thenorthremembers Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Would much rather vote for the right to be unhealthy than to vote for a government that mandates my choices. 1 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 26 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Would much rather vote for the right to be unhealthy than to vote for a government that mandates my choices. Agree. But that wasn't the goal of the thread. It was to imply red states are bad. But in reality posted the states with the highest minority populations are bad. It's racist narrative only ended up showing how racist it is ... 1 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Food deserts that lead to few options other than the standard american diet (sad diet) is what drives poor health outcomes. Like everything else in commie run urban areas the problem is only getting worse.
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 13 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I would argue that educated make fewer bad decisions. I’m in NM with 100 similar people to me. Do they push the adrenaline rush too far? Yup. But they mostly make rational decisions. And guess what? They’re almost all incredibly healthy for their age I hear your argument. I'm extremely healthy compared to my peers while not doing anything special to watch my health other than not smoking or drinking. In addition, no need for any medications. I'd argue there's a significant genetic component to good health as past generations of my family on both sides have with few exceptions lived into their 90's. I think there's always cost and benefit issues when it comes to pooled risk arrangements like health insurance. Some people pay and rarely use it while others are frequent visitors to doctors and hospitals. Personal behavior certainly contributes. But what vices to discourage through payment penalties, like smoking, is subject to many considerations.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Posted January 20 55 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I hear your argument. I'm extremely healthy compared to my peers while not doing anything special to watch my health other than not smoking or drinking. In addition, no need for any medications. I'd argue there's a significant genetic component to good health as past generations of my family on both sides have with few exceptions lived into their 90's. I think there's always cost and benefit issues when it comes to pooled risk arrangements like health insurance. Some people pay and rarely use it while others are frequent visitors to doctors and hospitals. Personal behavior certainly contributes. But what vices to discourage through payment penalties, like smoking, is subject to many considerations. And a great many of the sick takers r MAGAs while many of the givers r decent human beings
Tenhigh Posted January 21 Posted January 21 23 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: And a great many of the sick takers r MAGAs while many of the givers r decent human beings A great many of takers are poor people, regardless of their politics. This is mostly because they are poor in the first place. Please don't be the scumbag tries to tie politics to health care usage. And a great many givers are people that aren't poor and aren't democrats, so stop your idiocy. 1
US Egg Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Maybe Mr. Ketchup is thinking of how to help the op’s target group in his thread. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) Just now, Tenhigh said: And a great many givers are people that aren't poor and aren't democrats Which party complains that they pay more taxes? I believe there's a link in this thread showing a vast percentage difference in this regard. so you are incorrect. by takers, i mean the lazy robbers who are getting disability falsely or could easily work rather than living off food stamps, medicaid etc. I presumed we were in agreement in resenting those people. are we not? from a pragmatic viewpoint it's cheaper to pay off even the scumbags than to deal with civil unrest, non? There are certainly very poor and disabled thru no fault of their own. I support a safety net for them as do more D's than R's nationally. Edited January 21 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Tiberius Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Maybe Mr. Ketchup is thinking of how to help the op’s target group in his thread. No way, even more lies from the idiots that can't win elections with the truth or lies? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/06/06/john-kerry-proposed-farming-innovation-at-climate-summit-fact-check/70288331007/ Quote In his speech at the AIM for Climate Summit, Kerry said the agriculture industry should focus on innovation to combat climate change. He never suggested farmers should stop growing food. 1
US Egg Posted January 21 Posted January 21 More hypocrisy from Mr. Heinz Kerry https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230607-10-billion-global-population-unsustainable-us-climate-envoy-kerry-1 "I think you can have a better lifestyle, and you can eat better food “….. ….like this “better food” his wife’s company floods the world with? https://www.eatthis.com/kraft-heinz-worlds-worst-food-company/ “A recent analysis from the global health group World Action on Salt, Sugar & Health (WASSH) looked at five global food producers and found that Kraft Heinz had the highest proportion of "unhealthy" food and drink items” “WASSH found that 82% of the Kraft Heinz products it analyzed would be classified as "unhealthy" under government-endorsed standards.” The ever vigil Democrat Kerry is adding to the obesity issue worldwide, not just the Republicans the op mocked. 1
Tenhigh Posted January 21 Posted January 21 4 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Which party complains that they pay more taxes? I believe there's a link in this thread showing a vast percentage difference in this regard. so you are incorrect. by takers, i mean the lazy robbers who are getting disability falsely or could easily work rather than living off food stamps, medicaid etc. I presumed we were in agreement in resenting those people. are we not? from a pragmatic viewpoint it's cheaper to pay off even the scumbags than to deal with civil unrest, non? There are certainly very poor and disabled thru no fault of their own. I support a safety net for them as do more D's than R's nationally. I think you'd be surprised how many Rs are happy to support people who truly can't help themselves, they just resent the myriad of wasteful D policies that incent people not to work. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Just now, Tenhigh said: I think you'd be surprised how many Rs are happy to support people who truly can't help themselves, they just resent the myriad of wasteful D policies that incent people not to work. do you realize that in the near future there will be many less jobs, especially working class jobs? you want the uneducated to starve? 1
Tenhigh Posted January 22 Posted January 22 17 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: do you realize that in the near future there will be many less jobs, especially working class jobs? you want the uneducated to starve? Actually, the jobs that will be automated will likely include yours and mine. Who needs surgeons when a computer can do it far better? There is certainly going to be a shift of how work is done, who does it and when. But what that looks like is greatly up in the air. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 17 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: do you realize that in the near future there will be many less jobs, especially working class jobs? you want the uneducated to starve? AI aint doing manual work. It's going to hit white collar, Banking, entertainment, Engineering, R&D across the spectrum. hard. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) Just now, Tenhigh said: Actually, the jobs that will be automated will likely include yours and mine. Who needs surgeons when a computer can do it far better? There is certainly going to be a shift of how work is done, who does it and when. But what that looks like is greatly up in the air. to an extent. it's still garbage in, garbage out to a degree. you still need experts to input algorithms and templates based on current science. even that could eventuallydissappear. despite calladummys statement, it will be much easier to build robots that dig ditches and empty garbage dumpsters. (he's sooooo stupid). Some form of universal income will soon be necessary to avoid civil unrest....btw, universities will adapt and change curriculum to fill need. There's no organized training equivalent for grunt work. And bankers, tommy tomato? They are the masters of the universe as illustrated in the 2008 bailout. they'll take good care of themselves and have the power to. Edited January 22 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Tiberius Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 On 1/20/2024 at 7:58 AM, thenorthremembers said: Would much rather vote for the right to be unhealthy than to vote for a government that mandates my choices. Me too, but those that are intelligent enough to make good health decisions pick better leaders 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: input algorithms and templates based on current science Thats exactly the kind of thing AI will perfect and won't have the defect of humans. Remember the old "Better learn to code" AI will code at speeds of 100 programmers and won't need a break. Humans make mistakes, from banking to accounting and even things like practicing medicine. Last I knew my garbage truck has a big arm that does all the work. Ditches been being dug my machines for a long time. Eff. if your into REVCOM.US or the US communist party, you believe politicians can and should be replaces by AI.
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