Malazan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Now when they give Dak that extension... we should never hear "We Dem Boys" again Quote
Doc Brown Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I'm not a fan of the guy but his Cowboys trolling is elite. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 4 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: This is kind of like if we bring McD back if we lose to the Chiefs again It’s like bringing mcd back if we got demolished by the Steelers 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 6 hours ago, stuvian said: Jerry's last stand Jerry's keeping McCarthy because McC does the dancing. Fire him, and he'll have to dance like the clown from Miami (Ross) does. Quote
Dan Darragh Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Too bad, Belichick at the Cowboys would have been a perfect storm of things I hate. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 7 hours ago, QCity said: Yes Men like McCarthy don't grow on trees you know. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted January 18 Posted January 18 To me this is great news. It means the Cowgirls will keep blowing it in the big games. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 18 Posted January 18 8 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: It amazes me the crap some coaches get. McCarthy is far from Vince Lombardi, but I think he's shown he can win in two different organizations. He's gotten a higher winning percentage out of Dak Prescott than Jason Garrett did, and he's won the NFC East both years fragile Dak was able to play full or close to full seasons. He has the same win percentage and same number of Super Bowl wins as Sean Payton and for some reason he gets a let less slack. Only 11 coaches in the league (yes there are vacancies) have better win percentages than McCarthy. Again, I dont think he is great but I also dont think he is half as bad as people make him out to be. The Rodgers stuff, and the sheep like nature of people's opinions have really done this guy in. Somehow someone like Robert Saleh has a better reputation than McCarthy. The real problem with Dallas is they are a constant hype machine, that isnt elite at the QB position. McCarthy is decent but he cant overcome Dak's shortcomings. So I kind of agree and kind of don't. I think Mike McCarthy is clearly a capable football coach. But he has been lucky IMO to work with two excellent personnel departments in Green Bay and Dallas. He did get good numbers out of Dak this year and good play for the most part. But at the same time Dak is a good Quarterback and he is surrounded by some very good talent. They have two future HOFers on the offensive line. They have Micah Parsons. They have Demarcus Lawrence. They have CeeDee Lamb. Their record against winning teams is really not acceptable. And that isn't just a this year issue, it has been an issue the entirety of McCarthy's reign. I think ultimately the reason for that he is the Head Coach version of Ken Dorsey. His mantra on both sides of the ball is keep it simple, let guys execute. When they have better players, they out execute their opponents. When they don't they lose. The Cowboys are the most vanilla team in the league on both sides of the ball to my eye. Though it should be said vs Green Bay it wasn't McCarthy's side of the ball that really failed them. The defense collapsed. That said, I kind of feel like 2024 is a now or never year for Dallas in any event. So not sure starting over with a new coach for next year makes a ton of sense. If they fall flat in the post season again in 2024 then I think they fire McCarthy and blow up the roster. I definitely think they are like the Bills in one sense - they desperately need to try and find a more legitimate #2 receiver. Cooks without speed is useless, Gallup is just not consistent enough and for some reason the one guy who I think does flash - Jalen Tolbert - they don't seem to trust. Oh and on defense they either need Mazi Smith to turn things around or they need to bolster the DT and MLB spots. They are way too soft in the middle. 1 2 Quote
DCofNC Posted January 18 Posted January 18 12 hours ago, BlazinBill said: It's actually not - it's 1 of the most misused "definitions" https://www.salon.com/2013/08/06/the_definition_of_insanity_is_the_most_overused_cliche_of_all_time/ I knew that; however, the definition of insanity is thinking Mike McCarthy is going to ever get you over the jump. Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 were both Harbaugh and Bellicheck unavailable? Jones must be toxic to attracting a good coach. That playoff implosion. That team was not ready to play. 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So I kind of agree and kind of don't. I think Mike McCarthy is clearly a capable football coach. But he has been lucky IMO to work with two excellent personnel departments in Green Bay and Dallas. He did get good numbers out of Dak this year and good play for the most part. But at the same time Dak is a good Quarterback and he is surrounded by some very good talent. They have two future HOFers on the offensive line. They have Micah Parsons. They have Demarcus Lawrence. They have CeeDee Lamb. Their record against winning teams is really not acceptable. And that isn't just a this year issue, it has been an issue the entirety of McCarthy's reign. I think ultimately the reason for that he is the Head Coach version of Ken Dorsey. His mantra on both sides of the ball is keep it simple, let guys execute. When they have better players, they out execute their opponents. When they don't they lose. The Cowboys are the most vanilla team in the league on both sides of the ball to my eye. Though it should be said vs Green Bay it wasn't McCarthy's side of the ball that really failed them. The defense collapsed. That said, I kind of feel like 2024 is a now or never year for Dallas in any event. So not sure starting over with a new coach for next year makes a ton of sense. If they fall flat in the post season again in 2024 then I think they fire McCarthy and blow up the roster. I definitely think they are like the Bills in one sense - they desperately need to try and find a more legitimate #2 receiver. Cooks without speed is useless, Gallup is just not consistent enough and for some reason the one guy who I think does flash - Jalen Tolbert - they don't seem to trust. Oh and on defense they either need Mazi Smith to turn things around or they need to bolster the DT and MLB spots. They are way too soft in the middle. do you feel they kind of missed a shot at Harbaugh this year? I thought for sure they would be in on that. ? Quote
RiotAct Posted January 18 Posted January 18 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I'm not a fan of the guy but his Cowboys trolling is elite. lol, that is basically the perfect response to that news. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Listening to Jerry talk after the playoff loss, this is a big surprise. Quote
eball Posted January 18 Posted January 18 13 hours ago, QCity said: Yes Men like McCarthy don't grow on trees you know. That’s because no tree could support that kind of weight Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 18 Posted January 18 23 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: do you feel they kind of missed a shot at Harbaugh this year? I thought for sure they would be in on that. ? Possibly. But I think he is going to be looking for Herbert or a place where he gets to handpick his own QB. Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Jerry likes maintaining control more than winning when it counts. Quote
FilthyBeast Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I'm not shocked by this, if anything because I think the problems in Dallas run much deeper than coaching and the spotlight should be more on Prescott and the defense failures right now. Quote
Mister Defense Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Hmm, surprising... Maybe now Jones will fire the real culprit, the main reason the girls have not even been a contender since their last SB win--himself. Been so obvious to me for years, and more so each year. True of how he builds his team and just as relevant is the way he conducts himself in the media and to his players. He will never win a SB again, as long as he is the GM and also continues his undermining of his team with almost every public statement. His post game talk this week to the team was just more of the same, stressing 'this is the Cowboys and we win". He is like an awful parent who just keeps digging his heels in, despite his obviously misguided actions and words, causing the poor kid to get worse and worse. No, no you don't win, Jerry, almost never winning a meaningful game against a good team--and speeches like that are the root cause in my view... The girls will thankfully continue to be a non factor, a punch line, until he turns the reigns over to a non-family member. But that may not happen. Edited January 18 by Mister Defense Quote
BlazinBill Posted January 18 Posted January 18 8 hours ago, DCofNC said: I knew that; however, the definition of insanity is thinking Mike McCarthy is going to ever get you over the jump. Won't dispute that at all 1 Quote
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