Ron Rivera for Bills DC?

[RangerDave]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

The mentality of the 'fire McDermott' crowd is beyond stupid.

I guess if a team doesn't win the Superbowl within 5 years or so, the head coach should be dismissed. Brilliant. Of course, there's never any real solution offered by those voices. Just "fire the coach". 

The NFL landscape is littered with fired coaches who were sure-fire candidates from the coordinator ranks.

 

Who's your answer? What can't miss coach is coming to Buffalo? Are you such a gambler that you'll put all your chips on a coordinator with no track record over the guy who's led his team into the playoff in 6 out of 7 seasons? Maybe you'd prefer a retread like Belichick or Carroll. No thanks.

Personally, I wouldn't make that bet. The better odds are that we'd be right back to the good old days of wishing we made the playoffs.

Compare the past 7 years of Bills football to the previous 17.  At least we've had a chance! We've had a very entertaining team we can be proud of.  

 

The Bills under McDermott have fielded a competitive squad every year under his guidance. They've developed mid-round players into valuable contributors. Free agents want to come to Buffalo. He has the respect of those who play under him. We have a team that should be competitive every year.

 

I'm grateful that the revolving door of Jauron, Mularkey, Williams, Ryan, etc. is a distant memory.  

Be thankful that we have someone a classy as McDermott leading our Bills today and for the foreseeable future. 

You may not realize it yet, but these are the good old days

There are some who believe that 31 coaches a year should be fired.  If you don't win the championship, you're out.

[Don Otreply]

No! 
 

hasn’t been relevant in quite some time, talk about a retread hire…, 

[Fan in Chicago]

Way to hijack this thread @Governor! 

The OP intended to discuss hiring Rivera and you totally derailed the thread. Save your rants till after this upcoming game. 

[NewEra]

Very unlikely imo

[JGMcD2]

He’ll end up in a Senior Defensive Assistant role. 
 

Bobby Babich or Eric Washington will be DC, but in title only. 

[Governor]

6 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Way to hijack this thread @Governor! 

The OP intended to discuss hiring Rivera and you totally derailed the thread. Save your rants till after this upcoming game. 

I was attacked by the paid McD apologists. I have to defend myself. 

[Charles Romes]

McD can’t refrain from meddling on the defensive side when there is a DC and you can’t have more than one cook in the kitchen. 

Edited January 18 by Charles Romes

[nucci]

Just now, Charles Romes said:

McD can’t refrain from meddling on the defensive side and you can’t have more than one cook in the kitchen. 

he's not meddling. He coaches the defense

[Buffalo03]

52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Similarly the Marty comparison.... McDermott in 6 playoff seasons already has as many wins as Marty had in 13. The better comparison IMO is Bill Cowher. He made the playoffs his first 6 years (McD 6 of 7), was 1 and done the first two years (so was McD) but then was winning playoff games without winning the big one (I know they made and lost a Superbowl in there). 

 

That is not me saying he is bound to win one in the end like Cowher did, and Cowher didn't have Josh Allen, I get that. But in terms of coaches who it feels can't get over the playoff hump McDermott is much more comparable to Cowher than to Marty or Marv. 

I also hate the Marty Schottenheimer comparison. The guy was 5-18 in 23 playoff games. It's not even a comparison. Some people speak without thinking sometimes and don't realize how off base they are

[RyanC883]

53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Similarly the Marty comparison.... McDermott in 6 playoff seasons already has as many wins as Marty had in 13. The better comparison IMO is Bill Cowher. He made the playoffs his first 6 years (McD 6 of 7), was 1 and done the first two years (so was McD) but then was winning playoff games without winning the big one (I know they made and lost a Superbowl in there). 

 

That is not me saying he is bound to win one in the end like Cowher did, and Cowher didn't have Josh Allen, I get that. But in terms of coaches who it feels can't get over the playoff hump McDermott is much more comparable to Cowher than to Marty or Marv. 

 

If McD can’t win with Allen the best comp may be 90‘s Dolphins?   Can’t win despite elite QB.  

[mikemac2001]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The only way he was getting fired here this year is if, from 6-6, the team quit on him and collapsed down the stretch. If we'd finished 6-11 instead of 11-6 and it looked like he had lost the locker room then all bets would have been off. But that didn't happen. 

Exactly if anything it showed the opposite of the hit piece and the team plays hard for him 

[RyanC883]

not sure what we need Ron for?  McD has been great as DC.  And  Babbich should be next in line for DC after his work with the LBs. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Hate to see them lose Bobby Babatch because they hired RR as a DC, but we still may be a few years away from that happening. 
 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

Right but the season isn’t over. Let’s just say that something bad happens, the unthinkable happens, do you think anyone is going to remember the previous 6 wins? Do you think that after a career crushing loss, people will view that as the team rallying to their coach?

 

I think as fans we should be mentally prepared for all possible outcomes. This would be #4. I mean, he’s already done it 3 out of 3 times. The following day people would be calling him Marv 2.0 for Christ’s sake.

Well yea if the unthinkable happens maybe…problem is I can’t think of what the unthinkable could possibly be at this point lol..  the last chance the ‘fire McDermott’ crowd had was us getting stomped by pit imo 

 

dolphins blew a 14 point lead against Tennessee with time winding down en route to coughing up the division then got absolutely spanked by this same kc team and they’re rolling with their mcd lol. I’d say that’s a lot closer to unthinkable than whatever happens to us 

Edited January 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[mikemac2001]

3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

not sure what we need Ron for?  McD has been great as DC.  And  Babbich should be next in line for DC after his work with the LBs. 

he can be an assistant if he wants and help coach doesn’t mean he has to call plays 

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

If McD can’t win with Allen the best comp may be 90‘s Dolphins?   Can’t win despite elite QB.  

 

Yea possibly though that was multiple coaches after Shula wasn't it? Before my time.

 

[BillsfaninChicago]

Let’s consider the 37 points we put on his team at Fed Recked Stadium his job interview. 

[Fan in Chicago]

33 minutes ago, Governor said:

I was attacked by the paid McD apologists. I have to defend myself. 

I am not falling for your bait. You brought up the discussion about McD staying on as HC. 

[boater]

OP started this as a thread as Ron Rivera Bills DC?

 

It devolved into Is McDermott Safe?.

 

Back to the original topic:

• McDermott was Rivera's underling at the Panthers. Would both of them be comfortable flipping the table?
• Rivera is still a viable Head Coach and there are many opportunities open.
• McDermott has definite opinions on how a defense works; will Rivera be compatible with that?
• Is Rivera will to move to snow country? Or tax country? (I'm serious, Bflo loses many prospects to this)

PS: McDermott should be and will be safe no matter what happens against the Chiefs. Firing talk is just silly talk.

[thronethinker]

5 hours ago, Governor said:

McD isn’t really safe yet. He has to beat KC at home or all hell is gonna break loose.

0 chance McD gets fired unless there is just some major mixup that is 100% on the coach and costs the Bills the playoffs. With all the coaching vacancies the last thing that is going to happen is him getting fired after advancing to at least the divisional round 4 straight years.