Thrivefourfive Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Pierce got the job. I think this is the latest bad call by Davis. Last time, he didn’t hire the interim guy and that failed miserably. This time, because of last time, he hired the guy. Taking over like Pierce did has zero in common with being the guy and running the team from day 1. So Davis hired an unknown, when maybe he could’ve hired the completest KNOWN in NFL history. He should have hired Belichick. I think the fit would’ve been perfect. If Davis was thinking that he got burned by Gruden’s reign and he didn’t want to go that way again with Belichick, he’d be dead wrong. Belichick isn’t Gruden, in anyway. My instincts tell me that Bill would’ve loved to coach Vegas and break Halas’s record while in Silver and Black. It’s an iconic franchise, that I think BB is a huge fan of, and it would’ve made a lot of sense and had the right look to the end of his recording breaking career. The NFL would’ve loved it too. Unless you guys pull up references to Belichick having beef with the Davis’s and tha Raiders..? I’d love to learn about it. I’m guessing that part of the interview process for these teams who are courting BB includes how they’ll handle the record breaking moment. To which, Bill will whisper-mutter …I don’t want anything happening between plays…. 1 3 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I think he should have hired Harbaugh. Unless of course Jim turned down an interview and we don't know about it. That was the best fit for him IMO. 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Good hire. He earned it with the job he did. Had the team playing hard & overachieving. They need a massive infusion of talent, starting at QB. 1 6 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think he should have hired Harbaugh. Unless of course Jim turned down an interview and we don't know about it. That was the best fit for him IMO. Doubtful Harbaugh wanted the job anyways. In my opinion, the Chargers are the most likely landing spot. 2 Quote
Punch Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) The players overwhelmingly wanted Pierce. The inmates can't run the asylum, but they clearly responded to him. Dan Campbell's success in Detroit is a recent example of a player's coach that earned the respect of the lockerroom, I bet that was a factor. Not to mention, quality candidates are also probably not lining up for the job. Edited January 20 by Punch 1 1 Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 Yes, I’ve got the Chargers and Harbaugh. Belichick was never going to go to that mess in LA. That’s exactly where players and coaches go to become irrelevant. A record of that stature happening for the Los Angeles Chargers is just a sad thing. I think the NFL just wants to forget that pigmy thing in the basement of SoFi even exists. The Falcons seem so strange for either of these two, but they could be offering the best deal to the coaches. Quote
ganesh Posted January 20 Posted January 20 26 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Good hire. He earned it with the job he did. Had the team playing hard & overachieving. They need a massive infusion of talent, starting at QB. They beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead 2 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I dont have the time or enrgery to look it up. But has there ever been an interim guy that then gets the full time job and done really well? I'm struggling to recall anyone that actually did well when they first got the job as an interim Note. This is NFL I'm talking. The Michigan basketball coach Steve Fisher that won a NCAA championship as and interim that took over for the Fab 5 may be the greatest interim to HC story in sports history. Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I dont have the time or enrgery to look it up. But has there ever been an interim guy that then gets the full time job and done really well? I'm struggling to recall anyone that actually did well when they first got the job as an interim Note. This is NFL I'm talking. The Michigan basketball coach Steve Fisher that won a NCAA championship as and interim that took over for the Fab 5 may be the greatest interim to HC story in sports history. Exactly. Plus, Pierce has no head coaching experience. This is beyond risky for the Raiders. I think people get blinded by the success during the interim. That’s no indicator for future success as the head guy beginning day 1. All I’m really saying is that it’s beyond risky, and there are other less riskier moves that could’ve been made. I’d have to think that the Raiders job is very prestigious to NFL men. In Vegas.. come on. This is a dream job. Edited January 20 by Thrivefourfive Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 28 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Doubtful Harbaugh wanted the job anyways. In my opinion, the Chargers are the most likely landing spot. They are a bad spot for him though. I don't see him and the Spanos family happily co-existing. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 22 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I dont have the time or enrgery to look it up. But has there ever been an interim guy that then gets the full time job and done really well? I'm struggling to recall anyone that actually did well when they first got the job as an interim Note. This is NFL I'm talking. The Michigan basketball coach Steve Fisher that won a NCAA championship as and interim that took over for the Fab 5 may be the greatest interim to HC story in sports history. I think Jeff Fisher was originally an interim with the Oilers, ended up coaching them to a Superbowl appearance (as the Titans). Remember seeing that on an NFL films thing. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I think Jeff Fisher was originally an interim with the Oilers, ended up coaching them to a Superbowl appearance (as the Titans). Remember seeing that on an NFL films thing. Excellent example. Thanks! Levy doesn't count. He took over team midway through a season but he wasn't the interim HC and he was not promoted from within. But to be honest I,don't recall if others were interviewed for the job back then.... I was 16 and not following that closely Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Excellent example. Thanks! The only other one I have is Marrone in Jax. Took them to an AFCCG but it was a lightening in a bottle season and they disintegrated quickly after. The one that always stood out as "shoulda" to me is Dan Campbell in Miami. Went 5-7 but his team competed their asses off every week and they passed him over to hire Adam Gase. Major mistake and I was saying it even then. 1 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They are a bad spot for him though. I don't see him and the Spanos family happily co-existing. Herbert is the equalizer. We shall see 😊 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Herbert is the equalizer. We shall see 😊 I think the chance to coach Herbert is no doubt tempting. But it is one of the worst ownership situations in the league. They don't like spending money and they interfere. Worst of both worlds. And Harbaugh is incapable of biting his tongue Edited January 20 by GunnerBill Quote
SinceThe70s Posted January 20 Posted January 20 42 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I dont have the time or enrgery to look it up. But has there ever been an interim guy that then gets the full time job and done really well? I'm struggling to recall anyone that actually did well when they first got the job as an interim Note. This is NFL I'm talking. The Michigan basketball coach Steve Fisher that won a NCAA championship as and interim that took over for the Fab 5 may be the greatest interim to HC story in sports history. Here's an article that lists all the interim coaches since 2000. Mostly uninspiring. https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/01/the-nfls-interim-coaches-since-2000 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think the chance to coach Herbert is no doubt tempting. But it is one of the worst ownership situations in the league. They don't like spending money and they interfere. Worst of both worlds. And Harbaugh is incapable of biting his tongue Those are facts but they may throw a ton of money his way. Definitely bizarre and erratic ownership! Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 25 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Here's an article that lists all the interim coaches since 2000. Mostly uninspiring. https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/01/the-nfls-interim-coaches-since-2000 Frazier and Garrett did get the jobs permanently and take their teams to the playoffs at least but other than them (and Marrone mentioned above) not a lot to note. Quote
SinceThe70s Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Frazier and Garrett did get the jobs permanently and take their teams to the playoffs at least but other than them (and Marrone mentioned above) not a lot to note. Those were the two that stuck out to me. Garrett had a long run but not overly successful. For the guys that retained the position it would be interesting how their longevity compares to the average first time coach. Quote
uninja Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I think this was a good hire. You want a coach that gets a team to punch above its weight and does more with less. Pierce clearly showed he could do that. Their DC, Patrick Graham, is one to watch as well. 1 Quote
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