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Should Presidents have absolute immunity for life?  

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  1. 1. Should Presidents have absolute immunity for life?

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Posted
5 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

I really would encourage you to read the report where it discusses what evidence they actually have that they can bring to court and why it would ultimately be unsuccessful.

 

Oh, that's right: because he's senile...

Posted
52 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Oh, that's right: because he's senile...


I cannot help those who are unwilling to help themselves.
 

Either you cannot read or you are being intentionally ignorant. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

I cannot help those who are unwilling to help themselves.
 

Either you cannot read or you are being intentionally ignorant. 

 

Says the guy who still believes that Joke didn't know he had classified material all over his house.  Or more likely you're hiding behind the "you can't prove it" because you know he's guilty but still have to put up the charade that what he did is no better than Trump, if not worse because he wasn't President and showed it to people unqualified to see it.

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There's nothing in the Constitution, and no federal statute that could even be considered for this. It's really ridiculous ANY court even took the case.  No standing whatsoever.  Now, this is what was said in the Appeals court:

Judge Florence Pan asked Sauer whether immunity would cover a sitting president who orders the assassination of a political opponent. Sauer responded that prosecution could only start after a successful impeachment conviction

 

Again, where does his idea that you have to have an impeachment conviction first come from?  His butthole???  If he meant that you can't prosecute a sitting president(which imo is bs), then fine.  Is Trump president right now??  No, so what's the holdup?  

Posted
1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Says the guy who still believes that Joke didn't know he had classified material all over his house.  Or more likely you're hiding behind the "you can't prove it" because you know he's guilty but still have to put up the charade that what he did is no better than Trump, if not worse because he wasn't President and showed it to people unqualified to see it.


I’ve said what I continue to say: the reason Biden, Hillary, and Pence were not prosecuted is because their cases differ significantly from Trump’s and would almost certainly lose in court. 
 

I’m sorry that reality doesn’t match your narrative but that’s just how it works sometimes. 
 

But to bring it back to the topic of the thread, if Trump is right about presidential election immunity, then Biden can’t be prosecuted anyway even if he decides to just start selling our secrets, so long as the Dems don’t vote to impeach him. 

Posted (edited)
18 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

I’ve said what I continue to say: the reason Biden, Hillary, and Pence were not prosecuted is because their cases differ significantly from Trump’s and would almost certainly lose in court. 
 

I’m sorry that reality doesn’t match your narrative but that’s just how it works sometimes. 
 

But to bring it back to the topic of the thread, if Trump is right about presidential election immunity, then Biden can’t be prosecuted anyway even if he decides to just start selling our secrets, so long as the Dems don’t vote to impeach him. 

 

I've said numerous times I'm not asking for prosecution for what Joke did because they all take classified material.  And after that devastating  (and incomplete since he didn't hold the ghostwriter's feet to the fire like he should have) Gye report, I'm not even calling for impeachment anymore, which the Repubs could easily justify.  But "he didn't know he had it" was a bull#### excuse from the beginning and even more so after the Hur report.  If you want to continue to believe it (because your psyche won't allow you to believe Joke is as much of a criminal, if not more, than Trump), that says more about you than anything else.

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On 2/29/2024 at 3:43 PM, billsfan_34 said:

I am not saying your wrong. What I wrestle with is that Presidents, who make 1000’s of executive decisions during their time in office, would be very hesitant if they thought every move could be construed as criminal. I almost guarantee every President on both sides, to date, has “bended the laws” to keep us safe or what they thought was in the best interest of our country. It’s a very slippery slope indeed and could set a precedence that leaves all of us vulnerable.

 

You have much more faith in them than i do i believe that the majority of the decisions they make are to move their agenda's forward & that comes before anything is for the people .

 

Most of the things they talk about in the Lame stream media are talking points that make people think they really are looking out for us but the things that worry me are the things that are in the bill that they are not talking or telling us about .

 

Politicians in general for the most part are lawyers schooled in exactly how to twist words in the law to make it hard for even some of the most educated know exactly what the true interpretation of those words really are .

 

IMHO if the politicians were really caring about the country & it's people they would have never done away with the gold standard so they could just print as much money as they want, not have kept the country in wars, & never had put the Federal Reserve act into place so that the gov't it self has to pay interest on what use to be the gov't's money but because of that act we or should i say the federal government is now $34 TRILLION in debt to the federal reserve .

 

And all the BS ing in the US gov't will never make that go away it will just continually grow to a point to where 1 day the US will have to default on all of it & the country will be bankrupt which in truth it already is ...

 

And it is all thanks to the politicians that we the people voted into place .

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Posted

 

 

Should Presidents have absolute immunity for life?

 

The problem here is with the word "absolute"

 

Presidents should be protected from lawsuits and prosecution for carrying out their own policies while in office.

 

Common sense.

 

 

But not from breaking actual laws.

 

 

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Posted
45 minutes ago, B-Man said:

But not from breaking actual laws.


But that’s what he did and why he was arrested multiple times.

 

Meanwhile

 

 

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