Doc Posted February 14 Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Andy1 said: The border is the way it is because both parties want it that way. Big sectors of the economy supporting republicans like having lots of undocumented workers they can exploit. Agriculture, construction, hotels and restaurants, etc all use them by the hundreds of thousands. Law and order politicians don’t want to crack down on businesses employing illegals. Dems think they are getting future voters. If both parties felt it was a critical problem to solve, they would have compromised and passed legislation on it years ago. Politics has always been more important than solutions. Migrants see economic opportunity so they come. Under Trump only 2M illegals came in. Under Joke it's 8M in 3 years. That's over a 5-fold difference. And the markedly increased number of illegals is causing major problems in sanctuary cities, from strained budgets to crime. Which is why the topic is now #1 for most people and why the Dems are scrambling to get something done and pin it on the Repubs, after 3 years of laughably claiming there's no crisis. And you should know that it takes 60 votes in the Senate to pass a law. Which side do you think is more responsible for preventing passage? 1 1
BillStime Posted February 14 Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Doc said: Under Trump only 2M illegals came in. Under Joke it's 8M in 3 years. That's over a 5-fold difference. And the markedly increased number of illegals is causing major problems in sanctuary cities, from strained budgets to crime. Which is why the topic is now #1 for most people and why the Dems are scrambling to get something done and pin it on the Repubs, after 3 years of laughably claiming there's no crisis. And you should know that it takes 60 votes in the Senate to pass a law. Which side do you think is more responsible for preventing passage? Number 1 is abortion - enough w the psyop DoC.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 14 Posted February 14 8 hours ago, Andy1 said: Republicans are a joke of a party. Donald has them all living in fear. Policy, legislation and governing doesn’t matter to them. Biden caved on all Dem immigration policy principles to give Republicans a deal. They couldn’t take it. They can only do what the boss wants. Cult. I know critical thinking is tough. Shouldn't stop you from trying though.
Andy1 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Functioning parties accomplish their legislative goals when, for whatever reason, the opposition and or they, compromise. Not a single bill passed by congress is perfect. This is called democracy. On the border issue, republicans have effectively put dems in a bind as they are flooding the cities with migrants. The goal of this was to force dems to compromise to get legislation passed. It worked. Biden caved on traditional Dem negotiating issues and was willing to sign a landmark bill to help resolve this issue. Now instead of passing this bill that gave Republicans just about everything, the party decides they can’t do it because Donnie says no. They would rather scream about it for political grandstanding than get something accomplished. Maybe they just all figure when Trump gets back in, the dictator Donnie will solve the problem unilaterally and get them 100% of whatever they/he wants. They are a joke of a party. 1 1
Tiberius Posted February 14 Author Posted February 14 Nice Job Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/14/immigration-customs-enforcement-budget-deficit-republicans/ U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has drafted plans to release thousands of immigrants and slash its capacity to hold detainees after the failure of a Senate border bill that would have erased a $700 million budget shortfall, according to four officials at ICE and the Department of Homeland Security. The bipartisan border bill that Republican lawmakers opposed last week would have provided $6 billion in supplemental funding for ICE enforcement operations. The bill’s demise has led ICE officials to begin circulating an internal proposal to save money by releasing thousands of detainees and cutting detention levels from 38,000 beds to 22,000 — the opposite of the enforcement increases Republicans say they want.
Doc Posted February 14 Posted February 14 3 hours ago, Andy1 said: Functioning parties accomplish their legislative goals when, for whatever reason, the opposition and or they, compromise. Not a single bill passed by congress is perfect. This is called democracy. On the border issue, republicans have effectively put dems in a bind as they are flooding the cities with migrants. The goal of this was to force dems to compromise to get legislation passed. It worked. Biden caved on traditional Dem negotiating issues and was willing to sign a landmark bill to help resolve this issue. Now instead of passing this bill that gave Republicans just about everything, the party decides they can’t do it because Donnie says no. They would rather scream about it for political grandstanding than get something accomplished. Maybe they just all figure when Trump gets back in, the dictator Donnie will solve the problem unilaterally and get them 100% of whatever they/he wants. They are a joke of a party. There is no need for compromise on the border. We cannot handle more people entering per year under Joke as entered in total under Trump. To the point where cities are “in a bind” with relatively few illegals being sent there because Texas shouldn’t have to financially support them all. The Dems created this mess and lied about it being a crisis until the polling data showed illegal immigration is the #1 topic, because of the crime and diversion of funds, housing and support to them over American citizens, especially POC.
B-Man Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Democrats Have Another Dirty Trick to Play on Illegal Immigration. “Let’s call this threat what it really is: political blackmail. ‘Give the Democrats what they want,’ ICE said in effect, ‘or we’ll unleash even more illegals on you.’ And what the Democrats want, I don’t need to remind you, is more illegal aliens.” https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/02/14/democrats-have-another-dirty-trick-to-play-on-illegal-immigration-n4926422 .
Doc Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Releasing more illegals after illegal immigration is the #1 issue and hurting only Dems.
B-Man Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Lindsey Graham’s latest scheme is convincing Republicans that it’s somehow better to loan Zelensky $60 billion, rather than give it to him. Some are falling for this. But it’s fraudulent. Ukraine will never repay the debt, and we’ll never make them. This is just a more dishonest way to send more unaccounted for weapons to the region, delay the inevitable peace deal and kill more forcibly-conscripted Ukrainians, some of whom are nearly Lindsey Graham’s age. It’d be easier to take if he’d join them on the battlefield. https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1758284443490607427
B-Man Posted February 23 Posted February 23 House Republicans have been sounding the alarm about the catastrophic effects of President Biden's open border policies since he began his term. Last year, I sent a letter to the President to demand he take immediate executive action. He has thus far ignored my demands, and the pleas from big city mayors, border state governors, and the American people. Now, in an election year, after the president has surrendered the border to cartels and smugglers, after tens of thousands of Americans have tragically lost their lives due to fentanyl poisoning, after countless unaccompanied minors and young people have been subjected to human trafficking, and after millions of illegal aliens have been scattered by the Biden administration throughout our country - the President suddenly seems interested in trying to make a change using the legal authority that he claimed until recently didn't exist. Americans have lost faith in this President and won't be fooled by election year gimmicks that don't actually secure the border. Nor will they forget that the President created this catastrophe and, until now, has refused to use his executive power to fix it. These reports also underscore just how brazenly and intentionally President Biden misled the public when he claimed he had done everything in his power to secure the border. Specifically, the President's alleged desire to invoke Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which the White House dismissed using for months, is particularly telling. If these reports are true and the President intends to take action, he can show he's serious by changing more than asylum policy. He should begin by reinstituting the "Remain in Mexico" policy and ending his administration's abuse of the parole system, along with other critical reforms. 1
BillStime Posted February 25 Posted February 25 This fkn idiot - how many of his wives are not from here?
aristocrat Posted February 25 Posted February 25 On 2/22/2024 at 10:08 PM, BillStime said: This idiot what happened during trumps presidency when he worked on border security? Aoc holding photo shoots, called the policies racist and they fought for open borders. Now you’re seeing the results of that. Nothing like creating a massive problem and then blaming someone else for not helping to fix it lol 1
BillStime Posted February 25 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: what happened during trumps presidency when he worked on border security? Aoc holding photo shoots, called the policies racist and they fought for open borders. Now you’re seeing the results of that. Nothing like creating a massive problem and then blaming someone else for not helping to fix it lol But you told us he built a wall and that solved everything. And now you freaks are telling us the border isn’t an issue and can wait until 2025. Whats next?
Doc Posted February 25 Posted February 25 14 minutes ago, aristocrat said: what happened during trumps presidency when he worked on border security? Aoc holding photo shoots, called the policies racist and they fought for open borders. Now you’re seeing the results of that. Nothing like creating a massive problem and then blaming someone else for not helping to fix it lol And realize that there were a fifth of the illegals entering the country under Trump despite Dems' efforts to decrease illegal immigration.
aristocrat Posted February 25 Posted February 25 21 minutes ago, BillStime said: But you told us he built a wall and that solved everything. And now you freaks are telling us the border isn’t an issue and can wait until 2025. Whats next? so you’re upset because dems used the border as a political tactic and now the republicans are doing the same? The left created this problem and now you expect them to solve it?
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