Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread

[Awwufelloff]

It really sucks we had the GOAT in our division for 20 yrs, and now a new GOAT in the AFC. It also sucks that the Bills traded him to a team inside our conference.

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

8 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said:

If the Chiefs make it to the Superbowl this year, I’m not watching it.

 

Lamar is taking the Ravens all the way.

 

Ravens D is nasty. They will eat Purdy or Goff alive in the SB. 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Might be true overall but he was near flawless reads wise in this game imo…I think people are taking what romo said before he even diagnosed the full play a little too seriously lol just because diggs was open for a pitch and catch doesn’t mean shakir wasn’t open for a pitch and catch td 

I think the Diggs or Shakir question is perhaps a matter of preference. I thought throwing to Diggs would have meant Josh could throw it a moment sooner, which would have meant an unaffected pass. He needed to be aware Dawkins was in full reverse to his left. I admit I could be wrong; perhaps he would have needed a similar amount of time for both. If so… not fussed about going for the TD.

[TheFunPolice]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

It absolutely was, Mahomes didn't look like it was hard most of the night.

 

How is that different from the 2 other playoff losses to KC?

 

 

[BeastMaster]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

In the Allen playoff years which is 10 playoff games, McD's Defense played well ONCE. In every other game it played bad the whole game or at key moments that either lost us the game (Houston) or nearly lost the game (Indy - remember the Bills had a 24 - 10 4th quarter lead and almost lost). 

 

Given that McD is a defensive coach and Bean has fashioned D heavy roster this is unacceptable.  The Bills are wasting the prime years of Allen's career.  If they don't see it you have to wonder if that organization is worth our hard earned money and time.

 

 

Couldn't agree more, and one of the best posts I've read here tonight

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

How is that different from the 2 other playoff losses to KC?

 

 

It was aggravating for sure, but at least in those ones Mahomes had to do some ridiculous ***** himself.

Edited January 22 by Warcodered

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

It absolutely was, Mahomes didn't look like it was hard most of the night.

I do think some of it was refs allowing both olines to hold their a** off…both defenses struggled a good deal more than they should’ve 

[Big Turk]

Wow...this is pretty crazy if true....poster claims it has been confirmed.

 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

Lamar is taking the Ravens all the way.

 

Ravens D is nasty. They will eat Purdy or Goff alive in the SB. 

Hard to see us beating Baltimore even if we snuck through this one 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

In the Allen playoff years which is 10 playoff games, McD's Defense played well ONCE. In every other game it played bad the whole game or at key moments that either lost us the game (Houston) or nearly lost the game (Indy - remember the Bills had a 24 - 10 4th quarter lead and almost lost). 

 

Given that McD is a defensive coach and Bean has fashioned D heavy roster this is unacceptable.  The Bills are wasting the prime years of Allen's career.  If they don't see it you have to wonder if that organization is worth our hard earned money and time.

 

 

 

Just not true.  

 

Beat Baltimore 17-3.  

Beat Pats 47-17.

Beat Steelers 31-17.  

 

I thought all those were pretty good performances defensively.  Steelers literally only made it close because the Bills fielded a preseason D for much of the 2nd half.

 

[CincyBillsFan]

19 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Yeah I though they got a little too aggressive coming out of the 2:00 warning.

It's better than turtling, but they could have managed it better while still staying proactive.

Again we have to figure mental and physical exhaustion into this.  The offense had run 14 plays on that drive before the 2 minute warning.  And those included a key 4th down conversion and a couple of 3rd down conversions.  From Brady to Allen (who take a wicked hit earlier in the drive) to the O linemen I get why they may have fizzled coming out of the break. 

 

This makes me even madder at the D.  They faced only 47 plays and 23 minutes of TOP yet they couldn't win many battles between the D line and the Chiefs O line. 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I think the Diggs or Shakir question is perhaps a matter of preference. I thought throwing to Diggs would have meant Josh could throw it a moment sooner, which would have meant an unaffected pass. He needed to be aware Dawkins was in full reverse to his left. I admit I could be wrong; perhaps he would have needed a similar amount of time for both. If so… not fussed about going for the TD.

He may have gotten the throw to diggs off…it’s hard to say.  I’m sure he saw Dawkins getting backed up but he just needed like a split second more fight out of him and we probably win.  Even if you hit that throw to diggs it’s still an uphill battle getting into the end zone

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

Wow...this is pretty crazy if true....poster claims it has been confirmed.

 

 

 

 

We definitely saw some regression in that best-I've-ever-seen lightning release he was displaying earlier in the year.

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

He may have gotten the throw to diggs off…it’s hard to say.  I’m sure he saw Dawkins getting backed up but he just needed like a split second more fight out of him and we probably win.  Even if you hit that throw to diggs it’s still an uphill battle getting into the end zone

 

Just shows how insanely close the margins are in these type of games.  A split second on that play turns it from an incompletion to a TD.  

[Comebackkid]

might as well throw my 2 cents in.

thought Brady did well in the first half but what started out as a good mix of throws and runs 

became a one dimensional run game.   then after the half when the chiefs were starting to shut it down i 

felt he got off his game plan.   we started taking low percentage shots and bad run calls up the gut with the

entire chiefs D there. 

the long pass to sherfield....either he had to run faster or the ball needs to be a bit shorter.  the chances of running full out and 

then pretty much have to be extended fulll out and not having the ground take it away is pretty slim.  

the deep ball to diggs, looks like he miss judged it but that was trying to track a 65 -70 yard throw at full speed with the Defender in your hip pocket.

 

the bills needed more plays between safe and 10% chance of completion.   

 

who ever thought having a washed up guy off the couch defending kelse wasnt very smart.   

 

The D was decimated and it showed.   backups can only do so much and it wasnt enough.  

 

If the Bills are ever going to win a championship...they are going to have to plan smarter...draft smarter and play smarter.  

 

Edited January 25 by Comebackkid

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Just not true.  

 

Beat Baltimore 17-3.  

Beat Pats 47-17.

Beat Steelers 31-17.  

 

I thought all those were pretty good performances defensively.  Steelers literally only made it close because the Bills fielded a preseason D for much of the 2nd half.

 

The only great game the Bills D played that won a game was Baltimore.  The offense rolled over NE taking all the pressure off the D.  When the Steelers were sneaking back into the game in the 2nd half it was the offense which shut the door with a long TD drive.

 

The Bills have a Defensive minded head coach and a GM that has built a defensive focused roster that in the last 10 playoff games can point to only one game where the D was outstanding and was a difference maker.

 

 

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

The thing about the defensive injuries is that you got pretty much the same game out of the guys that played today as the last 2 KC playoff losses. The defense wasn't noticeably worse.

 

 

 

They gave up 9 yards a play for most almost the entire game for God's sake, they were WAY worse! Think the Chiefs ended at 7.7 Yards per Play but that is still terrible.

 

The only reason it didn't seem that bad is because the Bills had the ball so much and ran like 30 more plays than the Chiefs did to get almost the exact same yardage total.  I think the Bill ended up with like 7 more yards than the Chiefs did for the game. 

[zow2]

I was harping on it this weekend and unfortunately right.  At least 1 road team wins in the Divisional round. When the home teams were 3-0 in front of us i felt very uneasy. Just couldn’t get that out of my head.

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The only great game the Bills D played that won a game was Baltimore.  The offense rolled over NE taking all the pressure off the D.  When the Steelers were sneaking back into the game in the 2nd half it was the offense which shut the door with a long TD drive.

 

The Bills have a Defensive minded head coach and a GM that has built a defensive focused roster that in the last 10 playoff games can point to only one game where the D was outstanding and was a difference maker.

 

 

 

In all fariness, there are not a lot of teams recently that can point to their D being the difference in playoff games with the way the NFL is designed these days.  It favors the offense pretty heavily. See the Chiefs - Eagles Super Bowl last year.

[Nitro]

Cold fact that the Bills are the only home team to lose this weekend.  Tear down and rebuilding is needed.