"Late" hit on Allen's slide.

[wagon127]

The 4th quarter unnecessary roughness penalty on the Steeelers.

 

Look, im glad the bills won, and any penalty the Bills get in their favor, I feel is great, after 17 years of us seeing other teams benefit from bad calls. But the NFL needs to really evaluate whats considered a late hit on a QB slide. I really dont think he was hit late on that. I think as Allen starts to slide, the defender has pretty much already left his feet. Allen is still sliding as he gets hit, showing how "not late" it was. 

 

What do you guys think? Not just thinking about it from the Bills point of view, but football in general. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

I think we have taken it in the ***repeatedly by refs and bad calls.

 

One goes our way, GREAT!

[Logic]

Just now, wagon127 said:

The 4th quarter unnecessary roughness penalty on the Steeelers.

 

Look, im glad the bills won, and any penalty the Bills get in their favor, I feel is great, after 17 years of us seeing other teams benefit from bad calls. But the NFL needs to really evaluate whats considered a late hit on a QB slide. I really dont think he was hit late on that. I think as Allen starts to slide, the defender has pretty much already left his feet. Allen is still sliding as he gets hit, showing how "not late" it was. 

 

What do you guys think? Not just thinking about it from the Bills point of view, but football in general. 

I think that the NFL has decided that they're going to protect quarterbacks at all costs, and it results in all sorts of ticky-tack, namby pamby, horsecrap calls that are offensive to the viewer. I think that star quarterbacks ESPECIALLY benefit from this treatment.

I agree with what you say, but as long as you always keep in mind what I just said, you'll have an easier time understanding/accepting the ridiculous calls that get made on a weekly basis.

[GoBills808]

Don't whine about bad calls so don't have to feel bad about fortunate ones is how I like to live

[K D]

Josh made it look worse than it was. At some point the refs will know that he flops like LeBron and to be on the lookout for that so then those calls won't go our way. I think he could have saved it on that play

[dje85]

Looked blatantly late to me. Defender hadn't left his feet. "pretty much" is not has. He could've jumped over or at least tried to avoid contact and he didn't try at all. If he even attempted to avoid at all he would likely of not gotten the penalty.  

Edited January 16 by dje85

[Charles Romes]

From one of the angles it looked like he took a pretty good shot to the head into the turf.  Does Allen get the calls?  Yes he does.  Superstars usually do.  Am I apologizing?  No. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

I’d agree with the overall point but that was a pretty clear slide that the Steelers committed on late so idk if that play was the best example.  If the defender recognizes the slide and tries to pull up a little bit but still hits the guy im all for not calling it.  The big problem is if you end up hitting a sliding qb you’re usually drilling him in the head 

[djp14150]

You realize there is another thread on this?

[strive_for_five_guy]

He was late.  Josh had slid way before Jack dove at him.  Josh just happened to embellish the hit to make it look worse.  

[Low Positive]

What about the RtP on Ed Oliver where Mason Rudolph didn't even fall down?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

It is what it is.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Look, I want to separate a few things here:

 

• One is my opinion on QB slides. I think they are overly enforced and tilt the favor further to the offense that doesn't need any more tilting.
• Two is "is that penalty accurate as called?" In my mind, yes. Allen began his slide, was fully on the ground and stopped. At that moment the play is dead. I know Allen sometimes sells the call a bit, but in Rules as Written, it's the correct call. 
  • You can think it's a "soft call", or lament the loss of smashmouth football and I'll be there with you. But those are the kind of calls that we would get against us all the time, so it's not like it's something new.
• Finally: if you think Allen did a "fake slide" on his TD run I need the contact information of your dealer stat, but request that you not watch Bills games while you are high out of your  mind.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

10 minutes ago, wagon127 said:

The 4th quarter unnecessary roughness penalty on the Steeelers.

 

Look, im glad the bills won, and any penalty the Bills get in their favor, I feel is great, after 17 years of us seeing other teams benefit from bad calls. But the NFL needs to really evaluate whats considered a late hit on a QB slide. I really dont think he was hit late on that. I think as Allen starts to slide, the defender has pretty much already left his feet. Allen is still sliding as he gets hit, showing how "not late" it was. 

 

What do you guys think? Not just thinking about it from the Bills point of view, but football in general. 

Agreed. There should be some “good faith defense” in that situation. The refs should huddle And use their common sense as to whether there was an intent to let up, and how severe the hit is. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

What about the RtP on Ed Oliver where Mason Rudolph didn't even fall down?

to be fair, that was over a helmet to helmet. I don't like it, but the refs were at least consistent in being overly protective.

[UKBillFan]

Nantz and Romo were immediately call it a late hit, and Romo said Jack could have avoided it as he didn't leave his feet until Josh started sliding. Good enough for me.

[Spiderweb]

15 minutes ago, wagon127 said:

The 4th quarter unnecessary roughness penalty on the Steeelers.

 

Look, im glad the bills won, and any penalty the Bills get in their favor, I feel is great, after 17 years of us seeing other teams benefit from bad calls. But the NFL needs to really evaluate whats considered a late hit on a QB slide. I really dont think he was hit late on that. I think as Allen starts to slide, the defender has pretty much already left his feet. Allen is still sliding as he gets hit, showing how "not late" it was. 

 

What do you guys think? Not just thinking about it from the Bills point of view, but football in general. 

Late hit....

[eball]

10 minutes ago, dje85 said:

Looked blatantly late to me. Defender hadn't left his feet.

 

This.  Before Jack left his feet Josh was into his slide.  It was a pretty easy call.

 

And yes, Josh does "flop" for unnecessary roughness penalties; I cringe when he does it but he also probably doesn't get calls other QBs do because he is such a freaking beast.

 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Defender didn't leave his feet until after Josh started to slide. Even more obvious on the replay, as pointed out by Romo. It was the right call. (I have seen less called this year).

[BattlinBill]

I look at it as making up for the beating Diggs kept taking that no calls were made on...don't see you complaining about that? Rode him like a damn horse 🐎