rd down, i've watched the replay for hours, it's adam sandler.

I have the game saved on my fubo recording and watched it for 2hours.  adam sandler, there's no way, there's no way anyone with a high school football acumen does that sequence.  then miss a 40yd wide right?  make me a better story.

Can you somehow post that play? I agree with you, I just would love to watch it back so my heart breaks even more

[BillsfaninCT]

the goal there is to get a 1st down, like who on the football planet of earth doesn't know the goal is to get a 1st down????  you likely do not win the game if you score a TD with more than 10 seconds on the clock, cause the defense has to be accepted as inadequate so you run the clock out that's all there is to it and they literally did all of the wrong possible things lol.  make me believe it.

 

i don't think we're allowed to post the tv coverage but somebody will post those 2 pass plays and it's inexplicable in the context of what's needed to win the game.

Edited January 22 by BillsfaninCT

[Starr-Bills]

21 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

If you want to win a Super Bowl you have to make plays

 

Diggs didn't 

Sherfield didn't 

The entire defensive line didn't 

Bass didn't 

 

This team had injuries. Those injuries mattered. But at the end of the day if one or two guys make a play we are headed to Baltimore 

Agreed, but let’s add Josh to this he needed to take the short across the middle to Diggs on second and Kinkade on third to make a short 4th or the kick 6-8-9 yards shorter. Might still miss. Also while we are at it why did Josh not run they had time outs. Move him outside the pocket, make KC defend the whole field. 
 

anyway seen so many of these games I’m numb and sad but nothing really to be done about that game. I think next year could be ugly with the cap age and lack of talent all over the roster.

3 minutes ago, BillsfaninCT said:

the goal there is to get a 1st down, like who on the football planet of earth doesn't know the goal is to get a 1st down????  you likely do not win the game if you score a TD with more than 10 seconds on the clock, cause the defense has to be accepted as inadequate so you run the clock out that's all there is to it and they literally did all of the wrong possible things lol.  make me believe it.

Exactly, well put.

[Bob Jones]

The Bills are exactly who I thought they were…a pretty good team with a great QB, a mediocre coach, a couple young rising stars on offense, and a lot of aging/middling talent that needs to be replaced. For anybody who’s watched all their games this year, the latter seemed fairly obvious.

 

Myself and a few others have been saying this for months now, and taking a lot of puke emojis, Red Xs, Eyerolls, and Thumb downs in here, but that’s OK.

 

The injuries definitely didn’t help, but in the end, I believe Reid would have outcoached McD in any case, and the results would have been the same. JA can only do so much, as this is a true team sport.

[Dan]

23 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

If you want to win a Super Bowl you have to make plays

 

Diggs didn't 

Sherfield didn't 

The entire defensive line didn't 

Bass didn't 

 

This team had injuries. Those injuries mattered. But at the end of the day if one or two guys make a play we are headed to Baltimore 

IMO, this sums it all up.  The Bills do not have any playmakers.  When needed most, everyone not named Allen or Shakir came up small.  
 

We just don’t have any WR that can catch a contested ball.  We don’t have a defensive line that can generate any pressure.  Cook for all his ability, just came up small.  
 

Another year ends the same as the last 4.  Why?   The Bills coaches can’t make adjustments and get out schemed.  And we don’t have players that can overcome that and just make a play when it’s needed most. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 minutes ago, BillsfaninCT said:

the goal there is to get a 1st down, like who on the football planet of earth doesn't know the goal is to get a 1st down????  you likely do not win the game if you score a TD with more than 10 seconds on the clock, cause the defense has to be accepted as inadequate so you run the clock out that's all there is to it and they literally did all of the wrong possible things lol.  make me believe it.

Make you believe what? That Josh makes poor decisions at times? You shouldn’t need someone to make you believe that. Your eyes should see it every season. He’s inconsistent with decision making and has been most of his career. He will have amazing stretches of play along with boneheaded decisions. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Meatloaf63 said:

Anyone including ownership that thinks things will be different next year is delusional.  This is what you get with McDermott , nothing more sometimes less.

Mahomes showed he can hit wide open wide recievers and not much more. Not that impressive of a showing vs a decimated defense. 

Lol. Obviously, your dislike for him outweighs sensibility. Your post is ridiculous. 

[BananaB]

18 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Who knows if Shakir drops it or tips it for pick if the throw got there. You can say what ifs for any and everything. The Bills were trying to bleed the clock. Scoring there would give the chefs the ball with plenty of time and timeouts when we can’t stop them. Throwing to Diggs was the correct play if you’re sticking to the plan they had all game. 

The play calls were fine. They were designed to continue to run clock. The execution was the problem. Josh went away from the plan and went for end zone instead of moving the chains and running more clock. Reminds me of when he rolled his eyes when Tom Brady was talking about taking what defense gives you. 

The defense gave him a TD and protection never held up and forced a bad pass. 

[stlbills13]

Once we got to the 2 minute warning (and the play before), the only play I may have called was a Josh run. Worst case scenario is it drains clock and/or forces the chiefs to use a timeout and gives Bass a shorter field goal. Best case wss he continued having success and drained the clock leading to a game winning TD.

 

Or I throw a simple short route to Kincaid 

 

Joe Brady called a great game but I didn't love the last 3 plays

Edited January 22 by stlbills13

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 minute ago, BananaB said:

The defense gave him a TD and protection never held up and forced a bad pass. 

They also gave him underneath option that he had plenty of time to hit. 

[Steptide]

Well, sleeping sucked last night, but here's a few of my thoughts - 

We had a chance to win and Josh made some dumb passes at the end and Ofcourse bass sucked. Having said that, this team over achieved the last half of the season. Half our defense was hurt. We have no wide receivers and our number one can't even catch the ball. This was not the team to win it all. However, getting healthy and adding a few pieces and this team can definitely win it all next year. Even if we pulled this game out, I don't think we would've beat Baltimore 

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 minute ago, stlbills13 said:

Once we got to the 2 minute warning (and the play before), the only play I may have called was a Josh run. Worst case scenario is it drains clock and/or forces the chiefs to use a timeout and gives Bass a shorter field goal. Best case wss he continued having success and drained the clock leading to a game winning TD.

 

Or I throw a simple short route to Kincaid 

 

Joe Brady called a great game but I didn't love the last 3 plays

Joe Brady called a play that had multiple open receivers. Josh chose the wrong throw.