Big Turk Posted January 21 Posted January 21 35 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: And here we goooo. No Taron? No Rasul? No Bernard? No Benford? No Gabe? OH BOY. WTF are you talking about? Douglas was a full practice Friday and is playing. Bernard and Johnson are questionable. Johnson seems to think he should clear protocol and be good. 4 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 21 Posted January 21 29 minutes ago, Trev said: Concussions didn’t even exists in the 80s… 28 minutes ago, Punch said: That's correct, back then players just got their bell rung. Even the 90's! I'm pretty certain at the end of the Giants Bills SB, Kelly got concussed. It forced the Bills to take a TO, likely if that hadn't happened they would have had another TO left towards end, likely could have ran a couple more plays, maybe got another 1st down and got closer for the FG 3 Quote
Billschinatown Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Even the 90's! I'm pretty certain at the end of the Giants Bills SB, Kelly got concussed. It forced the Bills to take a TO, likely if that hadn't happened they would have had another TO left towards end, likely could have ran a couple more plays, maybe got another 1st down and got closer for the FG Thank god he can't remember that happening; otherwise it might still keep him up at night. Edited January 21 by Billschinatown 3 1 Quote
NewEra Posted January 21 Posted January 21 To those saying Taron is probably going to play, what makes you say that? Because he’s optimistic or have we heard something more substantial? seems like a 50/50 to me. Passing concussion protocol on a short week is a toss up 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dillenger4 said: And here we goooo. No Taron? No Rasul? No Bernard? No Benford? No Gabe? OH BOY. I’m trying very hard to think that you’re not a troll It’s not going well 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 21 Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: To those saying Taron is probably going to play, what makes you say that? Because he’s optimistic or have we heard something more substantial? seems like a 50/50 to me. Passing concussion protocol on a short week is a toss up Seems like it was questionable if he actually had one in the first place Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 21 Posted January 21 26 minutes ago, NewEra said: To those saying Taron is probably going to play, what makes you say that? Because he’s optimistic or have we heard something more substantial? seems like a 50/50 to me. Passing concussion protocol on a short week is a toss up Seems like this year it is more likely than not guys are coming back in one week not two. 1 Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dillenger4 said: And here we goooo. No Taron? No Rasul? No Bernard? No Benford? No Gabe? OH BOY. WTF?! Someone deep inside feeding you this? Quote
NewEra Posted January 21 Posted January 21 25 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Seems like it was questionable if he actually had one in the first place 🤷🏻♂️ I think he’s had 5 recorded during his career. if he didn’t have one, wouldn’t he have cleared by now? 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted January 21 Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: WTF?! Someone deep inside feeding you this? 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: 🤷🏻♂️ I think he’s had 5 recorded during his career. if he didn’t have one, wouldn’t he have cleared by now? Once he is in the protocol you have to go thru each step which takes time Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 21 Posted January 21 23 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Seems like this year it is more likely than not guys are coming back in one week not two. Brock Purdy did it with one on Monday Night. Trevor Lawrence did it. Ty Johnson did it last week. The Bills played Monday Night and he was back on the practice field Wednesday afternoon. And obviously severe symptoms didn’t come back Thursday or Friday. Also, the initial contact was not intense. Not that it has to be, but it didn’t look obvious. Biggest thing I wondered was why was he shaking his hand? Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 54 minutes ago, NewEra said: To those saying Taron is probably going to play, what makes you say that? Because he’s optimistic or have we heard something more substantial? seems like a 50/50 to me. Passing concussion protocol on a short week is a toss up Yeah, it seems a lot of people are bypassing optimism for blind optimism. I really hope he plays. And considering he was on the field every day this week says to me he cleared a lot of the stages of protocol fairly early. So that's a good sign. But the fact remains that 6 days in Concussion Protocol is an incredibly small window. There are examples of people doing it in a week. But less than a week? I don't know how anyone can be so sure that's definitely going to happen. I'm extremely hopeful. But I won't be remotely surprised if the league doesn't clear him, regardless of what he's been saying. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo ill Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Even the 90's! I'm pretty certain at the end of the Giants Bills SB, Kelly got concussed. It forced the Bills to take a TO, likely if that hadn't happened they would have had another TO left towards end, likely could have ran a couple more plays, maybe got another 1st down and got closer for the FG In the late 90s I managed to give myself a concussion (and likely the other guy too) doing a John Lynch style helmet to helmet hit while blocking for a kickoff return. I couldn't remember my phone number when the trainer asked me. There was no treatment and I got to take the 10 hr bus ride home with the team. Yay for 90s high school football. 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 21 Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Yeah, it seems a lot of people are bypassing optimism for blind optimism. I really hope he plays. And considering he was on the field every day this week says to me he cleared a lot of the stages of protocol fairly early. So that's a good sign. But the fact remains that 6 days in Concussion Protocol is an incredibly small window. There are examples of people doing it in a week. But less than a week? I don't know how anyone can be so sure that's definitely going to happen. I'm extremely hopeful. But I won't be remotely surprised if the league doesn't clear him, regardless of what he's been saying. He’s flying around here: 3 3 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: He’s flying around here: I've seen that. And I've seen the quotes from him. But all it takes is one concussion specialist for the League to say "I'm sorry, but 6 days isn't enough time" and all of that doesn't matter. Again, I'm very optimistic and i'm really, REALLY hopeful he gets cleared. But it's not a sure thing until it is and there's things at play that can supercede everything we've seen and heard. Edited January 21 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 21 Posted January 21 20 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I've seen that. And I've seen the quotes from him. But all it takes is one concussion specialist for the League to say "I'm sorry, but 6 days isn't enough time" and all of that doesn't matter. Again, I'm very optimistic and i'm really, REALLY hopeful he gets cleared. But it's not a sure thing until it is and there's things at play that can supercede everything we've seen and heard. Yes but that stuff is collectively bargained. Is the baseline test back to normal and are there no symptoms? I have no idea what constitutes the final test from the independent neurologist, but something like this has to be somewhat based on data correct? Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 21 Posted January 21 He clearly hasn’t cleared yet. Tomorrow am is last chance. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yes but that stuff is collectively bargained. Is the baseline test back to normal and are there no symptoms? I have no idea what constitutes the final test from the independent neurologist, but something like this has to be somewhat based on data correct? Neither do I. But it would be unwise to think that it's impossible that league PR isn't also in play. Clearing a guy of a head injury in less than a week and then he takes another head injury that causes damage and they'd come under fire for clearing him so quickly. Again, I'm all for optimism and I have my fingers crossed he's cleared. But it's coming down to a decision by a doctor within hours of kickoff - regarding clearing a guy of Concussion Protocol in less than a Week. So cautious optimism is as far as I'm willing to go. Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Seems like it was questionable if he actually had one in the first place If that’s the case they need to stop holding these guys out. We all know that doctors aren’t the same. Can’t give doctors the power to keep a guy off the field in a situation like this. What if KC has a doctor that doesn’t feel as strongly towards debatable concussions…??? (Can we offer him a contract..) Quote
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