daz28 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 25 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I am open to learning. Can you provide a link to anything that ties “America First” to a group of 1 million American nazis? It’s now a rhetorical question. Just another instance of you pretending to know something. The “you may not be aware” bit does give it an air of authority however. Nicely done. And what about Edith? You need a better link than their top spokesman Lindbergh? A guy who literally was given The Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle by Hilter, personally pinned by Goring a few weeks before Kristallnacht. Do you think it's any surprise that after CL gave the speech I quoted before, that it's when AF was the most popular it ever was? If there were any non-Nazis in that group, they CERTAINLY would have left it after hearing that, and seeing what was happening to Jews in Germany. Some of those "good people" were AT BEST Nazi simps. So we have 850k in America First, 25k in the Bund, which is $875k ACTUAL MEMBERS of Nazi movements. I imagine they had a few friends, who weren't actual card-carrying members, which would take us easily over 1M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, daz28 said: You need a better link than their top spokesman Lindbergh? A guy who literally was given The Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle by Hilter, personally pinned by Goring a few weeks before Kristallnacht. Do you think it's any surprise that after CL gave the speech I quoted before, that it's when AF was the most popular it ever was? If there were any non-Nazis in that group, they CERTAINLY would have left it after hearing that, and seeing what was happening to Jews in Germany. Some of those "good people" were AT BEST Nazi simps. So we have 850k in America First, 25k in the Bund, which is $875k ACTUAL MEMBERS of Nazi movements. I imagine they had a few friends, who weren't actual card-carrying members, which would take us easily over 1M. I guess you never heard of the Declaration of Independence or the Monroe Doctrine. But, hey, keep doing your best to sling the word "Nazi" around. It's clearly your last resort after calling everyone a "racist". Your garbage isn't working anymore. If you want to talk about history, yes, there was a Nazi influence in this country as well as a communist influence in this country (which I believe still persists). If you don't want to make America great or put America first then maybe YOU are the Nazi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 6 hours ago, daz28 said: You need a better link than their top spokesman Lindbergh? A guy who literally was given The Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle by Hilter, personally pinned by Goring a few weeks before Kristallnacht. Do you think it's any surprise that after CL gave the speech I quoted before, that it's when AF was the most popular it ever was? If there were any non-Nazis in that group, they CERTAINLY would have left it after hearing that, and seeing what was happening to Jews in Germany. Some of those "good people" were AT BEST Nazi simps. So we have 850k in America First, 25k in the Bund, which is $875k ACTUAL MEMBERS of Nazi movements. I imagine they had a few friends, who weren't actual card-carrying members, which would take us easily over 1M. Historian Susan Dunn has concluded that, "Though most of its members were probably patriotic, well-meaning, and honest in their efforts, the AFC would never be able to purge itself of the taint of anti-Semitism."[6] Historian Daz28 has concluded there was a group of 1 million American NAZIS!! 🤦🏽🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♂️ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 5/24/2024 at 8:09 AM, JDHillFan said: Historian Susan Dunn has concluded that, "Though most of its members were probably patriotic, well-meaning, and honest in their efforts, the AFC would never be able to purge itself of the taint of anti-Semitism."[6] Historian Daz28 has concluded there was a group of 1 million American NAZIS!! 🤦🏽🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♂️ When Lindberg gave his speech blaming Jews for everything, and Germany was openly doing horrible things to Jews, that might have been a good time to separate from the group. Did they? No, they became even more popular. They clearly had moved on from just an isolationist group at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 5/24/2024 at 1:34 AM, phypon said: I guess you never heard of the Declaration of Independence or the Monroe Doctrine. But, hey, keep doing your best to sling the word "Nazi" around. It's clearly your last resort after calling everyone a "racist". Your garbage isn't working anymore. If you want to talk about history, yes, there was a Nazi influence in this country as well as a communist influence in this country (which I believe still persists). If you don't want to make America great or put America first then maybe YOU are the Nazi. Calling everyone racist? I don't think so. Calling some people who are openly anti-LGBTQ bigots? Guilty as charged. Yes, there were both Nazi and communist influences. A lot of people on here won't accept that fact that there were Nazis(or Nazi simps-just as bad), unless they were riding a panther into the Ardennes under the Waffen SS Death head banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 25 minutes ago, daz28 said: When Lindberg gave his speech blaming Jews for everything, and Germany was openly doing horrible things to Jews, that might have been a good time to separate from the group. Did they? No, they became even more popular. They clearly had moved on from just an isolationist group at that time. one MILLION American nazis keep digging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: one MILLION American nazis keep digging Would it be better if we called them antisemitic American Nazi sympathizers? Have you come up with a way to explain why the group got larger the more the antisemitism rhetoric was ramped up? Any reasoning why the "good people" in the group stuck around after they knew what a horrible direction it was headed in? 850k actual members, so you must be bad at math. Anyone who remained an isolationist after Hitler was showing that defeating Europe might be a piece of cake, was not just a Nazi, but also un-American. Did they think that we'd just be good buddies with the Nazis after they conquered everything??? Maybe instead of Israel, we could have just had our across the sea Nazi buddies send us all the Jews, and we could give them Montana or something. The absolute funniest part of this whole discussion is you guys call EVERYONE commies. Try to imagine me arguing that I'm in a group, who's spokesperson was personally pinned with highest honors by Stalin and Chairman Moa, but STILL insisting I'm not a commie. Can you DIG that? / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: Would it be better if we called them antisemitic American Nazi sympathizers? Have you come up with a way to explain why the group got larger the more the antisemitism rhetoric was ramped up? Any reasoning why the "good people" in the group stuck around after they knew what a horrible direction it was headed in? 850k actual members, so you must be bad at math. Anyone who remained an isolationist after Hitler was showing that defeating Europe might be a piece of cake, was not just a Nazi, but also un-American. Did they think that we'd just be good buddies with the Nazis after they conquered everything??? Maybe instead of Israel, we could have just had our across the sea Nazi buddies send us all the Jews, and we could give them Montana or something. The absolute funniest part of this whole discussion is you guys call EVERYONE commies. Try to imagine me arguing that I'm in a group, whose spokesperson was personally pinned with highest honors by Stalin and Chairman Moa, but STILL insisting I'm not a commie. Can you DIG that? / A good part of your schtick is to make a ridiculous claim, be completely unwilling to back it up despite having access to the internet, and then spinning and spinning as you are questioned on the original ridiculous claim. I will gladly move along if you can provide a single link where you gleaned the information that “America first is a group of 1 million American nazis”. Should be easy enough, right? Rhetorical question as such a link does not exist. The only place it exists is in your imagination. Now, about Edith Bunker and those video games… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 26 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: A good part of your schtick is to make a ridiculous claim, be completely unwilling to back it up despite having access to the internet, and then spinning and spinning as you are questioned on the original ridiculous claim. I will gladly move along if you can provide a single link where you gleaned the information that “America first is a group of 1 million American nazis”. Should be easy enough, right? Rhetorical question as such a link does not exist. The only place it exists is in your imagination. Now, about Edith Bunker and those video games… Can you show me one single link where anyone of the nutbars on here gleaned that ONE SINGLE American is a commie or a marxist? I can show you 10,000 posts where people make that claim, but You'd be awful busy asking them for the proof/evidence wouldn't you? Again, if Hitler and Goring are pinning you a hero, because you're helping try to spread Nazism in America, you're a Nazi yourself. If you're in the group that hero is speaking to and cheering on, I'd have to assume you're a Nazi simp at best. If it talks like a Nazi, it's a Nazi. Otherwise, I'll more than happy for you to stop calling anyone a commie, until you can provide proof of their party affiliation cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 9 minutes ago, daz28 said: Can you show me one single link where anyone of the nutbars on here gleaned that ONE SINGLE American is a commie or a marxist? I can show you 10,000 posts where people make that claim, but You'd be awful busy asking them for the proof/evidence wouldn't you? Again, if Hitler and Goring are pinning you a hero, because you're helping try to spread Nazism in America, you're a Nazi yourself. If you're in the group that hero is speaking to and cheering on, I'd have to assume you're a Nazi simp at best. If it talks like a Nazi, it's a Nazi. Otherwise, I'll more than happy for you to stop calling anyone a commie, until you can provide proof of their party affiliation cards. Your first paragraph here is commonly known as “deflection”. Incredibly weak on your part. You made a ridiculous statement several days ago, one that you tried to lend an air of authority to with “you may not be aware” that you can’t corroborate with a single reference. That’s on you. I will donate to the anti-nazi charity of your choice if you can find a post where I call someone a commie. You don’t want to spend a lot of time looking. Would be a waste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Your first paragraph here is commonly known as “deflection”. Incredibly weak on your part. You made a ridiculous statement several days ago, one that you tried to lend an air of authority to with “you may not be aware” that you can’t corroborate with a single reference. That’s on you. I will donate to the anti-nazi charity of your choice if you can find a post where I call someone a commie. You don’t want to spend a lot of time looking. Would be a waste. Have you called anyone out for calling people commies and marxists? No, why not? You seem very eager here to claim that people who were STILL behind Lindberg, after he refused to return his medal, when they knew all the awful things that were happening to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis, weren't Nazis. You're asking me to show you gravity, when you know the best I can possibly do is explain it to you. Will you donate if I can show a post that you liked or agreed with that someone was accused of being a commie? Edited May 26 by daz28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Have you called anyone out for calling people commies and marxists? No, why not? You seem very eager here to claim that people who were STILL behind Lindberg, after he refused to return his medal, when they knew all the awful things that were happening to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis, weren't Nazis. You're asking me to show you gravity, when you know the best I can possibly do is explain it to you. I don’t need you to show me gravity but thank you nonetheless. All I have asked is for you to back up the baseless claim you made. You can’t (there is not a single reference you can cite)and evidently all you have left is “some people listened to Charles Lindbergh”. Why on earth did you claim that Edith Bunker played video games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I don’t need you to show me gravity but thank you nonetheless. All I have asked is for you to back up the baseless claim you made. You can’t (there is not a single reference you can cite)and evidently all you have left is “some people listened to Charles Lindbergh”. Why on earth did you claim that Edith Bunker played video games? What was Lindberg saying, that they were listening to? Why were they spewing hate at their meetings, and inviting antisemitic guest speakers, but gaining members instead of losing them? I get it, you want me to show you their Nazi party membership cards. I can't, but I can show you their America First Committee cards, though. I can only assume you're going to be a very busy boy on here asking people for proof that Americans are commies and marxists. Hope you got A LOT of free time. Because that's what homemakers do, apparently. Not imo, though. If you really want info on it, it's in the Butker thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biden is Mentally Fit Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: What was Lindberg saying, that they were listening to? Why were they spewing hate at their meetings, and inviting antisemitic guest speakers, but gaining members instead of losing them? I get it, you want me to show you their Nazi party membership cards. I can't, but I can show you their America First Committee cards, though. I can only assume you're going to be a very busy boy on here asking people for proof that Americans are commies and marxists. Hope you got A LOT of free time. Because that's what homemakers do, apparently. Not imo, though. If you really want info on it, it's in the Butker thread. Total dumbassery on your part. I don’t care what anyone here calls anyone else. When someone, like you, makes something up and pretends it to be beyond reproach, I like to call them on it. You make it easy. At least you have given up on the 1 million part and made it about Lindbergh. Lindbergh with an h at the end. A historian of your caliber should know that. You made more sense when you were pretending to know what the Strategic Petroleum Reserve was. It’s easy to understand why you won’t take the All in the Family bait. Good for you. Hopefully you learn the pointlessness of embellishment. Unlikely, I know. It’s almost as bad as the jackass here that wanted people to think he went to school with Susan Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daz28 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) 48 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Total dumbassery on your part. I don’t care what anyone here calls anyone else. When someone, like you, makes something up and pretends it to be beyond reproach, I like to call them on it. You make it easy. At least you have given up on the 1 million part and made it about Lindbergh. Lindbergh with an h at the end. A historian of your caliber should know that. You made more sense when you were pretending to know what the Strategic Petroleum Reserve was. It’s easy to understand why you won’t take the All in the Family bait. Good for you. Hopefully you learn the pointlessness of embellishment. Unlikely, I know. It’s almost as bad as the jackass here that wanted people to think he went to school with Susan Collins. I made it about LindbergH LEADING the AFC(850k members and certainly many followers), because at the time people were saying his were the "the words of Hitler" and "straight from Berlin". The only thing I'm giving up on is that you're capable of making an OBVIOUS AF connection. The SPR IS crude oil(but only in 4 specific holding locations), no matter how much you want to pound the table that it's not, and the fact that it isn't low either. -U.S. Crude Oil Reserves - 110 Year Historical Chart | MacroTrends Bait? I'm not the one who claimed housewives sit on the couch. When you show me embellishment, I'll take the point, but that hasn't happened yet. You're just really bad at math and making obvious connections. Like I said, if Tibs and Billsy both follow Joe Biden and cheer his commie speeches, after he was pinned by Chairman Mao and Stalin personally, they're probably commies themselves. Not just "good people" mixed up with the wrong crowd. Honestly, and LD 8-year-old could make that connection, but somehow I'm the jackass of dumbassery. LOLOL Let me guess, you're only correcting my spelling, because "I make that easy" too? At least we know you're only going after what you deem to be the low hanging fruit. Yeah, no. It's pretty obvious you have an aversion to certain facts, and I happen to be providing them. I guess I won't take it personal, then. Edited May 26 by daz28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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