Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread

[Motorin']

11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Why are we obsessed with TOP and yet the Chiefs don’t give a ***** when they score? 
 

The McDermott effect. 

 

Cause it was all setup to score the game winning TD whole giving Mahomes no time left to score. 

[Punch]

This is such a nightmare:

 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

Worst game I've seen from our defense this year.

 

Almost immediately, my hopes that the backups could fill in okay were dashed.  It definitely hurt that we were so banged up.

 

 

Well, I certainly commend your optimism right or wrong. Maybe others can see my points of view a little more clearly too. 

 

There's always next year! 

[paulmm3]

Stefon Diggs looking old and washed up tonight

[DapperCam]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

Worst game I've seen from our defense this year.

 

Almost immediately, my hopes that the backups could fill in okay were dashed.  It definitely hurt that we were so banged up.

 

 

Worst game I saw from our defense was the first Pats game and it isn’t even close. What is more embarrassing than getting carved up by Mac Jones and a bottom-3 offense in the league?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

26 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

They drafted Offense mostly this year.  This team would likely have been giving up 25-28 points a game under a different DC with the personnel they had the 2nd half of the season.  I think McD did a pretty remarkable job on D with what he had to work with the 2nd half of the year.

That’s my only fear really….i think another second round bounce or two in the playoffs and we’ll be firing mcd which seems deserved but the defense is gonna regress even further so we’ll end up in the same boat or worse 

8 minutes ago, Punch said:

This is such a nightmare:

 

It was a weird game though…usually top is an indicator that one team isn’t doing much on offense but the chiefs were just scoring very fast lol 

[dpberr]

This was "the" year.

 

Now it's on to a reload for the new stadium. I'd expect some big changes. The hump has been identified.

[weebdestroyer12]

Honestly I get we are all upset and want to put blame on someone but in all honestly this game went the way it should all the way until the last 2 minutes of regulation.

 

-Was there missed call by the Refs that favored the Chiefs? Yes, but not in a way that made a game changing moment, had they scored instead of going 3 and out then I would be calling for the Ref's head.

 

-Did our defense stink? Depends, we're missing our 1st and 2nd stringer playing with players that are practically practice squad members against a team fully healthy. So I say our defense did the best it could with what they had, and that says much cause Frazier with all the pieces would have been ran through.

 

-Offense, did great until again 2 minutes left. Sorry but that's on Allen for passing it to Shakir for a TD with 1:50 left instead of Diggs under, get a 1st down and run out the clock and get a TD with little time as possible. Allen did great and everything he could just bad read that one play sadly cost the game. No reason to have to go three and out there, we had the weapon and scheme, we jut fizzled up.

 

-Bass, listen we can oust, get his head on a stick. That kick was just not going to happen and he shouldn't have been put in that situation at that moment. Also odd Reid called a TO to ice Bass, but the refs ignored it once it was a miss... pretty odd.

 

-Coaching, wasn't as bad as the other playoff lost, this was strong till the end for once, it looked like the team finally had it figured out, but once again bad 2-3 decisions cost us at the worst time to make mistakes.

 

-Diggs, we should probably stop being against him with his attitude and adopt that attitude, he is a competitor with a killer mindset, we gave up on him this season, totally unforgivable, sorry but these routes are atrocious and difficult to follow, the routes are as bad as Rex ryan's Defense playbook, there's no fluidity and nothing that is medium 10,15-20 yards plays. the lack of pass plays in this playbook is terrible.

 

-NFL, cmon you guys knew they want T swift and the NFL sweetheart team to win. I hate seeing how the other AFC fanbases in the NFL laughing at us, they should be cheering us on trying to take down the NFL's favorite team and their obsession with Taylor Swift. The Bills aren't trying to be Dynasty the Bills are trying to be the underdog team that is trying to give the NFL the biggest middle finger possible for treating certain team with more specialty than others. The Bills, Browns, Lions, Titans have been the NFL's whipping boys taking the garbage to the face while the Patriots, Chiefs, Broncos, and Ravens are given 5-star cuisines. It's about time there's a major change in the NFL. The NFC have different representatives every year but yet some how it's been patriots, ravens, broncos, patriots, broncos, patriots, patriots, patriots, patriots, Chiefs, Chiefs, bengals, and chiefs. Like this repetition on a apparently "super stacked" AFC is outright outrages and unbelievable to the point that I don't even bother with the super bowl anymore, all I care is that we make the playoff at this point because if you're not the Chiefs you're not going to the big one, it's been made so clear.

[Big Turk]

32 minutes ago, Punch said:

This is such a nightmare:

 

 

They also became the 1st team since at least 1991 to rush for 124+ yards in the first half of a playoff game lose.  Teams were 20-0 when they had done that.

26 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That’s my only fear really….i think another second round bounce or two in the playoffs and we’ll be firing mcd which seems deserved but the defense is gonna regress even further so we’ll end up in the same boat or worse 

It was a weird game though…usually top is an indicator that one team isn’t doing much on offense but the chiefs were just scoring very fast lol 

 

When you are averaging 9 yards per play midway thru the 4th quarter it doesn't take many plays to score.

Edited January 22 by Big Turk

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, weebdestroyer12 said:

Honestly I get we are all upset and want to put blame on someone but in all honestly this game went the way it should all the way until the last 2 minutes of regulation.

 

-Was there missed call by the Refs that favored the Chiefs? Yes, but not in a way that made a game changing moment, had they scored instead of going 3 and out then I would be calling for the Ref's head.

 

-Did our defense stink? Depends, we're missing our 1st and 2nd stringer playing with players that are practically practice squad members against a team fully healthy. So I say our defense did the best it could with what they had, and that says much cause Frazier with all the pieces would have been ran through.

 

-Offense, did great until again 2 minutes left. Sorry but that's on Allen for passing it to Shakir for a TD with 1:50 left instead of Diggs under, get a 1st down and run out the clock and get a TD with little time as possible. Allen did great and everything he could just bad read that one play sadly cost the game. No reason to have to go three and out there, we had the weapon and scheme, we jut fizzled up.

 

-Bass, listen we can oust, get his head on a stick. That kick was just not going to happen and he shouldn't have been put in that situation at that moment. Also odd Reid called a TO to ice Bass, but the refs ignored it once it was a miss... pretty odd.

 

-Coaching, wasn't as bad as the other playoff lost, this was strong till the end for once, it looked like the team finally had it figured out, but once again bad 2-3 decisions cost us at the worst time to make mistakes.

 

-Diggs, we should probably stop being against him with his attitude and adopt that attitude, he is a competitor with a killer mindset, we gave up on him this season, totally unforgivable, sorry but these routes are atrocious and difficult to follow, the routes are as bad as Rex ryan's Defense playbook, there's no fluidity and nothing that is medium 10,15-20 yards plays. the lack of pass plays in this playbook is terrible.

 

-NFL, cmon you guys knew they want T swift and the NFL sweetheart team to win. I hate seeing how the other AFC fanbases in the NFL laughing at us, they should be cheering us on trying to take down the NFL's favorite team and their obsession with Taylor Swift. The Bills aren't trying to be Dynasty the Bills are trying to be the underdog team that is trying to give the NFL the biggest middle finger possible for treating certain team with more specialty than others. The Bills, Browns, Lions, Titans have been the NFL's whipping boys taking the garbage to the face while the Patriots, Chiefs, Broncos, and Ravens are given 5-star cuisines. It's about time there's a major change in the NFL. The NFC have different representatives every year but yet some how it's been patriots, ravens, broncos, patriots, broncos, patriots, patriots, patriots, patriots, Chiefs, Chiefs, bengals, and chiefs. Like this repetition on a apparently "super stacked" AFC is outright outrages and unbelievable to the point that I don't even bother with the super bowl anymore, all I care is that we make the playoff at this point because if you're not the Chiefs you're not going to the big one, it's been made so clear.

 

The assumptions made on this board are comical.  So the Bills should pass up a sure TD when it's there and just assume nothing bad would happen if they threw it to Diggs and he got a first down. You know like a fumble, INT, sack/strip, tipped ball INT, etc?  In the NFL you don't have the luxury of taking things for granted like all you Madden lovers can in the video game world. It's just an automatic TD some other play down the line?  Like the Bills are playing against air?

 

I cannot give Diggs anymore passes because when the Bills need him the most he performs the worst.  In the last 3 games the Bills have been eliminated in the playoffs, Diggs has 10 catches on 24 targets for 63 yards and 0 TDs.  Sorry, but he is here to be a difference maker.  When your #1 WR is averaging 3.3 catches and 21 yards a game, that just flat out isn't good enough.  And it's not like he didn't have chances to make plays this game, he simply didn't.

Edited January 22 by Big Turk

[78thealltimegreat]

46 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

I didn’t care for this quote from McDermott he has confidence in Josh?  Josh is the reason he isn’t unemployed right now. 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

They drafted Offense mostly this year.  This team would likely have been giving up 25-28 points a game under a different DC with the personnel they had the 2nd half of the season.  I think McD did a pretty remarkable job on D with what he had to work with the 2nd half of the year.

He did … until last night. 
 

And most us no longer care about what he does in the regular season, provided he makes the playoffs. 
 

Last night, he had a chance to win most us doubters over and he failed in spectacular fashion.  
 

I didnt expect a dominant performance given the injuries… but I sure as **** didn’t expect that.  

[chongli]

46 minutes ago, Punch said:

This is such a nightmare:

 

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

He did … until last night. 
 

And most us no longer care about what he does in the regular season, provided he makes the playoffs. 
 

Last night, he had a chance to win most us doubters over and he failed in spectacular fashion.  
 

I didnt expect a dominant performance given the injuries… but I sure as **** didn’t expect that.  

 

Douglas shouldn't have been playing.  He had his worst game as a Bills by far and clearly was a shell of himself.  Should have gotten benched in the 2nd half for Elam.  Bills were up against it versus any competant offense and for as not so great at the Chiefs were on offense this year, being down that much on D against someone as creative as Reid and Mahomes that could exploit it over and over again was not ideal.

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Douglas shouldn't have been playing.  He had his worst game as a Bills by far and clearly was a shell of himself.  Should have gotten benched in the 2nd half for Elam.  Bills were up against it versus any competant offense and for as not so great at the Chiefs were on offense this year, being down that much on D against someone as creative as Reid and Mahomes that could exploit it over and over again was not ideal.

No, it wasn’t ideal.  I agree - It was a tough spot. 
 

But I can’t keep giving a defensive head coach excuse after excuse as to why his defense fails us against good offenses in the playoffs every year. 
 

That performance was horrific.  Beyond anything I could have possibly predicted.. especially given our offense played ball control all game. 
 

At some point, it’s him .. not the mental exhaustion or injuries or team not being ready for the moment yet or miscommunication/confusion on a late drive with 13 second left. 
 

 

Edited January 22 by SCBills

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

No, it wasn’t.  It was a tough spot. 
 

But I can’t keep giving a defensive head coach excuse after excuse as to why his defense fails us against good offenses in the playoffs every year. 
 

At some point, it’s him .. not the mental exhaustion or injuries or team not being ready for the moment yet or miscommunication/confusion on a late drive with 13 second left. 

 

Can you name a single coach that is going to take 4th/5th string players at LB and at DB along with 2 of the players playing well below 100% clearly and "scheme" something up that would allow them to not get smoked?  Because I don't really know of one off the top of my head.  Especially when he has only a single game to try and get them playing together and a new "QB" of the defense making adjustments on the field?

 

Respectfully, not even Belichick is making that D look good.

Edited January 22 by Big Turk

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

No, it wasn’t ideal.  I agree - It was a tough spot. 
 

But I can’t keep giving a defensive head coach excuse after excuse as to why his defense fails us against good offenses in the playoffs every year. 
 

That performance was horrific.  Beyond anything I could have possibly predicted.. especially given our offense played ball control all game. 
 

At some point, it’s him .. not the mental exhaustion or injuries or team not being ready for the moment yet or miscommunication/confusion on a late drive with 13 second left. 
 

 

Exactly...he's the HC.  His specialty is defense.  Find a damn way of keeping half your players from getting injured all the time. Is the Bills conditioning staff awful or what. Figure out that dilemma and maybe we can field a full defense one of these years.  We put zero pressure on Pat tonight. 

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

I've been saying we're becoming the Rivers Chargers teams for a while now 

I've made a similar statement and got roasted. Most here aren't objective enough to be critical of the team, players, coaches, and organization. I doubt this is a wake up call. 

 

The Bills will run it back with McD. The posters here in August and September will be full of optimism. It will be another super bowl appearance for sure. 

 

Some things are very predictable. One of them is the Chiefs beating the Bills in the playoffs. 

[Gunsgoodtime]

Fire them all.  Even the snow scrapers 

[newcam2012]

19 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Douglas shouldn't have been playing.  He had his worst game as a Bills by far and clearly was a shell of himself.  Should have gotten benched in the 2nd half for Elam.  Bills were up against it versus any competant offense and for as not so great at the Chiefs were on offense this year, being down that much on D against someone as creative as Reid and Mahomes that could exploit it over and over again was not ideal.

Poor coaching decision then?