Tommy Callahan Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/04/30/united-states-mexico-border-surge-biden/ SAN DIEGO — Illegal crossings along the U.S.-Mexico border are down more than 40 percent since December and have remained relatively stable through the first four months of 2024, bringing a modest reprieve for President Biden on an issue regarded as a liability to his reelection campaign. Sign up for Fact Checker, our weekly review of what's true, false or in-between in politics. Crossings often increase sharply during early spring, but that did not happen for the first time since Biden took office. In April, U.S. border agents have encountered about 130,000 migrants who entered illegally from Mexico, a level that is high by historical standards but lower than February and March, according to the latest U.S. enforcement data obtained by The Washington Post. They are calling home and telling the others they shove them in crap hotels and it's cold as hell. And the fact most will be deported when the asylum case is complete Edited May 9 by Tommy Callahan
Tiberius Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: They are calling home and telling the others they shove them in crap hotels and it's cold as hell. And the fact most will be deported when the asylum case is complete Nah, just a natural slow down. Be slower if Trump had not killed the bi-partisan border deal 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 9 Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Nah, just a natural slow down. Be slower if Trump had not killed the bi-partisan border deal The deal was bogus. 1
Tiberius Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: The deal was bogus. Of course you will say that. If Trump liked it, you'd like it
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Of course you will say that. If Trump liked it, you'd like it No I don't like it because it was bogus. Lowered the number of illegals along with providing more perks. I'm confident they'd take the perks and ignore the limits. Joe can just issue an executive order and shut the whole thing down if his handlers directed him to do that but they won't. I saw this little gem today. You believe these demands illegals encamped near the Denver Airport are making on officials there as reasonable? This entire 10m people nightmare is out of control. 13 demands: Migrants will cook their own food with fresh, culturally appropriate ingredients provided by the City instead of premade meals - rice, chicken, flour, oil, butter, tomatoes, onions, etc... Also people will not be punished for bringing in & eating outside food. Shower access will be available without time limits & can be accessed whenever - we are not in the military, we’re civilians. Medical professional visits will happen regularly & referrals/connections for specialty care will be made as needed. All will receive the same housing support that has been offered to others. They cannot kick people out in 30 days without something stable established. There needs to be a clear, just process before exiting someone for any reason - including verbal, written, & final warnings. All shelter residents will receive connection to employment support, including work permit applications for those who qualify. Consultations for each person/family with a free immigration lawyer must be arranged to discuss/progress their cases, & then the City will provide on-going legal support in the form of immigration document clinics, & including transportation to relevant court dates. The City will provide privacy for families/individuals within the shelter. No more verbal or physical or mental abuse will be permitted from the staff, including no sheriff sleeping inside & monitoring 24/7 - we are not criminals & won’t be treated as such. Transportation for all children to & from their schools will be provided until they finish in 3 weeks. No separating families, regardless of if family members have children or not. The camp will stay together. The City must schedule a meeting with the Mayor & those directly involved in running the Newcomer program ASAP to discuss further improvements & ways to support migrants. The City must provide all residents with a document signed by a City official in English & Spanish with all of these demands that includes a number to call to report mistreatment of if they aren’t How about, no, and throw their asses out? Edited May 9 by All_Pro_Bills 3
Tiberius Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: How about, no, and throw their asses out? I'd rather throw you out. F u 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 9 Posted May 9 57 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'd rather throw you out. F u As the liberal cult of chaos doesn't believe in borders I'm surprised by your admission that there is an "in" or "out". 1
Tommy Callahan Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: As the liberal cult of chaos doesn't believe in borders I'm surprised by your admission that there is an "in" or "out". That one holds headlines tight and doesn't seem to understand the topics past the headline. I don't think it's that bright. Then When it goes off script. It mirrors the fascist ideology it claims to be fighting.
Tiberius Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 10 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: As the liberal cult of chaos doesn't believe in borders I'm surprised by your admission that there is an "in" or "out". The country would be way better off with the MAGA disease in it 1
B-Man Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Trying to pass a weak-ass bill again, instead of enforcing our laws. (it's just another attempt to blame Republicans for their own mess) 1
Doc Posted May 20 Posted May 20 On 5/9/2024 at 11:57 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: As the liberal cult of chaos doesn't believe in borders I'm surprised by your admission that there is an "in" or "out". This is them admitting how much they hate America. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted May 23 Posted May 23 On 5/9/2024 at 10:50 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: No I don't like it because it was bogus. Lowered the number of illegals along with providing more perks. I'm confident they'd take the perks and ignore the limits. Joe can just issue an executive order and shut the whole thing down if his handlers directed him to do that but they won't. I saw this little gem today. You believe these demands illegals encamped near the Denver Airport are making on officials there as reasonable? This entire 10m people nightmare is out of control. 13 demands: Migrants will cook their own food with fresh, culturally appropriate ingredients provided by the City instead of premade meals - rice, chicken, flour, oil, butter, tomatoes, onions, etc... Also people will not be punished for bringing in & eating outside food. Shower access will be available without time limits & can be accessed whenever - we are not in the military, we’re civilians. Medical professional visits will happen regularly & referrals/connections for specialty care will be made as needed. All will receive the same housing support that has been offered to others. They cannot kick people out in 30 days without something stable established. There needs to be a clear, just process before exiting someone for any reason - including verbal, written, & final warnings. All shelter residents will receive connection to employment support, including work permit applications for those who qualify. Consultations for each person/family with a free immigration lawyer must be arranged to discuss/progress their cases, & then the City will provide on-going legal support in the form of immigration document clinics, & including transportation to relevant court dates. The City will provide privacy for families/individuals within the shelter. No more verbal or physical or mental abuse will be permitted from the staff, including no sheriff sleeping inside & monitoring 24/7 - we are not criminals & won’t be treated as such. Transportation for all children to & from their schools will be provided until they finish in 3 weeks. No separating families, regardless of if family members have children or not. The camp will stay together. The City must schedule a meeting with the Mayor & those directly involved in running the Newcomer program ASAP to discuss further improvements & ways to support migrants. The City must provide all residents with a document signed by a City official in English & Spanish with all of these demands that includes a number to call to report mistreatment of if they aren’t How about, no, and throw their asses out? Damn its changed up. What happened to people coming here for the opportunities. Not for the economic and state benefits. On 5/9/2024 at 12:08 PM, Tiberius said: The country would be way better off with the MAGA disease in it And then? the fact you guys call anything outside the DEM narrative, MAGA. You sound like you're about an inch from wanting reeducation camps for them or something
Tiberius Posted May 23 Author Posted May 23 Can't justify a Nazi like crackdown if the issue is already settled
Tommy Callahan Posted May 23 Posted May 23 must be to the end of the script. it's just NAZI, NAZI, NAZI. over and over again.
The Frankish Reich Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Agreed. It's a decent compromise bill, and will improve the situation at the border (and in our cities receiving these immigrants). It's not perfection. It is called governing. And nothing in the bill would stop Trump, if lawfully elected, from doing the so-called "mass deportations" discussed in the other thread. Trump's opposition is about the election, not about policy.
BillStime Posted May 23 Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Agreed. It's a decent compromise bill, and will improve the situation at the border (and in our cities receiving these immigrants). It's not perfection. It is called governing. And nothing in the bill would stop Trump, if lawfully elected, from doing the so-called "mass deportations" discussed in the other thread. Trump's opposition is about the election, not about policy. Party above country + Trump above all.
Doc Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Biden created the mess alone. He can also fix it alone. That's why most people blame him.
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