US Egg Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 Why don’t Democrats simply tell the American people the truth and say what the bill really is. A $118 billion Ukraine military aid package that includes $12 billion for the border. 1 1
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 (edited) On 2/10/2024 at 4:29 PM, B-Man said: . Expand Stealing my children’s future Come on now On 2/13/2024 at 4:00 AM, B-Man said: Expand What in the world would Republicans have to complain about if they actually passed immigration reform Not much, and that is the feature Edited February 13, 2024 by John from Riverside
Tommy Callahan Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 Another result of Dems failed policies. 1 1
Doc Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 7:45 AM, John from Riverside said: What in the world would Republicans have to complain about if they actually passed immigration reform Not much, and that is the feature Expand Well, first we need a bill with real immigration reform... 1 1
Westside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 7:45 AM, John from Riverside said: Stealing my children’s future Come on now What in the world would Republicans have to complain about if they actually passed immigration reform Not much, and that is the feature Expand Do you believe the bill has the best interest of the country at heart? Is sending over a hundred billion to Ukraine and only 12 billion for protecting our border is a good thing? I’m serious about your opinion. I’m not going to insult or demean you I’m just honestly curious. Thank you for your response. On 2/13/2024 at 2:48 PM, Tommy Callahan said: Another result of Dems failed policies. Expand What is the Biden administration doing to protect us from this criminal element? 1
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:15 PM, Westside said: Do you believe the bill has the best interest of the country at heart? Is sending over a hundred billion to Ukraine and only 12 billion for protecting our border is a good thing? I’m serious about your opinion. I’m not going to insult or demean you I’m just honestly curious. Thank you for your response. What is the Biden administration doing to protect us from this criminal element? Expand 12 billion seemed low to me But the provisions of the bill were the most conservative in a long, long time let’s keep in mind we don’t have a Covid designation anymore to be able to shut down the border like trumpet and yes, people like the sound off and say that Trump shut down the border blah blah blah he had protections in place that allowed him to do that they are now gone. Biden doesn’t have them to work with, this would’ve given the president. Any president be able to shut down the border, if border encounters became too high. But it doesn’t really matter. Trump wants this issue so he can run on it. He put a call into his minions to kill it. 1
Westside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:23 PM, John from Riverside said: 12 billion seemed low to me But the provisions of the bill were the most conservative in a long, long time let’s keep in mind we don’t have a Covid designation anymore to be able to shut down the border like trumpet and yes, people like the sound off and say that Trump shut down the border blah blah blah he had protections in place that allowed him to do that they are now gone. Biden doesn’t have them to work with, this would’ve given the president. Any president be able to shut down the border, if border encounters became too high. But it doesn’t really matter. Trump wants this issue so he can run on it. He put a call into his minions to kill it. Expand He already has the authority to do that! This is first and foremost a money and power grab by the elites. But the most frustrating thing is average citizens like you and me are left holding the bill for their greed. Are you ok with that? Another question John, do you believe Ukraine deserves over ten times the amount American taxpayers deserve? 1 2
Tommy Callahan Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:15 PM, Westside said: What is the Biden administration doing to protect us from this criminal element? Expand Nothing, in fact him and the dems sanctuary policies are making it worse. On 2/13/2024 at 3:23 PM, John from Riverside said: 12 billion seemed low to me But the provisions of the bill were the most conservative in a long, long time let’s keep in mind we don’t have a Covid designation anymore to be able to shut down the border like trumpet and yes, people like the sound off and say that Trump shut down the border blah blah blah he had protections in place that allowed him to do that they are now gone. Biden doesn’t have them to work with, this would’ve given the president. Any president be able to shut down the border, if border encounters became too high. But it doesn’t really matter. Trump wants this issue so he can run on it. He put a call into his minions to kill it. Expand So, no actual answer. just TDS rant. 1
Westside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:36 PM, Tommy Callahan said: Nothing, in fact him and the dems sanctuary policies are making it worse. So, no actual answer. just TDS rant. Expand I agree with you 100%. I just want John to explain why he thinks Ukraines security is worth ten times more than America’s.
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:41 PM, Westside said: I agree with you 100%. I just want John to explain why he thinks Ukraines security is worth ten times more than America’s. Expand Did you miss the part where I said that 12 billion seemed like a low number
BillStime Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:41 PM, Westside said: I agree with you 100%. I just want John to explain why he thinks Ukraines security is worth ten times more than America’s. Expand It's not worth MORE; but preserving Democracy is just as important. Why do you want Putin to win?
Doc Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 3:23 PM, John from Riverside said: 12 billion seemed low to me But the provisions of the bill were the most conservative in a long, long time let’s keep in mind we don’t have a Covid designation anymore to be able to shut down the border like trumpet and yes, people like the sound off and say that Trump shut down the border blah blah blah he had protections in place that allowed him to do that they are now gone. Biden doesn’t have them to work with, this would’ve given the president. Any president be able to shut down the border, if border encounters became too high. But it doesn’t really matter. Trump wants this issue so he can run on it. He put a call into his minions to kill it. Expand This is wrong/false. Title 42 wasn't in effect for over 3 of Trump's 4 years (because Wuhan virus didn't hit until early 2020). Yet only 2M illegals came in under Trump. Title 42 was in effect for 2-1/2 years of Joke's Presidency and yet 8M illegals came in.
Westside Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 2/13/2024 at 4:07 PM, John from Riverside said: Did you miss the part where I said that 12 billion seemed like a low number Expand But you have no problem with spending ten times as much to “secure” Ukraines borders but so little on our own? I know you said it seems like a low number. That’s not what I asked you. Can you give me an honest answer without deflecting?
Tommy Callahan Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 In the absence of leadership, a vaccume is formed.
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